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Groups leading the charge for free market healthcare

Posted by BrettRocketSci 7 years, 5 months ago to Business
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In my quest to find objectivist-leaning companies and business owners with whom to trade with, my highest priority now is healthcare providers. For anyone paying attention (which ought to be everyone here), you know the medical industry in the US is headed dangerously towards a complete government takeover with socialized medicine as a fundamental "right."

There are a lot of doctors and healthcare providers who are unhappy (or worse) about this. It's very hard for me to understand how and why they have let things go this far down the road to serfdom... but here we are my friends.

In my search for regional or local capitalist medical providers, I have found some national groups that are promoting this approach. Here's the list.

When you see who is here, please ask yourself these questions:
Do you recognize any of them as having efforts in your area?
Do you have any experience or knowledge with a group that you can share?

Some of these groups organize on a chapter level. I'm investigating options and tradeoffs to determine which group(s) would be best to engage and propose for action in my Sacramento CA region. (Being the capital for the People's State of California, it's a target-rich landscape and a trend-setter for the rest of the country.)

If you happen to know anyone near me who might want to learn about future happenings and efforts, I'd greatly appreciate a referral or introduction. A coalition or network is forming. I have some doctors and med students eager to save their careers and independent judgment (and future wealth). Thanks, Brett

Free Market Medical Association (FMMA)
https://fmma.org/providers/

Association of American Physicians and Surgeons.
This group has a broad and inclusive name like the AMA (Amer Medical Association) but their materials and efforts are refreshingly pro-liberty.
https://aapsonline.org/

Docs 4 Patient Care Foundation
https://d4pcfoundation.org/

They have a member who has created this:
Manual for starting up a DPC practice:
https://dpcmanual.com/

Benjamin Rush Institute
https://www.benjaminrushinstitute.org/

Finally, here is a doctor office in Wichita KS who I've been told about as an objectivist-principled practice. He put Atlas in his name so he must be serious about it. ;-)
Atlas MD - Josh Umbehr, MD
https://atlas.md/wichita/about-us/our...

If anyone has more suggestions I'll be grateful to learn about them. But please keep it focused on groups who are focused on IMPLEMENTING free market healthcare NOW at the STATE or LOCAL level, Not publishing white papers and lobbying in DC. Or tackling a lot of other issues besides heatlhcare. I am laser focused and need a group aligned with my goals (and values).


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  • Posted by ewv 7 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes the trial lawyers' lobby is part of the increase in medical care and the intimidation of doctors. Maybe laws allowing for malpractice claims against lawyers, corralling them into a huddled mass in a corporation and forced to memorize and recite lawyer jokes, would help solve the lawyer problem -- except that lawyers would have to sue themselves to make it work.
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 5 months ago
    Really good medicine isnt covered by socialized medicine. Even Mayo Clinic is not taking new medicare and medical patients, which is too bad because they have given me really good care I can attest to in my personal experience.

    Some primary care docs are going with concierge plans where you pay like $1500 a year to have access to one, in addition to the payments made by medicare.
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You can get A1C kits that are accurate and work at home directly from amazon.com and other places. No need to pay doctors to write lab slips and go through multiple co-pays. As I remember the last time I bought them it was like $30 for a 2-pack, and they were very easy to use.

    You can also order other lab tests from LEF.org. You pay them, and they write you a lab slip that you use at a local blood drawing place of your choice. The results get mailed to you for your records.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 7 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The other major part of this (according to doctors I have spoken with) is the high costs of medical malpractice insurance (especially for OB/GYN's). As a result, most are being forced into working for larger health centers and hospital programs which then control how they practice medicine. The healthcare centers assume the liability (and staff lawyers to shield them) but pay lower than market wages in return. Our regional system has been taken over by two major healthcare systems and truly independent doctors are now almost nowhere to be found.
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  • Posted by ewv 7 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Government standards on entering the medical profession are not why some doctors go along with unlimited control. That is not a root cause.
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  • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 7 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Of course the doctors are going to go along with government control -- their entire profession is protected by laws against practicing medicine without a license, and limiting who can prescribe drugs.

    My insurance company and I spend hundreds of dollars a year for my doctor to treat my type II diabetes. He regularly checks my glucose, A1c, and weighs me -- then tells me to lose a little weight. All of these factors have been constant for a decade -- I measure them myself (except the A1c which I could). But I need this to maintain my $4 prescription for Metformin.

    We could do a lot with software, but everything has to carefully avoid the hint of "practicing medicine".
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  • Posted by wiggys 7 years, 5 months ago
    I highly recommend that you read the 1985 essay by Leonard Peikoff "Medicine death of a profession". it was also a discussion he gave at the ford hall forum. once read you will understand why nothing is going to change the governments movement towards socialized medicine. the government is the root cause of not only medicines death but the death of business in the usa in general as well.
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  • Posted by 7 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thanks for this alternative! I think I had heard about them once but forgot. Not an attractive option for devout athiests like myself, but I like the innovation and chutzpah! This is worth considering in a regional strategy.
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  • Posted by 7 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You got my interest. Investigated by the IRS if a vindictive competitor files a bogus report on them, I could imagine. I don't know all the possibilities but it seems like a risk that is very low and manageable, given the upside. So can you please educate me & others more, without revealing more than you need to? Thanks.
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  • Posted by ewv 7 years, 5 months ago
    The tendency of doctors to be willing to go along with more government control seems to be due to a combination of not knowing much about the history or ethics of it and being fed up with the current bureaucratic maze blamed on private insurance companies, leading them in desperation to try anything that promises to be simpler. Out of the pan and into the fire they go. Others are simply cutting back or retiring early out of accumulated frustration even though they don't understand it either.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 7 years, 5 months ago
    Yeah...I'm familiar with the fight. You realize that doctors who don't play ball with the establishment will get put on lists and investigated, right? I wouldn't believe it myself until recently...
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 7 years, 5 months ago
    There are almost no providers within 250 miles of my area on FMMA.

    For an insurance-like product, you could check out the Alliance of Health Sharing Ministries. http://www.healthcaresharing.org/abou...
    Scroll down for three health sharing ministries.

    They qualify for legally avoiding the PPACA penalty according to the IRS website. They are much more market-oriented than PPACA-compliant plans. Technically they're not insurance. They're Christians helping one another with their medical bills. Even attending UU services counts as "Christian" since UU is an offshoot of Christianity.

    There is a lot not to like about them, BUT when you dig into the details and set aside the Christian language, it actually makes sense. Their basic plans are very inexpensive, and you legally avoid the PPACA penalty.
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  • Posted by 7 years, 5 months ago
    Forgot to emphasize - the link with FMMA that I provided is for a directory of doctors affiliated with them. Do a search to see if you have someone near you! They should be worth considering for your business if you can make that choice.
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