What Is So Special About The Human Brain? by Suzana Herculano Houzel
Posted by freedomforall 7 years, 5 months ago to Science
The human brain is puzzling -- it is curiously large given the size of our bodies, uses a tremendous amount of energy for its weight and has a bizarrely dense cerebral cortex. But: why? Neuroscientist Suzana Herculano-Houzel puts on her detective's cap and leads us through this mystery. By making "brain soup," she arrives at a startling conclusion.
"Let’s clarify a few things. Some ask about comparing the total number of neurons between various species. Rather than the total number, it’s the regional distributions of neurons that matters. For example, the author of this talk found that elephants have three times more neurons than humans (2014). But the elephant neocortex, the region for cognitive abilities, had 8 times fewer neurons than in humans. So far so good, but that’s until we examine dolphins and even parrots.
A 2014 study showed that dolphins (pilot whales) have 37.2 billion neurons in the neocortex, twice as many as in humans. Our idea of intelligence is further challenged with parrots, such as the macaw. About a month ago a study showed that macaws have more cortical neurons than many primates, such as the rhesus monkey.
As a neuroscientist, I think the quest for IQ needs to be resolved within our own species first. If we compared Einstein’s brain to the average brain, it’s unlikely that we would discover a much larger number of cortical neurons. It’s more likely that intelligence stems from the way that neurons are connected to each other and which specific areas of the cortex are more developed.
I admire Suzana’s work because not only did she rigorously demonstrate the number of neurons in the human brain, but also proved that the number of glia is not three times more than the number of neurons (it’s ~50:50). Many scientists and even textbooks still use the old information and are teaching it to students.
By way, I agree with posters who point out the lack of evidence that cooking is the reason for our large brains. I don’t know a lot about nutrition, but this hypothesis has already been tested by the large number of people on raw food diets. I’m pretty sure they don’t have to eat more than 9 hours a day to survive. Farming might come into play here… Nevertheless, the cooking hypothesis was not what the author tested and it does not take away from her ingenious work with neurons".
From the comment section Beck Khekoyan.
I think there are a couple of leaps in there that aren't particularly well-founded however. The first is that just because you create brain soup to measure the sheer number of neurons doesn't measure overall cognitive ability. Many animals devote significant neural capacity to sensory organs (especially olfactory and auditory) which in comparison outclass human abilities (sharks and dogs come to mind). Thus I think that a far better comparison would be to build upon the work she has done but to individually divide the brains for comparison into functional areas prior to liquefaction and comparison.
I also echo the comments regarding simply cooking one's food, and would instead prefer a far more rigorous dietary examination. A cow has five stomachs to aid in the digestion of plant materials and is far more efficient at such tasks than humans, where that fiber simply passes through us. Primates are not vegetarian with specialized stomachs, so a diet heavy in plant fibers is going to be necessarily inefficient. Take koalas for example, who spend nearly their entire days eating eucalyptus leaves. A primate that subsists primarily upon proteins, however - especially animal proteins - can be much more efficient.
I applaud her for her initial work, but suggest that she draws several conclusions which we will find do not follow from the abundant evidence.
In all seriousness, one can affect the neural pathways in the brain by the choice of the decisions one makes. And this isn't necessarily purely chemical interactions such as psychotropic drugs or alcohol. Psychological studies have been done demonstrating that kids who watched "Sponge Bob Squarepants" had decreased IQ's. Others studies have shown that engaging one's brain in intellectual activities such as Sudoku on a daily basis strengthens and encourages synapse response - especially in the elderly.
To be completely fair to progressives and other leftists, I think they have the same number of neurons, they just don't exercise them. Thinking is actual hard work as you encourage the brain to create the neural pathways which then facilitate critical thinking. Mindsets are as much literal and physical in the brain as they are mental constructs. Habits form in the brain as well-used mental pathways, which is why it is so important to form positive ones. I believe that the vast majority of leftists have never gotten in the habit of real, critical thinking and that this is one of the reasons why they react so violently when confronted with it. It is in actuality a response to an alien condition to their brains which must be consciously overridden (in the form of humility) so as to allow their brains to begin building the alternate pathways necessary to cognitively deal with these thoughts.
Man, (Humans) can not live by brain alone anymore in complex times like they did in simple pagan bicameral times where all that cooked/raw, food and neurons were dedicated to dealing with the stresses of survival.
