Those in the cities, whom can't live "green" blame those that live the "Green" life in the country.

Posted by $ Olduglycarl 6 years, 5 months ago to Culture
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Below is the crux of the article. It's just another among many examples of leftest hippocracy and ignorance.

" it’s not at all possible to live very “green” in the city, and while you can do a lot to reduce your carbon footprint like driving a hybrid vehicle, eating organic foods and using organic products"/..."much of what makes city life unsustainable — such as power generation — is out of your control, the burning of fossil fuels and widespread waste."

“A city has to import its energy, import its water, import its food, and it exports waste — raw sewage,” he said. And that doesn’t even include emissions of all kinds and “excess heat,"
"living in the country is that life there is sustainable: You can drill a well for water, grow a lot of your own foods (without GMOs or pesticides), set up your own power grid via solar or wind and create compost that you can use to keep soil fertile."

"odd: Many of those who advocate for “green lifestyles” are usually progressive and liberal, but actually do live in cities rather than living the life they prescribe for others". “They live in the most unsustainable, non-green environment possible,” he said, like concrete apartment buildings “in the middle of an artificial construct known as a city.”

"Meanwhile, the people who really are living green “are derided as ‘rednecks’ and ‘country people’” with low IQs, “which is completely false,” Adams said, adding that he would take his rural lifestyle and its true sustainability over that of any city-dweller who only advocates for it."

Who among us haven't noticed this. The article is so dead on, I found it difficult to add anything, but it's a discussion that should be had.
SOURCE URL: https://newstarget.com/2017-10-21-the-top-10-benefits-of-living-in-the-country-2.html


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  • Posted by chad 6 years, 5 months ago
    The ability to live the 'green lifestyle' is actually enhanced by burning carbon fuels and the use of electric power and all the things that environmentalists complain about. The use of GMO's which has been done for thousands of years but with a much slower process of tinkering with cross pollinating one vegetable with another until you get the desired results is a slower method of creating a new product than what can be done now by using genetic coding. Could a mistake be made that wouldn't be beneficial? Yes. Same for the slow method of tinkering with genetics. Try living on a farm and eliminate all the items that were created by increasing 'the carbon footprint'. You would have to eliminate almost every tool that is there. Do humans consume more power than ever before? Yes! No! Per person consumption is less. Overall consumption is up. Try powering up for your electrical needs by eliminating everything that was created by the carbon footprint to make solar and wind power available in forms that are still so inefficient that they must be subsidized by other taxpayers (increasing the carbon footprint by going to work) to bring the price down to a point where it makes economic sense to purchase those power producers.
    One part is correct, most of the 'greenies' would have everyone else live in a manner that they would not accept. Reminds me of the inquiry many years ago of the head of the Sierra Club about why he lived far outside of town and commuted every day in a large 4 wheel drive SUV to work in the city. I will paraphrase his reply; "Because he wanted to live in the country where it was peaceful and need to work in the city and his commuting sometimes carried him through difficult weather conditions so he had to have the four wheel drive to get to his very important work of saving the planet from all those people who drove 4 wheel drives for fun and were just burning up fuel without a justifiable return on their behavior!"
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    • Posted by $ 6 years, 5 months ago
      Correct about increasing one's carbon foot print...it's great for green plant life. Just look at the trees in the cities, (the few they have)...they are beautiful.
      Modern day GMO's...NO! The old way of cross breeding gave nature a chance to except or reject. Modern Man's way of forcing it... does not!
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    • Posted by CircuitGuy 6 years, 5 months ago
      "The use of GMO's which has been done for thousands of years "
      Yes, and my understanding is there's no evidence GMOs are harmful any more than natural mutations.

      What should the Sierra Club director do? He could live in the city. But long term the only answer is to find a way to get people what they want without having to do this justifiable return calculation. I really think SUVs get demonized unfairly. If the owner just uses it a little less, that blows away the savings of a super-efficient car someone drives everywhere. And then there's heating, food, and other products people consume that aren't as obvious as a car. We need to find solutions and not try to be paragons of righteousness.
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      • Posted by chad 6 years, 5 months ago
        Agreed. We do need to find solutions and that is when the true genius and heroic man is at his best. The only reason I brought up the SUV's is because the Sierra Club slams them so much and yet the president makes excuses for his own personal use. In fact one reason car manufacturing went toward the large SUV's was because they could not produce cars that got the mileage required by the EPA so the manufacturers figured out that by putting a car on a truck frame they could get around the mileage requirement by defining it as a SUV in the truck range. This meant more people were driving larger vehicles than they might of been if more medium size cars with better mileage (but not as good as required by the EPA) had been available so in the end the EPA and their constituents created a market for larger gas guzzling cars.
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      • Posted by $ 6 years, 5 months ago
        Your last paragraph is spot on.

        We naturally disagree on your first statement, we've had these discussions...
        This is my understanding and I know how fruits and other plants were cross bread,..(my grandfather used to do it.)::from my comment to chad.

