Hillarious Humor...Hillary Klingon in new Star Trek Discovery Series
They even got this wrong...or did they?
"An executive producer for the forthcoming CBS All-Access drama “Star Trek: Discovery” claims patriotic Trump supporters inspired their version of the evil Klingons."
These creatures are besmirching our beloved Star Trek!
"An executive producer for the forthcoming CBS All-Access drama “Star Trek: Discovery” claims patriotic Trump supporters inspired their version of the evil Klingons."
These creatures are besmirching our beloved Star Trek!
I cracked up when they said that the klingon's were evil trumpet supporters...then...I saw klingon hiltery at her finest!
I'm thinking Debbie Schultz...
Odo, who could only seek theoretical happiness when returned to the planet in which his fellow shifters lived in their planetary sea of... yeah.
Speaking of Ferengi - Nog (Quark's nephew) became "civilized and acceptable" once he went from his proper Ferengi upbringing as a capitalist "criminal"... to a good Star Fleet Cadet, discarding the evil capitalist ways of his people.
Bah. Just remember... Resistance is Futile.
He cannot come to terms with the loss of his wife, and he ends up finding peace in the Bajoran religion, which his superiors in Star Fleet either ignore or are concerned might affect is loyalty. Contrary to seeking to line up Federation aid to make Bajor a client state, he at one point urges their gov't to sever ties with the UFP to prevent their being invaded again. The show present Bajor and Sisko as religious and the UFP is atheist, and it does a good job of staying out of the issue. In the first season it presents some religious people as violent extremists, but it presents atheists and non-extremists religious people working together.
This is just the latest about this new iteration of stories about this seemingly doomed show. Apparently, they have made some cast changes because it was going to be a white male captain with a black female first officer. Well, this dynamic stuck the wrong way with the SJW's because it was too much like the duel slavery they complain about: black oppression and misogyny. Can't have a white male have control over an oppressed victim class, let alone two.
Saw a large hostile alien spacecraft get booby-trap destroyed by some kinda time warping quickie grow redwood tree.
I'll be checking the whole thing out next Sunday.
Hillary is not loyal, honorable and pugilistic in your face, like a Klingon. She is a sneaky, scheming demon. She is much more like a Romulan or a STNG Cardassian (not Kardashian)., much more like a Cardassian, sneaky, back-stabbing, executing those speaking out against the Obsidian Order.
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Scratch that: I've got it. The Dominion. There is no better example in Star Trek of communism than the Dominion. They live communally, they have a god-complex second to none, they enslave other races and indoctrinate them to do their bidding whether war or peace, and they enforce their views on everyone else brooking no contention. Yup. I think we have a winner here.
I liked all the ST series except Voyager because it was dripping with so much left wing PC propaganda I couldn't get past the third episode and stopped watching. Never went back or watched reruns so I don't know if it got any better. Based on this it looks like "Discovery" will be the same.
I am really into Star Trek, and I never noticed politics in Voyager. TNG and DS9 did it a few times, although thankfully not always with the same viewpoint. Maybe I'll revisit Voyager. I'm struggling to think of politics in the show. Some of the Chakotay episodes maybe, but I think i see them as just bad episodes going over-the-top with Native American stereotypes.
Add to this - his distinctive facial tattoo - was (to me) grabbing at another group - the Maori - who fought fiercely against yet another overarching and conquering empire - this time, the British.
With that one character, I realized that either the writers were saying the "good federation" was really a bloodsucking leech of a dictatorial empire... or the writers never put 15 seconds of research (about things I remembered from my Sophomore World History class) into the real message they were (perhaps unwittingly) espousing.
Regardless - the way they ended Voyager, bringing in deliberate time manipulation, was, to me, a cheap and schlocky device because no one had a clue how to do a decent ending... or would put in the work to craft one. Kate Mulgrew - the Buns of Steel - ended up in the right place much, much later in her career (playing opposite Taylor Schilling) for being part of this "crime against good scriptwriting"...
Clearly in DS9, the major powers are presented as bloated empire. I liked the way DS9 handled this. The UFP was not always right or the Maquis always wrong. I wish they had continued that in Voyager, with some conflict in which the Maquis have good points. Captain Janeway could have recognized these points and acquiesced but been afraid her authority was being undermined if she looked like she was giving in too much, even when the Maquis were right.