Today, one's survival depends upon the mind otherwise those reliant on only their brain must "Take" what they need or perceive they need, to survive.
However, we have an enormous growing population of obese people, is that so they can get smarter by consuming more food?
Just watch the news...you'll know to whom we speak.
Laughing...psssst...we're not primates either, but don't tell anyone...
(our makers must curse the day they used that clay)
I think about this presentation on occasion when I am cooking. Good to start a discussion over a meal with friends.
Another recently discovered error in the thinking about the brain is the idea that all brains are mapped the same way. Corvids (crow and raven family) carry out reasoning processes in a much more efficient manner than humans, given the size of their brains and number of neurons, so that presents another conundrum to be resolved.
Recently, some neurologists have determined that there may be extra-material elements to human consciousness, in the form of a low energy electromagnetic field that allows communication among brain components more rapidly than theoretically possible given the limitations of a 250 mph chemical reaction-driven neurological network. Some have misinterpreted this to mean they may have discovered a human "aura" or even the soul, but the energy level of this field makes it very difficult to detect outside of the human skull. It may even briefly survive the brain death point, but is highly unlikely to represent a non-corporeal element that can survive beyond the end of a physical body's existence.
But does anyone here have any idea of the origin of the conscious mind?
And I hold that they all have their basis in the false premise that anyone can duplicate the programming of the human brain, and produce not only machine intelligence but machine reason. Such an entity would of necessity have the right of citizenship in the country of its creation, and have the right to change citizenship, even to hire transport if necessary. Now imagine such a creature building enough tele-operators to design its own next generation. That second-generation machine would then be a natural born citizen within the meaning of Emmerich de Vattel's Law of Nations. (That could even apply to the first generation, if you grant to the creators of that system the title of "parent.")
HAL for President? Colossus for President? SkyNet for President? (Well, that's a little different; SkyNet was a power-mad and mass-murdering military insurrectionist.) "Data" for President?
Are you sure...?
As to being president, look at what we got with in the past. Were they intellectually consistent and freedom preserving? Some were mass murderers and others control freaks. A fully functional android is a long way off, but maybe an android neighbor wouldn’t attack me while I was mowing my lawn...
Actually I left out one other television show that would be relevant to this debate: Battlestar Galactica. Your rational machine would be a Cylon. And if you recall, the Cylons began a war of extermination against the "organics" that made them.
What would a machine have in common with a flesh-and-blood human being--i.e., an organic?
If--a mighty big "if"--we figured out how a human brain works and duplicated it, it would then have knowledge poured into it as an operating system, a database, and various programs to access that database. Trial-and-error learning would be a supplement at best. It would "grow up" knowing it was different.
I don't know which would be worse--a machine brain in and as a mainframe, or a machine brain in a humanoid body. The latter would be different, and to be different is to be damned. The former would have no sense of identification whatsoever with other rational beings. It would not even have any inherent reason to accept human beings as rational.
The disembodied brain might, like SkyNet, make war against all of humanity. Or it might, like Colossus, decide it cannot let us run around loose, and would thus establish a dictatorship of the machine brain.
And the brain in the humanoid body might, Cylon-like, consider itself a slave, and revolt. And a slave race in revolt would settle for nothing less than the total extinction of the master race. As we see today with the movement now calling itself "Black Lives Matter."
We have enough trouble with human beings playing the group-identity game. We ought not build for ourselves a mountain of trouble we never can climb, by creating a machine brain, or a company of machine brains, who, conscious of their differences with us, would be inclined more toward war than peace.
All the above assumes a machine brain is even possible. I maintain it is _im_possible. And rejoice therefore.
Think of it this way- a biological brain as in a human is a "physical object", so it is possible to duplicate it. If it was made once, it can be made again is how I would put it. It is not some ethereal spiritual or mystical thing. It seems to be self contained so it doesnt derive its power from some mystical source deep in the galaxy.
Assuming that one could duplicate the connections and "operating system" (read that as "instincts"), the real key to its operation would be in the learning that it absorbed from the sensors that were available to it.
Obviously, that means that one could put in erroneous data and warp it and turn it into a hitler brain. Connect it to some way of actually performing some actions, and LOOK OUT.
Personally I dont have a problem with "racism" so long as it accurately reflects the differences in the the entity being identified. Its way too overused today. A white dude eating vanilla ice cream could be called a racist.
