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PSA: no matter what, Equifax may tell you you've been impacted by the hack

Posted by $ nickursis 7 years, 8 months ago to Government
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I am now believing these guys are not producers, but looters in disguise. They manufactured a system over time that has business addicted to their "credit scores" that profess to be accurate representations of your "trustworthiness" (if so why does someone who pays all their bills on time, never having a bad mark, rate a score of "675", and thus get 18% interest offered to them, because of that score? One would think paying your bills is the one thing a lender needs to know...) Thats same system professed a need for every bit of data you ever had to identify yourself, then they allow their most valuable material to be stolen en masse, and their top 3 executives dump al their stock days before the announcement? Toa dd insult to injury, if you check your "status" it appears dead people, Dumbocrap voters, Russian citizens, and Mickey Mouse, all had their data stolen, so sign up for our free credit monitoring (by a company they, the people who caused the issue, own). The weadd the fact you just unknowingly signed away your right to sue, by agreeing through their use clause, to arbitration only. These guys have got looting tuned to a fine science and make a great companion to the Federal Government....


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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I know, but I take your warning seriously, and I cannot guarantee a fellow gulcher that going to the site may not trip some secret flag. Best left alone unless you have a very secure vpn.
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, and one reason I like Kaspersky is it is very, very good at finding that stuff, and does have a secure mode for any site you want to label as such.
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  • Posted by ewv 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There is more than just cookies you can guard against in your browser. You can make encrypted dns queries, limit the use of javascript, block unwanted extraneous connections, and blacklist known unwanted ip addresses, all in addition to using a vps.

    But all of it comes with a price of experimenting, configuring, and troubleshooting when something you want doesn't work right because some limit is too strict.
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  • Posted by ewv 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There is good information on both the wikipedia and the darkwebnews pages you linked to, for both legitimate privacy purposes and just to learn something what the rest of it is about. You weren't advocating illegal activity.
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    So, I deleted it to make sure I do not point anyone to something that could be sinister. Thank you for pointing that out, I am not suspicious enough.....
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    So a government program is monitoring a government program. That sounds about right. Time to delete cookies....that would be their main tracking tool first...Although just looking into if for more information is not a crime...yet....
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  • Posted by ewv 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Darkwebnews, with its suggestions for Silk Road and links to much more, is not wikipedia.

    There are a lot of good reasons to seek more privacy on the internet, and a lot of reasons, including good ones, that the FBI doesn't like. The IRS in particular doesn't like private currencies.

    The government is carrying on a surveillance war against tor to break it. It's ironic that after the initial computer science networking research it became a project supporting dissidents, international human rights supporters, journalists, etc., funded by the Office of Naval Research and DARPA.
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Why would just looking at a wikipedia article and a website about it be bait for the FBI? I am not seeing the connection, in that the dark web is not an illegal thing, it is just another facet of the internet. Used for nefarious purposes, sure, but there are also legitimate uses. It is just it is built mainly for privacy, which of ocurse, is specifically what government does not want you to have. I can see it in relation to terrorists and drug dealers, but most, if not all the crypto currencies (which keep spawning more and more), work in it for that reason. So, if you are not a terrorist, or drug dealer, but are using computers for mining crypto currencies, that makes you bad?
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  • Posted by ewv 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You should have warned us that just looking at that information is bait for the FBI and not to go there without already having a darkweb connection.
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  • Posted by ewv 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I don't know what you mean specifically by the darknet. The "dark web" usually refers to website and other resources hidden from public use (and often used for criminal activities) such as the onion network or private links. It doesn't help with accessing the normal kinds of websites we visit. If you mean private connections for personal communications that is a possibility, but a lot of or most hacking and surveillance target compromised machines at the ends of the network.
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  • Posted by Jujucat 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yeah, all good info. I do use a VPN but there are issues with that too. What do you think about the darknet? I started heading that direction a while back but got distracted away from it.
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  • Posted by ewv 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Good to get rid of facebook and much of google. Unfortunately everything they have collected is still there, still being merged with other databases.