        Modern day GMO's...NO! The old way of cross breeding gave nature a chance to except or reject. Modern Man's way of forcing it... does
        not!..it's down right sneaky and it fools nature into a harmful and unnatural alliance.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 6 years, 5 months ago
    Why do progressives live in the city? Here are some ideas:

    1) Center of power. There is nothing more important to progressives than the accumulation of power.
    1a) People. People are more concentrated in a city, thus the ability to influence quantities of people is higher.
    1b) Money. Because more people are in cities, so are the sources of money. Money is power in another form.

    2) Proximity to nature. Progressives don't really want to be close to nature. They in fact abhor it. They live in cities to surround themselves with the works of their own hands: concrete, steel, asphalt, etc. They don't want to be reminded of the beauty and majesty of nature because it reminds them of something bigger than themselves.

    3) Friendliness. In rural areas, even though you may be separated by miles, you know and are known by your neighbors. You depend on them in emergencies because no one is closer - especially not fire departments or police. In the cities, you walk by hundreds if not thousands of people and don't even look at them. Go back a hundred years and people were much more pleasant and respectful - even congenial towards even those they had never met.

    4) Sunlight. It has been shown that exposure to sunlight is healthy not only for the skin but for the soul. People are happier and more pleasant when they get a daily dose of sunshine. Surrounded by tall buildings, many in large cities don't see hardly any sun.
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    • Posted by $ allosaur 6 years, 5 months ago
      Another reason progressives prefer city life is that's where other progressives are.
      The blue splotch of the Birmingham area that is my red state Alabama's major city is a good example.
      Me dino knew the local libs would swallow up my vote for Trump but I voted for him anyway.
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  • Posted by GaryL 6 years, 5 months ago
    My visiting neighbors from California are just who we are talking about. Vegan, Tree hugging and card carrying PITA members. They eat nothing that had a face, are against cutting down any trees and do not believe in the killing of any animals. I love poking them. He drives a BMW with wood trimmed dash and interior and leather seats and when he got on my case about going deer hunting I told him to wrap his leather belt around his neck to apologize to the animal that owned it first. Happy to say they are just visiting and will not be sending me a "Holiday Card".
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  • Posted by Flootus5 6 years, 5 months ago
    Interesting premises. But, as usual one must check the premises when there are contradictions. The premise that carbon is a pollutant has created such colossal contradictory absurdities and mind numbing cognitive dissonance, one wonders if there will ever be a way forward and back to sanity on a societal scale.
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 6 years, 5 months ago
    Living in the country to be green is a load of manure. I live in Arizona where the sun shines a lot, so I have solar panels on my roof, drive a Nissan Leaf back and forth to work 17 mile round trip (have a second ICE car) and heat my house with a wood burning during the winter. Now I'm researching ways to store power in case of blackouts which occurs every so often. Water in the city I live (12k residents) in come from underground aquifers which I run through a bank of filters. I plant trees even transplant some seedlings growing wild to my property. I'm not a progressive, I just believe I'm doing the right thing.
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    • Posted by $ 6 years, 5 months ago
      Not saying that people live in the country just to be green. We are saying that those in the country live more green than those in the city.
      If you live in a city and can do all that then you are in a city in name only due to your population. My home town is like that now but it still is a country town. Cities out east have no property available to do what with what you have. Each house is practically connected to others and the rest live on top of one another.

      Electric cars out here in CT are useless due to the distance we need to travel...not to mention, they are the ugliest things in existence...even uglier than Old Ugly Carl!..laughing
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  • Posted by Herb7734 6 years, 5 months ago
    The town I live in was fairly rural when I moved here 23 years ago. But people looked it over and said, "My, what a nice place to live." It is now moved up from a village to a town. Boo! But that's progress. All the cute little kids who came by in their cute costumes on Halloween are now in grad. school or working or married and we even had to look at them as they steered their way through filthy teenage-hood. That's the way it works you Greenies. It moves, and as it moves, it changes, and as it changes it goes from green to brown - sometimes. But if it doesn't change it goes black.
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  • Posted by dnr 6 years, 5 months ago
    And by-the-way organic products take considerably more energy to produce that non-organic, so they are not even eating right to conserve energy.
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    • Posted by $ 6 years, 5 months ago
      It cost's less to grow organic, basically all that need to be done, besides planting, is re-mineralization; done once a year and your pretty much good to go. The same amount of watering and harvesting. (re-mineralizing the soil pretty much takes care of the bugs and what weeds do grow do not harm anything...plus, your not poisoning the environment, or the little natural helpers).

      I did it myself this year and it worked exactly as I state.

      Growing hydroponically cost a little more because your using electricity but you could grow with fish and produce your electricity from the methane.

      Non Organic cost are higher with fertilizers, herbicides and pesticides; not to mention the increased health care cost from the lack of nutrition and poisons.
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