CO2 overestimated by 50%.

Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 11 months ago to Science
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The top Cimate modelers are way off the mark.


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  • Posted by 7 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Sorry term2, but we can pollute the planet and we do have an impact just not from the CO2 BS..
    Islands of plastic in the oceans , one nuclear plant in Japan has an impact.
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  • Posted by $ Suzanne43 7 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes. His mansion has such a huge footprint that it's almost unbelievable. Of course, the liberal press never brings that up.
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  • Posted by Stormi 7 years, 11 months ago
    This whole global warming scientific hoax goes back so many years. From the day the meters were put in place to record so-called warming, their placement was set to skew the results to show it was hot, really hot - esp. if they are in enclose brick NYC courtyards or where yet plane emissions blast them. The whole thing was a control device, to get people to do what leaders wanted. Who let Gorby into US schools with his Green agenda and false ideas, all while still holding his Communist Party Car politicians and "educators". Who planned Earth Day to fall on Vald. Lenin's birthday, some one who wanted to laugh at the stupid US citizens. Even the UN says they no longer care if global warming is true, as long as people think it is, and they can control them. Climate change is even more ridiculous - climate has always changed, luckily. CO2 warriors were doing one thing - going along to assure continued grant money as a reward. They persisted in saying electric engines were a salvation, even though the carbon footprints of all those batteries, is worse than conventional. They have to know that thy power is not there to plug in millions of battery cars every night, they can barely meet the needs of everyday life now. Of course they know, but hope we don't so they can control us. Unlike AlGore, I actually took science in college, what a moron he is, except when he goes to the bank with his bogus carbon credit money. Why is manmade climate control, by multiple counties, like our two HAARP installaotins never discussed. Because it does not lead to control of the population, and they don't want us to know how much we are paying to manipulate the ionosphere and jet streams.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 7 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    LOL!
    Yeah, while leaving a carbon trail with his private jet.
    Never mind what comes out of his mansion.
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  • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 7 years, 11 months ago
    So first they got rid of the Medieval warm period so that they could claim it was the hottest in recorded history and not have to deal with those pesky historical facts.

    Then when the slope of the curve didn't match their predictions, they lowered the temperature in the early part of the 20th century to get the curve to slope up more.

    Now that people are making the case that their grand tax and wealth transfer scheme isn't enough to fix the climate so we should just spend the money on fixing any affects of whatever happens, they are moving the goal posts closer so that their preferred solution might actually work.

    Why is anyone still listening to them?
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 11 months ago
    The earth will do what it wants to do. Its just too big to be affected in any substantial way by human activity.
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  • Posted by $ Suzanne43 7 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yupper! Al Gore can't hear you because wherever he goes to talk about global warming there is usually a howling blizzard going on, or at the very least a cold snap.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 7 years, 11 months ago
    My dangerous dino mind just imagined Al Gore squeezing his eyes shut, covering his ears and repeatedly screaming, "I can't hear you! I can't hear you! La-la-la! La-la-la!"
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  • Posted by ProfChuck 7 years, 11 months ago
    The dynamics of atmospheric CO2 is very difficult to analyze because of its role in the biosphere. Increases in CO2 stimulates growth in vegetation which results in a natural carbon sequestration mechanism. The effect of this is to slow the rate of increase in atmospheric CO2. However, the details of this process are poorly understood. This is primarily due to the fact that there are hundreds of thousands of species of flora each with its own unique response to the availability of carbon. Modeling this response array and factoring it into a global climate model is an enormous task. Models of the system tend to be mathematically chaotic in that even small changes in the input parameters result in wildly differing outcomes. Unfortunately, this opens the door to selection strategies that are based as much on ideology as on the scientific method. Humans have a natural desire to simplify the complex even if the results veer away from objective reality. The consequences of this is the illusion of understanding. The problem is that it is much easier to believe something than to understand it.
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  • Posted by 7 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    These experts create models of climate using super computers with large over estimations but they don't factor in the most important variables like the historical cycles of the sun, the Earths magnetosphere the increase in volcanic activity not to mention the cosmic rays that increase clouds.
    It is like taking a photo of a super model wearing
    An over sized snowmobile suit. You really miss a lot of crucial details.
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  • Posted by 7 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Or is it. With these folks it must have been like a miner hitting a gold vein twenty years ago. I can't help but think the demand for man made causes of natural events or cycles , inflating the value of biased studies based on models that are clearly inaccurate was and is hard to resist for these "experts".
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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 7 years, 11 months ago
    You can't have a crisis and command limitless tax dollars and political support with actual co2 numbers.
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