The Government Is Cracking Down on School Bake Sales - NationalJournal.com

Posted by LetsShrug 9 years, 9 months ago to Education
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I wonder how many students will become candy bar bootleggers inside the schools? An entrepreneurial eruption would be nice.


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  • Posted by Notperfect 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Exactly. The recipe came from the book I bought my wife at the Old City Tavern in Philly. 200 years of authentic American recipes. From Martha Washington's Chocolate Mousse Cake to Thomas Jefferson's Sweet Potato Biscuits. Visit them on the web at www.citytavern.com.
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  • Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hiraghm, thank you for your insight.

    first, I need to point out that you stated that self-denial
    and self-sacrifice for the greater good are mandatory.
    can we take this as "for the greater good of self"?

    if so, then you are consistent, in my view.

    I, too, had good parents. Dad was a stoic depression
    kid who loved the mountains. Mom was a southern
    belle from Atlanta. I learned self-discipline from both
    of them -- from dad, to be moral and make a living,
    and from mom, to be the perfect debutante escort
    and to conform.

    self-denial and self-sacrifice for my greater good
    led to a desire to be John Galt, since I first read AS
    when I was 18.

    I was whipped as a kid. I deserved it, because I was
    studiously testing the limits of mom and dad's parenting.

    I went to school, did well, got an air force scholarship
    and took my seat in chemistry whenever I got there.

    the big thing which I screwed up was marriage --
    I got married at 22. if she had wanted kids, we
    would probably still be married.

    but the self-discipline carried me through to a good
    engineering "career" and retirement. in the self-denial
    column, life compelled me to give up cigarettees and
    alcohol, but not motorcycles. the harley will power
    an O2 concentrator, if it comes to that. I imagine
    that it will.

    so here I sit, appreciating your testimonial....

    Thank You for your positive message! -- j

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  • Posted by Robbie53024 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Better to just say - "Made only with real sucrose." Since the proposed statement would be inaccurate.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes. It's very easy to overpay when you are spending someone else's money. Whether that is the gov't or a daughter with daddy's credit card. Tends to have a different effect when they have to pay off the credit cards themselves.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Um.. the voters voted in said politicians...so who's to blame exactly? And WHO Isn't stopping him? (I should really say, who's not stopping THEM, cuz he ain't working alone. ) Also, we need to go back to waaaaay before 2008.
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  • Posted by $ KahnQuest 9 years, 9 months ago
    I'd say it's a veiled attempt to shut down the entrepreneurial spirit. I avoid shopping on weekends like the plague, because everywhere I go there are a bunch of kids in football uniforms holding their helmets out for donations. I would much rather see a bake sale or a carwash (i.e. them offering something of value). These Looters are basically teaching kids that it's just easier to beg.

    On another note, I remember a friend in college who had the entrepreneurial spirit. He capitalized on the laziness of his fellow dorm-mates, who would pay double for candy bars, chips, and sodas... to avoid descending and climbing two flights of stairs to get them from a vending machine.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It is the left/right battle that threatens to control everything. It gives you the choice of gov't harassing you or supposedly only the other guy, not good people like you. It drives away the option of leaving you and the other guy alone.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 9 months ago
    Gov't paying for schools means this is a matter for public debate. Imagine if gov't didn't pay for schools or maybe just provided vouchers to be spent as people wanted. This would be a choice for families, not a public debate
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  • Posted by 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    We pay taxes... the schools belong to us, we get to say. Although the obvious solution is to pay for and bring your own lunch and snacks. If they start confiscating unhealthy lunches let the grand wake-up of parents begin. BUT alas I am fantasizing. Parents won't feed their own kids. Silly me.
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  • Posted by peterchunt 9 years, 9 months ago
    First the big gulp, then the mandated “food kids don’t eat” and now bake sales. Before you know it big government will mandate what you can eat in your own home. This is the agenda of the progressive left: control everything.
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  • Posted by Notperfect 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    1 batch makes about 3 doz. 5 cups all-purpose flour 1 cup packed light brown sugar 2 tablespoons baking powder 1 1/2 teaspoons ground cinnamon 1 teaspoon salt 1 teaspoon ground ginger 1/2 teaspoon allspice 1 cup vegetable shortening 2 cups cooked, mashed, and cooled sweet potato (about 2 large potatoes) 1 cup heavy cream 1/2 cup coarsely chopped pecans Preheat oven to 400 degrees F In a large mixing bowl, add the flour, brown sugar, baking powder, cinnamon, salt, ginger, allspice and stir to combine Add the shortening, and cut in with two knives until crumbly. Add the sweet potato, and mix well with a wooden spoon. Add the cream and pecans, and stir just until moistened. Turn the dough out onto a lightly floured surface. Roll out the dough to 1 1/2 inches thick. Cut out biscuits with a 2-inch floured biscuit cutter. Place the biscuits 1 inch apart on ungreased baking pans. Set the pans in the oven, reduce the oven temp. to 350 degrees, and bake for 25-30 minutes, or until golden brown. Serve warm or let cool on a wire rack to room temp. The biscuit dough freezes beautifully unbaked, layer it between wax paper and store for up to 3 months. Defrost and follow baking directions. It pays to make a double batch of these and freeze half for later. I have eaten as soon as they come from the oven with butter slathered all over. Need I say more!!!!!!! Try and let us know what happens.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Having observed life for half a century (having a vested interest and all), the one thing I've learned parents need to instill in their children is SELF discipline.

