(47) The New UFO Documentary the Elite Hoped Would Never Be Aired in Public

Posted by $ nickursis 6 years, 6 months ago to Science
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This is actually one of the best videos using facts and data to make a good case for the fact that it is hard to dismiss them. Also had some new stuff, where they actually filmed a UFO intercepting a simulated warhead in space and take it down with a beam weapon. That was repeated later and well documented, which was pretty amazing that that was released even through FOIA.
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 6 years, 6 months ago
    I voted it down. It is total nonsense.

    CG's point is damning: how come the elite and powerful worldwide global capitalist Masonic Jesuit communist conspiracy ruling class could not prevent this from being made and posted on YouTube?

    And... Would not a powerful, intelligent spacefaring civilization view our atomic energy as we would view primitives who learned to use a bow to start a fire?

    If anything, they probably got the first signals when we started electrical telegraphy. Certainly, radio... and then there was Tesla... Maybe he was signaling aliens. Hey! Maybe he was an alien!! Like DaVinci, and Aristotle!!
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    • Posted by CircuitGuy 6 years, 6 months ago
      The conspiracy theory requires the aliens to intercede in ways that enough people witness to justify a coverup to keep it a secret but not so many people that a coverup becomes in possible. Depending on who is in charge at the time, I would expect the gov't to use the evidence to call for more funding, preparedness, etc, not a coverup.

      You also have a good point that the aliens could have interceded when humans and human-like creatures appeared and started the current mass extinction event or when humans developed agriculture.

      This is basic anomaly hunting. Rather than starting with a hypothesis, you just search for anything anomalous and work it into the broad claim you want to be true. You can take a frequency counter (a device that measures the frequency where the power spectral density of background noise is highest) into the Bermuda Triangle or a purported haunted house and see some weird anomalies where the peak is higher than usual, lower than usual, jumps around more than usual , stays steady more than usual, or anything else. You can find something anomalous. It's more fun in an old house at night or flying through the Bermuda Triangle on a day with odd lenticular clouds.

      I truly think woo is fun. I love these videos like Taco Bell.
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    • Posted by $ 6 years, 6 months ago
      Maybe someone does NOT want it restricted, and, of course, clickbait comes in to play. However, are you saying then that all these government documents quoted were faked, made up or? If so, I will send you to the site where they have about a billion documents released through FOIA. Next question: Why would the government release them in the first place/ Granted, the government probably has no idea what billions of documents have been held, and probably when a request is filed and a judge says do it, maybe they just grab boxes, but you would think they would redact whatever they didn't want released. So now you get into a circular argument, government is hifi=ding it, but releases documents, but they release documents to help hide whatever it is they really have, so it is not edited or redacted because they want you to keep getting more documents made up to cover up whatever they do not want you to know. It becomes so convoluted, that may actually be their own real aims.
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 6 years, 6 months ago
    How could it be secret - well, most of the public still does not even know the truth about Obama;'s past.Secrets are not always easy to uncover. I saw a strange object in the early 50s in N.M. between Roswell and Gallop, back road. Lighted triagular hovering, no noise, then quickly darting away over the desert. My step brother was leaving the power plant where he worked late night in Ohio in the 70s, when a round one appeared to his right, hovered, then flew off. His truck worked and he came home. He asked our brother who was career USAF if he should report it and was told sternly to never mention it. I was curious why he never would speak of UFOS. I tracked the bases all over the world where he was stationed, and found each to have a history of high UFO sightings, never connecting that he was nuclear trained and that there could be a connection. To this day, he will not speak of it.
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    • Posted by $ 6 years, 6 months ago
      My father was in Alaska in the 50's as a radar tech on the DEW line. They had a report from the guard shack of an object hovering overhead, and then it zipped over a ridge. He went over there with another guy in a jeep, and the saw a small ship about 20 feet across, landed on the ground. They drove down to it, and as they came upon t, it shot up and zoomed away at incredible speed. He waited until he was 72 to tell me, because they had 2 guys come up from some Air Force department that interviewed them for several hours, then made them sign non disclosure agreements with really bad threats in it about jail and prison. There have been hundreds of people who, in their very old age, said the hell with it, and told their stories. You have to admit, they have nothing to lose, and also why would they make up stuff in their 70's and 80's.?
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      • Posted by $ Stormi 6 years, 6 months ago
        Remember when the government announced they no longer checked out UFO reports, and had no one employeed in that capacity anymore? My parents lived next to one of those chasers, and he was definitely being sent to check things out, two years later. Then my parents relocated. That was in the 70s I think, and even then government just could not tell the truth.
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        • Posted by $ 6 years, 6 months ago
          Yes, it is a well know change in policy that the UFO community know about. Project Blue Book was the offical attempt to tell lies to cover up sightings, and they did such a poor job, they closed it, and moved it all underground. The "Men in Black" are part of that, and there is some dispute as to whether they are military, civilian, or alien, because of the variations in what has been reported in dealing with them. The rash of nuclear weapons sightings and failures of systems kinda exposed the whole thing, as they were all over the various facilities, and made so many people sign Non Disclosure Agreements, that it became common knowledge that that is what they do, besides be very rude and threatening.
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          • Posted by $ Stormi 6 years, 6 months ago
            Yes, the military has a way of being intimidating. We once went in the back side of White Sands, public access paved road to Trinity Site, but they don't want you there. They actually sent out a B24, with the glass cockpit so easy to see in. They flew down the road toward us at pretty low altitude, low enough to see the license plate. We went on for a while, but but saw the guard shack coming up and decided to retreat while we were still free. They had sent their message, no more photos and stop while you can.
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            • Posted by $ 6 years, 6 months ago
              Area51, supposedly now disused, still has "Deadly Force Autorized" and they have extended their area to include the mountain that used to be the favorite spotter sight so now the nearest mountain is 15 miles away. They do push the security thing out there...wonder what they are protecting and it is not the U2 or B2...
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 6 years, 6 months ago
    Ok...then where are they now while fat rocket boy is acting up?
    Don't get me wrong, I'm willing to assign a small degree of probability here but of what interests do these things have with what we do. When these bombs explode, Is there some unknown quantum effect far beyond our system?

