Trump did...why can't I??? Laughing...

I actually enjoy "Leave it to Beaver", although I wish the mom was smarter. Remember they even had "finishing schools" in the day for girls. Watching soe old movie, our daughter then about 7, said she did not want to "be finished."
My husband and I bot worked, I took time out to stay home with the daughter, then I went back to work when she was a teen.I am glad I did stay home and was able to catch the nonsense the public schools were feeding in place of academics. She loves "Beaver" to this day, which were then in reruns. Too many of her friend had families which did not eat together, did not talk at the table (cell phones) and did not share things from the past, like music, literature, movies. To this day, my husband and I kiss when one of us leaves the house, we talk over what each of us wants to do and plan eating out around it.It is just common mutual appreciation. I do not pick up what he piles on the floor of his office, I did not pick up after the kid once she knew better. The kid is grown, but the dog has to settle down or go in his crate at dinner. Nobody has "a place" in the pecking order, but we each have our own computer rooms, mine filled with books and his with sports-related and accounting books. I think there was a mutual respect back in the day, which is not a bad thing for today. Put the cell phones away, you are not that important!

I would love to put her out in the woods far from anyone to try and control and see how long she lasts...

you can forget about winning a presidential race !!

Yes, and that is how we got Soro, working for Hitler as a teen, and loving it! Now he is a depraved old fart. Mao took them as babies, which is now what we see in cradle to grave child care in our society.

Most southern girls know these things already. I had an employee that helped me keep things rolling with my family, when my 4 kids were little. It was nice to keep things in order, when I did not have time. But when my ER doc husband came home from his 24 hour shifts, we were all respectful of his need to regroup, eat and rest.
Just mutual respect from a spouse that worked only day shifts.

Yep...and that's exactly what "Pocahontas" wants to do...

Grrrr?...please share and explain...you have a few minutes left in this counseling session...teasing.

You are so right...daycare has become a right and that's just silly, the children lose out and that's a concern.

Knowing one's place...good one, we have that problem with this round of dogs, ( we breed Maltese) but they also are beloved pets.

They complain and carry on when we leave, when they think someone is coming and mostly when we come home. It all seems to stem from a lack of pecking order, something our first beloved group seemed to have down pat.

Not sure how we are going to fix that. But it does relate to nature and it's really not that different with human families either.

I think that statement would send the left right through the roof.

That's very much what the 5 tips were all about but I dare say...I like your version and sentiments better.

Thank you.

Grrrrr.

Jan

And that is exactly the point...good job.

the nazis did that actually. Took the kids and raised them as nazis

Aside from content, I think the point was, How do you feel? We see the puppy ads, the poor children ads and we react to our emotions. The next time I get in a policy discussion, rather than rely on facts, I need to get to a persons emotion to win them over.

Spot on Term2.

" Zoos take the babies and care for them independently as they share them with other zoos."

Laughing, but seriously...it sounds exactly like what big government wants to do with us...

From a woman's point of view, these ideas are proven to give a good life if the husband loves his wife.

In nature, it is the mother that raises the cubs, teaches them how to hunt and sends them out into the world. Zoos take the babies and care for them independently as they share them with other zoos.

I think Rand would agree with them. There is a lot of value for value, and acceptance of what needs to be done to make the family work and agreement to just do it and not complain. For what its worth, raising kids is a pain in the ass when they are young and "needy". I would much rather dig ditches than stay at home and listen to the kids' demands (legitimate though they may be). Anyone who can do that has my appreciation for sure.

I think it made a better home life though. Both parties really shared in the home life. The man made the money, and the woman kept up the home and children (it didnt really make sense for her to work really due to the low wages and lack of opportunity). Now its more 50-50 in terms of being able to provide funds and deal with the other requirements of running the house.

Here are my five (REAL) tips:

1) Greet each other with a kiss, hug, and loving look when you get home. This is far more important than hair or makeup (you've seen each other right after waking up after all!). Taking 30 seconds to enjoy a little physical contact can do much to ease the strain of the day.

2) You've both had long hard days. So sit down and enjoy a good home-cooked meal (you can't fake the secret ingredient of love) and talk over everything. Listen to your spouse - both the good and the bad. Most of the time (looking at husbands especially), your wife just wants a sympathetic ear. Then do the dishes together. (Men) You might be surprised just how romantic this gesture can be. ;)

3) "Five minute" clean-up time. This is for the children right before dinner. They get assigned some area to clean up and it has to be done before they are allowed to get up to the table. This must be a routine every day. There's no reason why those most responsible for making the messes shouldn't have to help clean them up. Even small children can help by picking up toys or emptying the dishwasher. (This also combats the entitlement mentality so prevalent in today's youth.)

4) Divide and conquer. Traditional roles and responsibilities aren't out-of-date, they're common-sense division of duties. Men take out the trash and mow the lawn and women do the laundry because it is the most efficient. Agree on who is going to be the primary for the major tasks then adjust as circumstances demand - including hiring a temp if someone gets sick.

5) Say thank you for even small things. It's a gesture not only of politeness, but recognition of what the other has done for you.


And as a bonus:

6) Learn how to say "you may be right". Arguments and disagreements will happen. This simple phrase can bring the tone of the argument back down to rational discussion by acknowledging the other person's assertions without unconditionally caving. It opens up the conversation by emphasizing that you are honestly listening and trying to see things from the other's point of view (as long as you aren't faking it) without dismissing your own opinions.

(This last one was given to me by a marriage psychologist whom my mother-in-law paid for me and my then-fiance to attend prior to our marriage. It has been an invaluable source of wisdom and marital harmony in my 20 years of marriage.)

Actually, if you remove the word "wife" and replace it by "mate" or "living companion", its not bad advice at all.

Back in those days, the women typically didnt work, so they were in charge of the home and the children while the men brought home the bacon. So both the husband and wife "worked" really, and after dinner both could relax with the children.

Nowadays, both husband and wife work, so they both prepare dinner (if they know how....). Not sure what happens with the children people seem to 'want' during the day, but they are probably farmed out to a "daycare" place.

I do think that everyone should know their "place" in terms of how to treat other people, something that is TOTALLY lost today. Just look at the way drivers act on the roads to see that. Courtesy is gone.

As long as she gets or observes, (value reflection), appreciation and recognition, there shouldn't be a problem.

I disagree with all sacrificing, one might choose to forgo one thing or another but on the whole, one must take care of self first...otherwise, you can be of no help to others.

Listened to a lecture on "selflessness" and as observed, most that perform selflessly are miserable and kind of arrogant in thinking; "only THEY can solve a problem"...we must have a balance between celfishness and a chosen cause to engage.

However, Rand might agree with a good portion of these tips... Voluntary Value for Value exchange.

I am from the" Beaver" era but I don't see a wife adhering to these rules very long. A mistress, however, will in the hopes of becoming a wife and not having to do it any more.