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We Live in an Era of Mass Delusion

Posted by $ Olduglycarl 7 years, 8 months ago to Philosophy
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We've discussed this, we've read about it, we've been warned; but, boy...does this hit home.

“If one can isolate the mass, allow no free thinking, no free exchange, no outside corrective, and can hypnotize the group daily with noises, with press and radio and television, with fear and pseudo-enthusiasms, any delusion can be instilled. People will begin to accept the most primitive and inappropriate acts.”

"The only way we can give man the strength to withstand mental infection is through giving him the utmost freedom in the exchange of ideas."

Lately it seems, I owe my sanity to all of you at the Gulch...Thank you


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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Correct and most of that problem came from left leaning cronyism, coercion, and regulations. They should have pointed out the problem honestly, made suggestions and let the free market solve the problem.

    But the key factor here is that environment has no effect upon climate cycles, the upper atmosphere nor short term weather.
    what happens in the troposphere generally stays in the troposphere.

    Putting all or most of the temperature reporting stations in the hottest spots in the cities only proves that cities are a problem but when it's all averaged out, we have had no effect upon earth other than polluting the water and the troposphere.
    Polluting the water is directly related to bureaucratic environ[mental]ism using fluoride, too much chlorine and other chemicals that kill the good stuff in the water and doing nothing to the really bad stuff.

    See: http://suspicious0bservers.org and ADAPT2030-youtube for a more accurate/honest view of what's goin on.
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  • Posted by maxxal22 7 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I am not too sure about global warming myself, it could be, it couldn't. I can't tell from the data, as this sort of thing is a long term process and the data collection hasn't started that long ago
    What i do believe in is trying to find more environment-friendly ways of doing things like industry, regardless of climate change. I was in the Hong Kong area one day when the smog was rather bad (wind came blowing from the mainland). I know that that can't be good for your health, especially areas that are worse off like Beijing and a lot of cities in India
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That's funny. He rightfully knows the left will freak and burn down everything...creating more carbon!..laughing.
    But it's hard to believe a conservative would except the warming nonsense without relying upon his own observations, maybe he's under the delusional spell.

    I asked a warming carbon counter the other day what happens to green plant life in the winter or extended colder climates and he rightfully said, it goes dormant. I said correct, so what do you suppose happens to all that carbon that is usually used by those plants during the day time....and he looked at me strangely...then sheepishly replied...Oh yea, never thought of that.
    He is the only one so far that got it first try. Then I told him to look up Grand Solar Minimums and the Maunder Minimum.
    We will see where he lands.
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Great commentary and understanding of the left, marxism and their lack of awareness and integration
    One that has a strong connection to the mind can not be controlled. One might be fooled temporarily but conscious introspection will always win out.
    They can only influence and control those that have a weak connection to the mind or none at all...after 100 years of "information noise" there are many, maybe even 50% that have no connection to the mind. Just brains in a body reflecting the image of those in control.
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 7 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The problem is that "left"and "right" are not defined in terms of essentials. It is why some libertarians say that they are "socially liberal and fiscally conservative." So, yes, the broad "left' and "right" share some delusions. The left is afraid of global warming, as we know. The right wing analog is an "economic" (or perhaps political) millennium in the style of Atlas Shrugged that devolves down to the myth of Anthem.. A friend of mine who is a global warmer - and nonetheless extremely intelligent - said that even when he can get a conservative to accept the facts of global warming, their response is to want more guns and a hideout in the mountains.

    In Kim Stanley Robinson's 2312 NYC is five floors under water, but civilization as we know and love it continues from the 6th floor on up...
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  • Posted by rbroberg 7 years, 8 months ago
    The Left know they are unable to control others' introspection. There is no such device currently in existence which can direct the internal attention of a mind. (Is such a device even possible?) Yet, the theory of Marxism understands that reality is related to consciousness. Marxism further treats consciousness as a byproduct of reality. Where Marxism misses the mark is when it treats consciousness as non-axiomatic.

    So Marxism correctly understands physical reality and consciousness are related and further understands existence has primacy over consciousness. But can it also extend to claim that control over physical reality enables more extensive control over consciousness? That depends on whether it does or does not believe in non-initiation-of-the-use-of-physical-force. An explanation follows:

    What Leftism fails to recognize is the axiomaticity of consciousness. While it succeeds in some degree of control, i.e. control over media, industries, healthcare, banking, etc., the Left does not understand that human beings with the power of consciousness, introspection, and independence also have the power to come to opposite conclusions. That is, it does not see alternatives to its own dogma and, as such, is stagnant. The danger of the Left is its refusal to acknowledge Stalinism and thought policing as an essential product of Marxism. Instead, it sees its own authoritarianism as contingent on the eschewing of capitalism. This is why vocal opposition to Marxism and Leftism is critical. The Marxist Left simply cannot extend the claim that control over physical reality enables control over consciousness while there is any understanding that man cannot initiate the use of physical force against others.

    The principle of not initiating the use of physical force really is the pillar of our society. It is also what distinguishes garden-variety Socialists from hardcore Communists, the latter of whom believe in violent revolution. Thus, the affirmation and optimism really relies on the fact that even certain brands of communism believe in non-violent socialist revolution. The Marxists do not understand that non-violence undercuts the essential method of Leftist propaganda and thought-control.
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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 7 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You made my point. Government involvement at all is part of the problem.