For whatever reason I never felt the sense of being stranded far from home on a ship with rebels. When I watch the reimagined BSG, I can accept they're a group of humans on the same side who don't agree on everything stranded in hostile territory. I never felt that with Voyager.
I never saw that at all. When you say "diversity" in the 90s political context, I think of working with people who look different or have radically different life experiences. The Maquis were a militant separatist group. I hope the writers weren't saying this is an allegory for having co-workers who are black or gay.
"the "environmental disaster" of the planet caused by an alien finally represented as a white guy farmer, so obviously meant to be a depiction of a Hollyweird liberal's idea of a conservative Republican,"
What? I'll have to watch it again. I remember it being completely different. There were two aliens who had the power to move ships long distances, a male and female. They made some mistake that hurt the Ocampa. They felt obligated to support the Ocampa for life. The Ocampa became weak as a result. The female alien left. The male alien was dying of old age and was trying to find a way to keep his ship from falling into Kazon hands and to save the Ocampa who had become completely unable to support themselves. This show came out just after the Republicans took over Congress with their Contract with America. One of the key Republican messages at the time was scaling back Welfare programs, which they said created dependence and a cycle of being victims, just as in the show. In this context, the show has a Republican message. I don't have any reason to think they were responding to politics. I think the show had nothing to do with politics.
Have to run...
I know very few Republicans, but this sounds like the Republicans before their deplorables came out of the shadows: Out-of-touch experts want to help people based on past crimes. They accidentally create a "zoo" dehumanizing and robbing the dignity of the very people they want to help. The result is the people cannot provide for themselves or protect themselves. Fortunately, Janeway's ship is well-armed. She destroys the Caretaker's facility and fights off the Kazon.
Oh, I did not down vote your post. I would never down vote anyone having a civil discussion expressing their views and I appreciate your views and the time you take to express them. You have a much more detailed memory of the series than I do because mainly what I recall is it was a crappy show with a crappy PC message that only used the "Star Trek" moniker to get people to watch it.
I know. I wasn't clear on that. I meant this sounds like something Republicans would say about Democrats. The show didn't portray the aid from the Caretaker as fixing the Ocampa's problems, and they all lived happily ever after. It showed them becoming dependent on the Caretaker for their basic needs and also unable to defend themselves.
I meant it sounds like a Republican message. As it is it reads like I'm saying Republicans create dependency, which is not what I meant.
Ha, it would be interesting if you and I could kick back and watch the first episodes together and offer our comments. I wonder if you'd bonk me on the bean with my bottle of Guinness within the first half hour. LOL!
I heard he was supposed to be Wesley's flight squad commander, Locarno, in The First Duty who lied to cover up the death of a student doing a daredevil maneuver. They made it a different character to avoid paying royalties or something. In The First Duty, Locarno takes full responsibility for the accident, when he could have tried to pass the buck. So he comes off a good person who made a mistake. Paris said he went to jail for not telling the truth, so I think of them as the same character.
Later in the show Paris really becomes a character who's good at everything: flying the ship, engineering, part-time medic. At least once I can remember them exploiting the trope where the white male is ignorant of prejudice, but the time I'm thinking of actually worked for me. It was funny, not a public service msg.
I wonder what they were trying to say with Harry Kim, who never progresses in rank and often is the butt of plots where he's the new, inexperienced, uncouth guy. Janeway seems overbearing and autocratic. Tuvok is annoyingly arrogant. I don't think they were making comments about Asians, women, or African Americas with these characters.
They do go overboard with the Chakotay Native American thing. He's kind of a mix of many tribes and stupid stereotypes. They play that Native music, and his mumbo-jumbo turns out to be right.
All in all, though, the show is just not that good. You might watch Threshold to see it dip into so-bad-it's-good territory.
"I wonder if you'd bonk me on the bean with my bottle of Guinness within the first half hour. "
No, I like nit-picking and disagreeing about Star Trek. The only way I had g/fs in high school was I went to a school for nerds.
I heard different, that when they were casting Voyager they were looking for a Robert Duncan McNeill type and couldn't find a satisfactory one. They finally decided to use McNeill himself even though he had played a different character on Next Generation. Royalties wouldn't enter into the picture, he would be entitled to the same royalties for reruns regardless of which character he played.
I hope they portray the Klingons as an honor culture, like samurai, medieval European knights, or cowboys in the wild West. It's okay if they're isolationist and ethnocentric. They should just go with something creative and not worry about the easily offended.
But it is gut busting humorous for those of us that are aware and have a mind,