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Houston Is Drowning-In Its Freedom From Regulations

Posted by $ nickursis 8 years, 6 months ago to Government
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I had to post a response to this drivel in my FB account, but wanted to share this as it is so indicative of the "disater happens because we are not controlled enough" crowd. My point was, in oregon we get 1-2" a day rainstroms and in 4 days we are flooding, houses under, roads covered, and Oregon is the most regulated atste beyond Kalifornia. If we got 20-30 inches, we would look just the same as Houston. Regulations do NOT fix the problems, they often cause more of them. It is only when the local populace hold their political morons to task to actually prepare for these things, that it can be somewhat ameleorated. When you get 20-30 inches of rain in a few days, you just betted have a frigging boat ready, and a waterproof home, no matter where you are, as you are screwed. Ask the people who went through Katrina. I can just bet they are filling out the "give us 10 Billion for Houston" forms for the feds already.....


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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 8 years, 6 months ago
    Houston is being hit by a 500 year event. Municipalities don't normally prepare for such things because of the expense, and if they did, someone would want to know why they aren't prepared for a 1,000 year disaster.

    The personal danger was compounded when their idiot mayor told everyone to ignore the governor's call to evacuate and sit tight. Mayor Sylvester called Governor Abbot a fearmonger, and said everything would be just fine. He still insists he did the right thing, because millions of refugees trying to return now would get in the way of rescue efforts. The final body count should tell the tale.
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  • Posted by dnr 8 years, 6 months ago
    I live in Pearland, TX which touches Houston on our north side. Our planned subdivision had it streets flooded, because of two reasons. First, the draining system was designed to handle 2 inches of rain per hour. We had more than that. Second, the storm surge coming from the south prevented any draining into the gulf from up line. Never-the-less, not one single home in the whole community of over 10,000 people had their homes flooded. Street are now slowly receding and we may be able to leave the house by Wed or Thur. If you call our city's/county's building codes for new construction (including planned communities) regulations, then I guess that is what they are, but they come from engineering studies on wind and flood. Houston, like most older cities, had no such codes and it has always been subject to flooding. You can debate if the mayor of Houston did or did not make the right call, but I think that he made the call based on the information that he had at the time.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Too bad you can't prove it all and sue them, although that would be a waste of time but just.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If that is true, it should become a viral memem like a picture of trump saying evacuate and one of mayor saying , don't and water flooding, and circulate with "who's telling you the truth? The NWS was warning of this 4 days in advance and nailed it pretty good, not to listen to them is stupid.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thank you, the news is so unreliable, I didn't believe a mayor could be that stupid, He should not be there long..
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There you go. It depends on what you think will happen in the future, more of this or less, but look into some form of barricade. I have seen homes in Oregon where they either used building block walls or brick, or earth stone, raised 2 feet around the house and sculpted into the surroundings, and a waterproof block for the opening, some would use gates and mount them to the gates, others used wood with waterproofing material. Kept them dry when others were wet.
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  • Posted by Eyecu2 8 years, 6 months ago
    I am in the Houston area just to the West along the Brazos river. IDGF what law, and regulations are passed the Hurricanes aren't listening and will do as they please. The only thing that can be done is what is being done. Neighbors helping neighbors provide infinitely more help than any agency. I have been trapped in my home for 4 days and the river is getting closer by the minute. Thankfully my neighbor just came by and cleared my driveway so I can get out now if I need to.

    Mt biggest takeaway from this is to get myself a good chainsaw, haven't been able to get my old Poulan to start. Grrrr my bad should have had it serviced.
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  • Posted by Temlakos 8 years, 6 months ago
    The only reason anyone in Houston is drowning, is that the Mayor of Houston deliberately told his fellow citizens to ignore hurricane warnings. It's as if King Cnut had ordered his subjects to stand on the beach to hold the tide, in addition to trying to sit on the beach and proclaim his defiance.

    As I understood it, those who prepared, survived. (They even had the wherewithal to save the lives of others.) Those who didn't prepare, didn't survive, either, unless some kind private soul rescued them. (Reminder to everyone: check out Rand's essay, "The Ethics of Emergencies.")
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 6 months ago
    I read an article which said that the Houston demoncrapic mayor told everyone to not evacuate or the think twice about it. He said, that the source of the suggestion to evacuate was flawed...don't until a more trusted source says so. Of course, the source that said to evacuate was Trumpet. Because of the mayors idiotic bias...people died, trapped and it all could of been avoided if he had heeded the message from President Trump.