    Just some questions we'll never get answers to.
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    • Posted by $ 6 years, 6 months ago
      I don't know, but my point is either a whole lot of stuff is made up and convincingly so, or there must be some basis for it. I was on active duty when some of those things happened, and they did happen. We were on alert in the Pacific and actually went to battle stations on the one where the whole site went down. They stood down about an hour later.
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  • Posted by $ Snezzy 6 years, 6 months ago
    First point against the video: Ominous music. Any video that starts with ominous music is attempting to play on the emotions.

    I stopped watching just after the re-created scene of a spot-of-light UFO.

    Your best source for accurate information about UFOs is Jim Oberg. This article tells more, and points to Oberg's website:
    https://www.sciencealert.com/this-for...

    Here's Jim's list of 99 FAQs about UFOs:
    http://www.jamesoberg.com/99faq.html

    His conclusion? "... no compelling indication of anything beyond the realm of modern science – nothing."
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    • Posted by Dobrien 6 years, 6 months ago
      Obergs debunking is on NASA space flights. He has been paid by NASA to debunk other claims in the past. Does he have a conflict of interest?
      None of the witnesses were in space, how is his conclusions proof that these highly credible multiple witnesses often with radar collaborating their sightings is false. The head of project blue book the The FAA district director the seem pretty credible to me.. Why they were spotted around nuke facilities is speculation.
      That people saw anomalies and that at the same time malfunctions occured is a matter of public record thanks to the FOIA.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 6 years, 6 months ago
    This is pure nonsense, but I still enjoyed it.

    If I ever become elite or close friends with any of the elite, one day after work I'll ask them, "So how about that UFO documentary on YouTube that you didn't want aired?"
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    • Posted by $ 6 years, 6 months ago
      I am not beyond believing the government has been doing a coverup for many years, after all, honesty is NOT a government character trait.
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      • Posted by SteveFoerster 6 years, 6 months ago
        That's true, but it becomes much more difficult to keep a secret the more people know about it, and this would require an awful lot of people to be aware.

        And that's only one of the things that makes no sense about the idea that secret aliens are among us.
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        • Posted by $ 6 years, 6 months ago
          Well, for accuracy, no one mentions the alens, other than what may be piloting (if they even needed pilots), the UFO's. My point in all of this was just to offer it up as something that goes beyond just eyewitness accounts, and has factual reports. Why would anyone want to fabricate the whole pile of paper, as it is easy to verify the FOIA request? In addition, we then condemn the 20 or so witnesses to being liars. I am not sure I would want to tell 20 veterans "you're a liar because I don't believe in UFOs", only a liberal thinks that way...
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          • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 6 years, 6 months ago
            Could also be the New World Order cabal setting us up for a false disclosure in order to take over all governments...this recurring theme just keeps popping up.

            There ARE groups that think this way, question is: are they Really in positions powerful enough to carry out their wishes?-or-will they fail epicly or will it backfire just because they are incredibly stupid?
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      • Posted by CircuitGuy 6 years, 6 months ago
        "honesty is NOT a government character trait."
        [joking about the strawman]Well, I actually take the gov't at its word.[/joking]

        I truly enjoyed the video as I enjoy Bermuda Triangle documentaries. I don't know why I like this crap. It's pure crap, but if you link to another video like it I'll listen to it and enjoy it.
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        • Posted by $ 6 years, 6 months ago
          I try NOT to here, because most people get irate at unsupported, unprovable tripe, and 95% of this stuff is tripe. If you want to laugh go look at some of the "Giant UFO attacks" videos on You Tube, very poor photoshop, and also so badly done, looks like a 50's movie, but there are still people saying "why isn't this in the news?" I put this in the 5% of serious attempts to report on. I thought they did a good job of backing up each story. It just depends on if you can believe the documentation, which looked authentic to me.
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          • Posted by CircuitGuy 6 years, 6 months ago
            Speaking of woo-woo UFO stories, do you know the disappearance of Frederick Valentich? In the radio transcripts he reports UFOs circling him for several minutes.
            "Ah, Melbourne, that strange aircraft is hovering on top of me again. [Silence for 2 seconds.] It is hovering, and it’s not an aircraft. [17 seconds, open microphone, with audible, unidentified staccato noise.] "
            He was never heard from again.

            It's actually a true story. He probably got distracted by seeing his own lights reflected in the water and crashed into the ocean.
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            • Posted by $ 6 years, 6 months ago
              Maybe, but there was actually several cases down there, one specifically on an Argosy aircraft that flew a specific schedule that reported lights, and they took a TV crew with them, who recorded them. You can either take it as true or believe it is faked, because anything can be faked.
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              • Posted by CircuitGuy 6 years, 6 months ago
                "You can either take it as true or believe it is faked,"
                I agree with the tautology that they're faked or not faked. If they're not faked, though, it does not mean they're space aliens.
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