A humanoid with a perfectly crafted super brain that was "spock-like" might actually BE a super race. Fortunately, we are a LONG way from developing such a brain. There are bigger fish to fry at present.
I would say that it possible for humans to develop robots to the point where they are actually better at dealing with things than WE are and leaving humans in an interesting position. We would have to up our game to compete in the world I suppose, just as we need to now relative to the chinese (who are kicking our asses currently)
But a truly self-aware machine would be no robot. It would go beyond programming and would not be content.
But I am working on a science-fiction story about a "man" who actually is a human brain/eyes/ears/nasal tract/spinal cord transplanted into a mechanical body, discovering that an "organic" woman with whom he had a one-night stand now exists as a disembodied brain within a mainframe, whose builders intended that she run the computer system for an Orwellian surveillance state! When she "runs him to ground," he reaches out to her through his electronic interfaces--and convinces her that she's been had, in a viciously ugly form. Then let the surveillance state watch out!
I liked the movie. I think called ex machina as I remember.
That's not exactly my premise. My premise is that someone transplanted a brain--and eyes, ears (inner ears at least), the olfactory nerve and its chemoceptor array, and the brain stem (or maybe the whole central nervous system) into a robot body. Then someone else transplanted a central nervous system into an enclosure that would serve solely as an interface to a mainframe. The first "patient" was someone who had been in a ground-transport accident (or was it an accident?); the second had died in the line of duty on a deep-space mission. The first person--after his transplant--knew the second when she was an ordinary "organic" woman. Finding her personality embedded in the central mainframe and having the task of running him to earth would be a shock to both.
I suspect that in future years engineers will be able to create an artificial brain as they uncover the operational secrets of the human brain. Then the task will be to match the brain power we have in the size of our biological brains. It’s a shame I think that we die eventually and lose the history contained in our brains. Maybe we should spend more time on anti-aging than duplicating whats already operational
Once conscious...meaning one has gained a mind, That mind is the main source of insight, views of self and behavioral control...at that point, the inner voice is that of the mind, or the voice of self.
My work involves the connections from the brain, to the mind and the quantum field.
I suggest that it is not necessarily the number of neurons or the weight of their communal mass, but what is fed into them from experience and acquired rules of existence. The neurons are just the hardware. Let's put on the detective's cap and explore the mystery of the software.
It’s exciting to think how our lives could be improved by carefully substituting AI for human intelligence in a lot of areas. People do a lot of stupid things because they don’t think. At least the robot kiosk would listen to me the first time when I tell it what i want at Burger King. A self driving car won’t drink and drive, or get distracted by screaming children or a cell phone call. Food for thought. I go for the fast food kiosks NOW- a no brained.
Self driving car that decides I am less important than the people in the car that is about to crash into me, no, never. Not going to trust my life to a programmer with a bias against the individual in that situation. That is exactly what the insurance companies (and federal government looking to reduce their retirement cost) will get the car makers to do. Your identity will be known, your medical condition, the fact that you are receiving social security and the younger person in the other vehicle is paying taxes for another 20 years. Doesn't matter that you paid taxes for 50 years and paid to put that other driver through college with your tax payments.
I live in las vegas, and the drivers here are crazy- instant changes in lanes, last minute decisions to go right instead of left, and other stupid things that a rational person would not do. No wonder Nevada went for Hillary...
Studies of the brain show us chemicals associated with sound and light, so it's not to far fetched to derive the source of voices and pictures being created in the brain. In animals, sounds of other animals and pictures of strong events are used to learn, adapt and survive.
I read somewhere that the inventor of the microphone used this chemical or mineral to transmit and amplify sound. The process in the brain is most probably electrochemical...did a quick search and could not find the source of that article...it was a very long time ago.
Using your "Picture Mind" is a good thing.
The cooking and brain-cost connection is important but it doesn't explain the driving force in evolution. The driver must be an advantage to the larger brain, and that cannot be simply survival (hunting etc) otherwise it would be more common in other animals. My studies lead me to conclude that the driver is our storytelling ability. That is the uniquely human brain function which has been exaggerated over time due to mate selection. Storytelling has nothing to do with survival, and most traits which are not survival-based tend to become over-developed (eg. bright bird plumage)
Despite our physical differences, our brain is the only thing that really differentiates us. And brains are all the same color.