ASp3 Request
Posted by Hiraghm 12 years, 4 months ago to The Gulch: General
@AtlasProdLLC, if you're watching...
I know it's probably too late to offer input to the 3rd movie, but I have an odd little request to make. First, as usual, some background
Back in 1982/83, the movie, Star Drek: Wrath of Khan came out. I think this was before I'd skimmed Atlas Shrugged.
There was a scene that haunted me for years. I hated it. HATED it. I'm talking scorched-earth hostility.
It's the scene where Kirk takes command of the Enterprise and Spock makes his famous line:
"Logic clearly dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few"
and Kirk adds, "or the one".
I was so furious and hate-filled at this scene, that several years later when I got my Amiga, I got a clip of that statement, and re-edited to say, "Logic clearly dictates that the needs of the few outweigh the needs of the many" and made it my alert sound.
Then Star Drek III: "The Search for Spock".
At the end, after uniting Spock's soul with his new body, Spock turns to Kirk and says the following:
"My father says that you have been my friend. You came back for me.
"Why would you do this?"
And Kirk replies: "Because the needs of the one... outweigh the needs of the many."
At which I applauded.
Then came Star Drek IV: Spock Saves the Whales, which is a source of annoyance*, but has possibly my favorite scene from the Star Drek movies.
At the beginning, Spock is trying to re-educate himself at the computer, and the computer asks, "How do you feel?"
Then his mom walks in.
Amanda: "Spock, does the good of the many out weigh the good of the one?"
Spock: "I would accept that as an axiom."
Amanda: "Then you stand here alive because of a mistake made by your flawed, feeling, human friends. They have sacrificed their futures because they believed that the good of the one - you - was more important to them. "
I cheered, much to the annoyance of my fellow movie-goers.
(actually, they didn't sacrifice their futures... they traded value for value... :)
Now to my request:
Could you please try to get the rights to use one of those two latter scenes? What I think would be outstanding would be to have one or the other, preferably the one from Search for Spock, playing on a television in the background either when Dagny gets the note from Francisco about rescuing Galt, or when one of the looters/moochers is once again monologuing about the needs of the "public" vs the greed of a few individuals. I think it would add a useful little shot about the emotional side of individualism.
I know it's probably too late to offer input to the 3rd movie, but I have an odd little request to make. First, as usual, some background
Back in 1982/83, the movie, Star Drek: Wrath of Khan came out. I think this was before I'd skimmed Atlas Shrugged.
There was a scene that haunted me for years. I hated it. HATED it. I'm talking scorched-earth hostility.
It's the scene where Kirk takes command of the Enterprise and Spock makes his famous line:
"Logic clearly dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few"
and Kirk adds, "or the one".
I was so furious and hate-filled at this scene, that several years later when I got my Amiga, I got a clip of that statement, and re-edited to say, "Logic clearly dictates that the needs of the few outweigh the needs of the many" and made it my alert sound.
Then Star Drek III: "The Search for Spock".
At the end, after uniting Spock's soul with his new body, Spock turns to Kirk and says the following:
"My father says that you have been my friend. You came back for me.
"Why would you do this?"
And Kirk replies: "Because the needs of the one... outweigh the needs of the many."
At which I applauded.
Then came Star Drek IV: Spock Saves the Whales, which is a source of annoyance*, but has possibly my favorite scene from the Star Drek movies.
At the beginning, Spock is trying to re-educate himself at the computer, and the computer asks, "How do you feel?"
Then his mom walks in.
Amanda: "Spock, does the good of the many out weigh the good of the one?"
Spock: "I would accept that as an axiom."
Amanda: "Then you stand here alive because of a mistake made by your flawed, feeling, human friends. They have sacrificed their futures because they believed that the good of the one - you - was more important to them. "
I cheered, much to the annoyance of my fellow movie-goers.
(actually, they didn't sacrifice their futures... they traded value for value... :)
Now to my request:
Could you please try to get the rights to use one of those two latter scenes? What I think would be outstanding would be to have one or the other, preferably the one from Search for Spock, playing on a television in the background either when Dagny gets the note from Francisco about rescuing Galt, or when one of the looters/moochers is once again monologuing about the needs of the "public" vs the greed of a few individuals. I think it would add a useful little shot about the emotional side of individualism.
The two causes of irritation for me in Spock Saves the Whales...
secondly, all the leftist BS about our short-sightedness. What about the short-sightedness of the probe? Look at all the lives it disrupted and/or ended. Just how enlightened are these aliens? In "Mote in God's Eye", there's a great scene where the sailing master of HMS MacArthur tries to explain to a scientist why the captain rammed an alien ship; it had been using its light sail to try burning up the MacArthur. The scientist asserts that that was a meteor defense, to which the sailing master replies, "So what?"
(from memory)
"Suppose you leave your car parked on a hill with the brake off and the wheels pointed the wrong way; it rolls down the hill and kills 3 people. What's your ethical view of that?
Granted the aliens are at least as intelligent as we are, they had an obligation to see that their meteor defense didn't fire on neutral craft. "
But the big pain I have with that movie is the scene with Scotty trying to use the Macintosh.
Yeah, funny. Real funny.
Except the computer was SUPPOSED to be a Commodore Amiga. But the buttheads at Commodore would not give them an Amiga computer to use for free. Now an iconic scene in the Star Drek universe is linked with the Macintosh, instead of the most most sophisticated personal computer of that era.
30 years later and I still want to scream.