How any of them can say "climate change" without breaking up is a mystery. Climate has naturally changed since the beginning of time! People adapted to it, not tried to control it, like some little gods. The UN goal, promoted by Hillary when she was first lady, is to move everyone into inner city high rises without cars. Disaster striking outside that setting, more cause to promote the control they want. Then there are the morons who build on land prone to mudslides, the Calif. mentality. But making the fires hotter are the thousands of uncleaned forest floors, perfect fro spreading fires. We live with a woods behind us, and we clean it out, both for drainage control, and to make sure we control burn all the stuff that might be fodder for lightning strikes. It is just common sense, except for people who never took science in college, and think they can reapeat UN talking points as fact.

Well, it does NOT help when you constantly put out the SMALL forest fires.
Which, produces a ton of carbon, and which becomes plant food for new growth, but can stay stagnant during droughts, and come back to life when the rain comes again.

Nope. Don't let ANY of them burn. All trees now fight for less water, become dryer. And then when the fire hits. Nature does its thing. It kills off the weak.

But we can't TEACH that. The SIMPLE thought that WEAK should somehow die... OMG where is the Social Justice in that? Now. The strong must be killed, to make room for the week!

Literally, everything they touch.

PS: If Illegals were good for an economy, CA would be cutting taxes because they would have too much money!

Since when has the climate not been changing?
How about focusing on forest management at the urban-forest interface?

Actually, obliterating human development outside of big cities is exactly what the ecowackos want. And while nature is at it, the more humans die in the process, the better, since there are entirely too many of us (except for the ecowackos, of course). Maybe someone "helped" nature along?

Yes.
Big fires in California caused by 'climate change'.
The big fires are from big fuel buildup.
The fuel is from heavy rainfall in recent years causing increased tree growth.

'Forest fires are down 80%, but climate fraudsters want to push their scam, so
they announce that humans didn’t know how to count before 1960.'
“Modern record keeping began in 1960.”

The NYT report of 22million acres burnt can thus be ignored.
10million acres burnt in 2015 is therefore "a record".

Se this source for the NYT page October 9, 1938-

https://realclimatescience.com/2017/1...
invented-in-1960/

My neighbor is here from Oji Ca. for the entire summer rebuilding one of his homes. He says all these fires are a direct result of global climate change while he drinks his kool aide in massive doses. We are 180 degrees different and fortunately over 3,000 miles apart most of the time.

This thread is 6+days old but still alive.
Here is a good site to look at- strongly recommended.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/10/1...

The paper referenced is not so 'hot' being typical academia,
but the comments are very good. There is experience from all along the
US and Canadian west coast and Australia as well.

What I did not know before was that there is much eucalyptus on the west coast.
Eucalyptus is an Australian species with peculiar characteristics. At high temperature the
tree explodes spreading fire in all directions a good distance. The leaves that cover the
ground burn fast, the timber burns hot and long. All this is good for the environment!
The seeds need fire to germinate, the forest re-grows.

The native peoples knew what to do- they lit fires just after the winter rains,
this burnt off excess fuel and regenerated the forest at the same time. Any
fires that then started in summer could be locally dangerous but not disastrous.

When whitey arrived they learned from this. But now, the greens are against what
we call controlled burns. Governments submit and do not follow their own codes,
the result, in the heat of summer when fires cannot be stopped there are large scale
fire disasters, property damage and loss of life.

I was through Wolf Creek Pass a few weeks ago touring the local Steam Locomotive scenery and noticed that there are a significant amount of dead evergreens. Whole mountaintops were completely dead, while the rest of the forest was contained between 1/3 and 1/2 dead trees; probably due to pine beetles.
With mile after mile of dead trees, I increasingly thought that there was a lot of money just sitting there waiting to become a forest fire instead of being turned into products.

Ecology is sexy. If you seek approval, be ecology conscious. Warn of climate change, and see to it that strict laws are passed making sure that in every single case, the side that benefits the environment is supported.and wins out. Well sure, the contradictory laws and regulations may endanger your $900,000 to $2,000,000,000 home, but especially now in the dry season. What the hell, you can't complain. You'll be thought of as a (gulp!) conservative. If you ever meet George Clooney, what would you say to him.?

The climate has been changing for billions of years so obviously it will take lots more of other peoples money, time and resources to fix the problem. And leftists will not stop until the climate is unchanging.

We here in rural south Georgia have been control burning for decades. The only fire we every have to deal with is when the Okefenokee Swamp gets dry every 25 years or so, but that fire is healthy for the swamp. You get 5 years of leaves on the ground, and you are asking for a forest fire.

Those "six pack" low-density / zero lot-line subdivisions that the same global warming morons love, also went up like a single torch.

The real reason is there is far more forest acres than there were at the turn of the 20th century... we put the fires out now, so forests have grown much older, more dense, and substantially more dead or dying fuel on the floor of the forest than previous decades. The destruction of the timber industry in California hasn't helped either..

With some common sense defensive measures any home can easily be protected from the natural disasters prone to the area that they live in.

In the case of wild fire areas. No flammable materials within 20+ feet of the home (meaning no trees overhang the roof and shrubs kept in check), flame retardant exterior materials (meaning brick, block, adobe or metal), simple things but effective.

I know that with this being California my opening statement negates any possibility of them following the advice. With this in mind New Orleans wouldn't have even been there below sea level when Katrina came in.

The real purpose of government is the care and feeding of itself and its minions. Whatever happens with the citizens is just secondary. Think about it- how the congress people get rich over the years, while they vote for obamacare for us at the same time they enjoy their free excellent healthcare.

It's not nice to ignore mother nature and to not prepare for her cyclical return.

Look right off the bat the internal combustion engine caused Global warming . See : The First Production Automobiles (1893 – 1894). https://www.google.com/search?q=autom...
The Great Hinkley Fire . 1894 Coincidence just ask Al Gore.
Because of the dryness of the summer, fires were common in the woods, along railroad tracks and in logging camps where loggers would set fire to their slash to clean up the area before moving on. Some loggers, of course left their debris behind, giving any fire more fuel on which to grow. Saturday, September 1st, 1894 began as another oppressively hot day with fires surrounding the towns and two major fires that were burning about five miles (8 km) to the south. To add to the problem, the temperature inversion that day added to the heat, smoke and gases being held down by the huge layer of cool air above. The two fires managed to join together to make one large fire with flames that licked through the inversion finding the cool air above. That air came rushing down into the fires to create a vortex or tornado of flames which then began to move quickly and grew larger and larger turning into a fierce firestorm. The fire first destroyed the towns of Mission Creek and Brook Park before coming into the town of Hinckley. When it was over the Firestorm had completely destroyed six towns, and over 400 square miles (1,000 km2) lay black and smoldering. The firestorm was so devastating that it lasted only four hours but destroyed everything in its path.
The official death count was 418; the actual number of fatalities was likely higher.

I'd wager than eco-wacko's and their legislative muscle has more to do with these fires than climate change. By allowing the trees and underbrush to grow without being culled, when combined with drought, it was and is only a matter of time before a catastrophic fire happens.

So here we go, instead of giving up, and crying "Climate Change is here to kill us", these people got smart, and did what was needed to protect themselves. Result: They didn't burn. Now if Kalifornia can just do a state program (they love them) to educate the other 20 million or so, they will be fine....

http://fox40.com/2017/10/12/yuba-coun...