    it's a bit anti-Objectivist, but self-denial and self-sacrifice for the greater good is mandatory if you're going to be a success.

    Now, as LS and others rush to downcheck me, let me expound:

    self-discipline is the ability to deny oneself immediate gratification for long term well-being. This is NOT a natural, inbred ability, but a learned behavior. Perhaps one of the many things which separate us from the non-sapient animals.

    Every successful person I've ever known of has had varying degrees of self-discipline, in an almost 1:1 relationship to the degree of their success.

    It is not a coincidence that the long-time poor in this country are also failures and lack self-discpline. The ones with drug habits and ninety-leven children. Also the ones who've never done drugs and have nobody and nothing.

    "Nothing in the world can take the place of Persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'Press On' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race."
    Calvin Coolidge

    As much as I like and admire Coolidge... he's full of shit. Persistence and determination without self-discipline is just obsession. At the end of the fight you're left with nothing but exhaustion and confusion; and, if you care about winning to begin with, grief.

    Self-discipline makes you acquire the skills you're going to need to win. Self-discipline makes you do the work you have to do to win, rather than make excuses to do what interests you at the moment, or to wallow in self-pity because you just can't seem to get anything done... waaaah.

    And I speak as an absolute authority on the subject. I had wonderful parents, the best anyone could want; and I loathe people who blame their failure on their parents. I was their last-born, and was always little, and when I was a baby I got an ear infection that nearly killed me.
    This led them to become overprotective, I've concluded. I was unintentionally, psychologically discouraged from trying new things and taking chances, even amidst verbal mixed-messages telling me I can do anything I want.

    I became more aware of it after my father died; at one point I realized how often my mother said, "oh, if it's too hard, don't bother." or in a more worried voice, "Don't overdo it! Don't hurt yourself".

    This, combined with my father's knee-jerk opposition to authority, which led to no bed-times, no hygienic routines (tooth-brushing, bed-making, etc), no religious or after school commitments, no homework oversight, no vegetable eating before Reese's peanut butter cups, no mandatory attendance (in college I stopped going to a Chemistry lecture because one time I was late and was embarrassed to have 200 people stare at me as I walked in... a disciplined person would have rolled his ass out of bed earlier, instead). Instead I would go to a video game parlor named "Dark Star" and play Dragon's Lair at a dollar a pop until the lecture was over. And this is the first time I've ever even mentioned that to anyone....

    Once they're grown and have not developed the habits of self-discipline, it's too late. I know it seems like you should just be able to decide, "I'm going to be self-disciplined! This time for sure! I want this too badly to not try with everything I've got!"... but then you go and read messages in the Gulch rather than doing the Blender tutorial you're afraid of failing at, or adding the new scene to the story you're afraid to write.

    I'm out of answers. For me, I'm afraid it's too late. When this latest attempt to remake myself fails, it will be due to lack of self-discipline, and there won't be anymore tries left in me.

    Someone once told me that everyone's here for a purpose, if for no other reason than to serve as an example to others...

    So here I sit.

    If you love your kids, spank their asses, sit them down and make them work at whatever task is before them.

    Don't worry about how failing at the immediate task, or losing the immediate competition may hurt their feelings. Not learning self-discipline will destroy their lives, no matter how hard they cry now.
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  • Posted by Notperfect 9 years, 9 months ago
    Please pray that my granddaughter does not get caught selling those black market "Sweet Potato" biscuits her grandmother taught her to make. A history lesson also. They were Thomas Jefferson's favorite.
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