What would you do? What would John Galt do?
You walk into a small beach bar on the ocean and a guy is sitting there. You have met him at this establishment before so you sit down near him and strike up a conversation. This is the sort of bar where patrons generally talk freely amongst each other. The man was in politics years ago in Kansas and occasionally brings up political topics. You know that his opinions are all over the map and have even moved to the pool table in the sand in order to not listen to him before. You try to steer the conversation away from politics, but he is not deterred. Then he says:
1) He is for raising the minimum wage
What would you do?
2) He states that minimum wage will not affect unemployment and the law of supply and demand has been repealed.
What would you do?
3) Then he says Obamacare is great.
WWYD?
4) After explaining that the only areas were the cost of medical has gone down are those the government stayed out of (e.g., Laser correction surgery), he says we are the only advanced nation without nationalized health care.
WWYD?
5) Then he says kathleen sebelius, who is from Kansas, is a wonderful women.
6) Then he calls you a racist, because you state Obama has the same philosophy Stalin, Moa, Hilter, etc.
7) Then he states we should get rid of the Constitution.
WWYD?
1) He is for raising the minimum wage
What would you do?
2) He states that minimum wage will not affect unemployment and the law of supply and demand has been repealed.
What would you do?
3) Then he says Obamacare is great.
WWYD?
4) After explaining that the only areas were the cost of medical has gone down are those the government stayed out of (e.g., Laser correction surgery), he says we are the only advanced nation without nationalized health care.
WWYD?
5) Then he says kathleen sebelius, who is from Kansas, is a wonderful women.
6) Then he calls you a racist, because you state Obama has the same philosophy Stalin, Moa, Hilter, etc.
7) Then he states we should get rid of the Constitution.
WWYD?
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which isn't quite the same thing...
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I disagree with several of the premises; that fake orgasms are acceptable, that guys don't listen to or care about women's problems... okay, guys who get *laid* don't care about or listen to women's problems, that I believe, it's inherent in my philosophy that only egotistical assh****s get the girl...
khaling would agree with him on #5 because one may not speak ill of a wimmin.
Example: I had my hair cut today - by a little blond just-back-from-jogging California hair stylist. She mentioned that she was afraid to express her political opinions to most of her clients because they are flaming liberals (my term, not hers) and she disagrees with them. She particularly mentioned that we should not allow the illegal immigration that is not occurring and that we should practice 'charity begins at home' where our nation's finances are concerned. She is quite relieved to be able to talk about politics with someone with whom she agrees.
I think that the liberals look more numerous than they are because the have held the podium for so long. So it is good to disagree in public, though I might not have made it past about #4 before I walked away.
Jan
Thank you.
Jan
I have been outside the process for almost 20 years. The last systems I was actively involved in were the. F-14D and F-18E/F. They were very successful programs and needed at the time. They were work horses in Iraq and Afghanistan.
I will try some contacts and gain some intel to forward to you DB . You can make your own decision.
Cheers
Rule 2. What do I feel and why do I feel it.
Rule 2 can only be applied after the successful application of rule 1. Those who are guided by emotions are wandering a very dangerous land with no map, no compass and no ability to find the truth. The looters use the unearned guilt of those who will bear it as the chains of slavery that binds them to their failed ideology. You cannot force freedom on a person. Look at Iraq.
Cheers
2. Leave.
I've seen a few other recommendations here already. Frankly, they're perfect. I can't improve on any suggested method of argument.
One thing, though. The question is incomplete. Does this other person hope to benefit directly from a higher minimum wage, socialized medicine, etc.? Or does he think it a painless method of charity?
Your arguments, if you can reach him at all, are going to be radically different.
Recall, however, that John Galt "wrote off" only one group of people: the "mystics of science" who did their research work on government grants, and let the government weaponize their science, and either didn't care, or didn't bother to watch out for that or find out about it.
I see that you want to give up control over your life."
dbh- your question has been answered by referring to the oath.
But the answer to the real question is harder. I meet people like that all the time, I am not John Galt. These views are based on some emotional trigger, such lack of reality that evidence and logic have played no part in creating it. Maybe that is how the human mind works. You cannot influence a mind like that by presenting evidence and reasoning.
Do not walk away too early. Give it a go. A false smile is more effective than a harangue however sensible. Irrationality cannot be countered with rationality.
Counter irrationality with irrationality.
(Similar to Ashby's Law of Requisite Variety in control systems theory)
Some suggestions on these lines have been given.
Eg. But what should the minimum wage be? $10ph? $50ph? would that be enough with increasing inflation? Who should decide? Who should pay? Not the same people then! Are you paying enough for your beer or are you exploiting the low paid?
2) Call over the server or bartender and ask him/her what they would do if they were earning $100/hr? Would they shop differently? Watch guy squirm.
3) Ask him who will actually pay for O-Care Watch him squirm.
4) Ask him if he knows anyone who travelled abroad to a nationalized healthcare country, and why not? travel is cheaper than hospital bills. Watch him squirm.
5) Pfft. No comment.
6) Look up 'racist' in dictionary; watch him squirm.
7) Tell him I will respect his right to talk about getting rid of the Constitution bu not calling the cops, because the 1st amendment protects his right to say it in public.
7b) Then I'll explain to him that I can swim like a Navy Seal, and if he persists I will drag him out into the ocean where he can explain his defective arguments to Davy Jones, and not have to bother the rest of us anymore. As I watch him squirm.
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