    But if you don't think Doctors are being marketed to... Hang out in your doctors office for an entire day. I have friends who used to be Drug Reps. I have also had to wait 4+hrs in a waiting room to be squeezed in... I Can tell you first hand that there are a LOT of people marketing to the doctors. Taking them to dinner, and encouraging them to prescribe certain drugs, and "share" with them the benefits of opiods, and other drugs while glossing over (or not mentioning) the side-effects.

    BTW, one of the reasons I DESPISE a mandate for health insurance is simply because I would NEVER FOLLOW a doctors advice for MANY ailments. While they are great for Dx (description), I do not trust the Rx (prescription) because of the money and dishonesty...

    For example, when they say: 50% reduction in heart attacks, and only 10% risk of diabetes. In a 2,000 person study, that is 100 more people getting diabetes, and only a reduction of 1 or 2 people in getting a heart attack. Why, exactly, in a HEAVILY CONTROLLED world are they allowed to report the numbers in such a misleading way? (because they bought the law writers).
    The MOST important #s to me: How many people benefit PER 100 (0.1% in the above example) for those taking the medicine. So, you find out, you are 100 times more likely to have a nasty side-effect, than to feel the positive effect of a drug. Seems like THAT would drive our decisions better. And yet it is basically WITHHELD.
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  • Posted by $ jdg 7 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I don't buy a word of it. The state has no business making doctors afraid to take a pain patient's word and give him the relief he needs. Drugs are largely not marketed at all, so to say they are being marketed deceptively doesn't pass the giggle test.

    The real problem here is the law requiring a doctor's approval for drugs. Obeying your doctor's advice should be voluntary. They work for you, you don't have any duty to obey them.
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I just reacted to the intense disapproval of him by the leftists, so I decided to get his book and read it. I agree with you that he is a free thinker and I am impressed. I would go to see him talk. The left HATES him because he speaks the truth, in my humble opinion
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 7 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Can people really make you believe certain fallacies? From Galt's speech--"If you permit it to be done to you, you deserve it."
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You must remember, Intellectuals have nothing more that compartmentalize information assimilated into the brain, not much different than pouring a liquid into a glass.

    Now, if one "Stirs" all that information around in the glass...Wala! you have integration and that's where the "Smarts" comes from.

    So, as one might deduce, Academics and political intellectuals have not a spoon between them.
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  • Posted by jimjamesjames 7 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Having been in academia for years ( 11 years to get my BA in Econ, 3 years to get my Masters in Ed, 3 years to get my Ph.D. in Education -- total time for all, 25 years), I noticed a long time ago there was a mild antipathy for my work history: copper mining in Australia, construction truck driving, oil field truck driving and I don't know if it was envy or jealousy because the academics had done nothing in their lives but academics, very few had had a "real" job. Part of their arrogance came, IMHO, from recognizing that they were deficient in real world experiences and , thus, tried to elevate their status, in their minds, by being assholes.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thanks trejim.

    It's disconcerting to realize that businessmen, generals, soldiers, men of action are less corrupted by power than intellectuals... You take a conventional man of action, and he's satisfied if you obey. But not the intellectual. He doesn't want you just to obey. He wants you to get down on your knees and praise the one who makes you love what you hate and hate what you love. In other words, whenever the intellectuals are in power, there's soul-raping going on.
    Eric Hoffer will be on the book list.
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Here is an oldie but baddy on the War on the human mind. Hint, one's only defense so far is "Awareness".
    https://ssi.armywarcollege.edu/pubs/p...

    Solntsev also examined the problem of "information noise," which creates a dense shield between a person and external reality. This noise may manifest itself in the form of signals, messages, images, or other items of information. The main target of this noise would be the consciousness of a person or a group of people. Behavior modification could be one objective of information noise; another could be to upset an individual's mental capacity to such an extent as to prevent reaction to any stimulus. Solntsev concludes that all levels of a person's psyche (subconscious, conscious, and "superconscious") are potential targets for destabilization.

    According to Solntsev, one computer virus capable of affecting a person's psyche is Russian Virus 666. It manifests itself in every 25th frame of a visual display, where it produces a combination of colors that allegedly put computer operators into a trance. The subconscious perception of the new pattern eventually results in arrhythmia of the heart. Other Russian computer specialists, not just Solntsev, talk openly about this "25th frame effect" and its ability to subtly manage a computer user's perceptions. The purpose of this technique is to inject a thought into the viewer's subconscious. It may remind some of the subliminal advertising controversy in the United States in the late 1950s.
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  • Posted by maxxal22 7 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Milo is always portrayed like some fool who "can't really believe what he is saying", whilst in reality he is quite a free thinker
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  • Posted by Herb7734 7 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Every new truth, it seems, had to be fought for in order to be accepted. But be happy that the teeny minority of inventors and scientists persevered to bring us to a place where innovation is not only expected, but looked forward to. One of the things to watch is when new ideas get frowned upon. We accept new science, but we have a problem. It is now moving so fast that it is outstripping our ability to keep up with it. Moderation and sane use of science is diminishing and people stare at iPhones like zombies. Now there's a topic to explore.
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  • Posted by mccannon01 7 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "I get no glee in saying that. Sad state of affairs." Truly well said. I am a strong believer that a free press is necessary to maintain a free republic. But what happens when the press is corrupted? Even worse, willingly self-corrupted.
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    A clear sign the loss of mind...and that has been the point since the beginning of time. They must curse the day they used that clay...
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