    It's hard to escape google scanning your email even without a gmail account because so many others you communicate with use it.

    For accessing social media in read-only mode you can set up accounts with no information added, but you will be surprised to see what shows up in ad displays, revealing how they are tracking your connection and merging information. It helps to use a vpn connection and//or the tor browser for some of what you access.
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  • Posted by Jujucat 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    True. I got rid of my facebook account and am now working to rid myself of Google. It's not easy, but it's still possible.
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  • Posted by Jujucat 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I thought the hack happened in late July, no? (Not that one month makes it different, just looking for the facts, as usual)
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  • Posted by scojohnson 7 years, 7 months ago
    They do track your payment history. Paying minimums indicates risk of financial stress, as does excessive use of credit available. In general, you don't want to use more than about 15% of revolving credit, or carry long term balances on revolving accounts.

    Installment stuff doesn't affect it much, other than short term hits when a new loan is opened until a good history is established.
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  • Posted by GaryL 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Ha! I actually learned 2 lessons with that one. CCs are very bad and you just can't fix stupid. Divorce after just 2 years was way cheaper and to this day she is still in debt up past her ears with 2 more Xs.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "I learned the hard way with the first wife who had a CC at every store she shopped in and $20K in debt that I paid off right after burning all the cards."
    The same thing happened to me, except we were living together and had a wedding date next year when I discovered she was running up high-interest debt and lying about it. It was for every assortment of fancy candles, nail polish, etc. I dodged a bullet.
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  • Posted by GaryL 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Correct again CG! With a trip to the bank to get cash being over 30 miles and all income being direct deposit the card is just so easy. I do see it differently than you describe because at the end of every month the bill is real cash but never more than we can pay immediately upon receiving the bill. It is not the way I would prefer to do things but it works for us. I learned the hard way with the first wife who had a CC at every store she shopped in and $20K in debt that I paid off right after burning all the cards. I am quite sure the CC company looks upon me as a loss in every respect and as a result they ding my BS credit rating which in all reality is meaningless as long as I don't require any real credit.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "I do like when I have so many points earned they have to send me gift cards"
    They collect a fee form merchants in the 3% range and then return half of it to consumers in bonus rewards of some form. The merchant gets to avoid the problems of keeping so much cash on hand. They also get the chance that the consumer will swipe the card and not think as hard as he would turning over hard-earned bills. The bank gets the chance that a consumer who would not walk into a bank and ask for a loan might accidentally find himself in credit card debt.

    On our last vacation we took out a wad of cash that we wanted to spend. It made it so easy to watch the bills go down as we came to the end of the vacation. It actually felt like we got more value for our money just by being aware. One merchant gave us a discount. If we had used cards, we would have had to check online or add them up. That would have worked. But cash is so easy. It keeps track of itself. If I had never heard of card payments, it's not a product I would ever have sought out.
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  • Posted by GaryL 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You are completely correct. Some years back when we were up to our ass with car payments and a mortgage but making half what we make now we were rated at 804 but working very hard to reach no debt. These companies can kiss my ass but I do like when I have so many points earned they have to send me gift cards even though they made nothing in interest from me.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "We owe no one any debts at all and 725 is the best they can rate us at."
    The industry calls you a "deadbeat". They want you to buy their product, debt. People not purchasing their product is of no interest to them except that they're potential new purchasers.

    BTW, I don't hold it against them at all for wanting to sell their product. I don't even care if they make a little game where they size up how favored a customer you are. They're providing a valuable service for willing customers. They're free to make a figure-of-merit game out of promoting their product if they want.

    They try to convince people, though, that they have a benchmark for responsible behavior. A much, much better benchmark for good financial management is building wealth for yourself. Actual wealth is infinitely more important than the banking industry's opinion of you as a potential customer.
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I have never had a credit card, either. (But I did once sort of use one. I went to Minnesota to see my dying father, and my sister agreed to finance the trip on her credit card, so I went; later, I got enough cash to send her the payment for it).
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