    The other thing that gripes my butt, is that if your area gets flooded easily...MOVE! If any regulations are necessary...this would be one. It is rare that mankind, the army corp or engineers or any government has been successful at protecting an area from flooding.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    And the left witch doctors keep preaching that productive men are at fault. More like the dark ages every day.
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  • Posted by $ gharkness 8 years, 6 months ago
    What an idiot that guy is. Does he think that if there were more restrictions, Harvey would have read the laws, said, "I'm not welcome here," and turned around (and presumably gone somewhere else where there were zoning laws in place)?

    YES, Texans do value their freedom! At least he got one thing right.
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  • Posted by jscrump59 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    As a resident of the Houston area several areas that flood were not considered to be flood plains when they were established. Reservoirs created later and runoff from new commercial and residential areas push the "problems" down stream.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 6 months ago
    "Hi, we are from the government and we are here to help you."
    (What Ronald Reagan said about the most frightening words one can hear).
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  • Posted by tdechaine 8 years, 6 months ago
    If we quit bailing out everyone who is a victim of a storm, then there would not be the building and rebuilding in such areas, thus even less need for regulations.
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  • Posted by scojohnson 8 years, 6 months ago
    From my limited knowledge of Houston, there are only a couple of things that could be better. First, I'm not a fan of building in known flood Plains, but they are not the only city to do that. Flooding is a 'lowest points' problem, we used to call them swamps, now we call them subdivisions. Second, the 'using interstates as the drainage' idea - they probably regret that. We always armchair qb something, but the recurring theme has been to skimp on drainage systems. They are expensive, but how much per foot compared to each $400k+ house it passes? Bid the costs lower, get rid of the cronies, a park bathroom doesn't really cost $1 million, get the costs into realistic by not dragging out procurement and contracting for years.

    From observation, the building code looked very good.
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  • Posted by evlwhtguy 8 years, 6 months ago
    I am sure it is only Mother nature punishing all those anti government racist white supremacists in Houston for daring to turn away from government to ameliorate all their problems.
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  • Posted by mrdenis 8 years, 6 months ago
    Living in NJ we are swamped with regulations ...I was having a house built at the jersey shore in the mid 80's and wanted a elevation of 18ft above sea level ...the town told me it would not pass the height because the town had a coed of 12FT ...yep it took 30 years but I got flooded out with Sandy as the water hit 15ft above ...the town now has a new code any new construction must be at least 16ft ...
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Oh, I know that, I actually have a couple websites that have gone untended and I should close them down, ever since MS killed Front Page, I have not found a decent WYSIWYG editor, and have not had the time to relearn it. But yes, that is probably a better way. i just irritated that, even before the disaster is over, people are coming out of the woodwork and screaming it's someone's fault, the Global warming crowd is belching crap too, blaming on that farce...i can more buy into Dobrien's idea of solar influence being a repeatable, historically provable cause, than the CO2 "give us your money in penalties" crowd.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 8 years, 6 months ago
    Hi Nickursis,
    This hurricane is just one of many examples of the extreme weather around the globe this year. It is the result of the grand solar minimum. During this sun cycle the inter tropical convergence zone is disrupted the "normal" jet stream or at least the jet stream that we have become used to is abnormal.This causes tropical rains to stream Into unusual regions or during the wrong season. It is like a rivers in the sky.
    Also there is a marked increase in volcanoes that throw particulates high into the atmosphere. This volcanic activity has reoccurred during each Grand solar minimum in the past maunder minimums and Daulton minimums just like clock work. Not to be ignored is the rapid increase in
    Cosmic rays that enter our atmosphere due to our weakening Magnetisphere. As it weakens more of the Rays particulates penetrate and as they do they create an increase in clouds. This August is the coldest In 60+years It has been cold and rainy similar to April -May the weather people have called it augtober . The neighbors lilac bushes are blooming again I have never seen it before. Our lakes average temp is a full eight degrees colder than avg. Much of Norway's agriculture went unplanted this summer as it has rained 60 of 62 Summer days. Huge flooding in Midwest this spring destroying much AG. May blizzard in Kansas wiped out 35% of our wheat crop . Mountains of snow in the Sierras that never melted ( that is making a glacier in California no less) oh yes their 5 year drought eliminated in a week. This is happening around the globe see historic flooding in New Zealand , Europe, Canada
    Pakistan , India (tomatoes harvested are escorted to market by armed guards due to severe shortages.) Japan ($10 potato chips bags due to poor crop) South America .Record ice build in Greenland and more sea ice in the Arctic since 1971.
    This is just the beginning as cosmic rays penetrating are expected to increase 19% after having increased 13% just the last two years.

    It is also believed that these rays interact with our DNA
    Ushering in a new Renaissance of enlightenment
    and creativity. Preceded by a rough patch (now)?
    The sun is the driver of our climate period. Whatever impact man has from co2 it is miniscule.
    We shall see how this plays out.
    Watch the rise in food prices.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Not my video. I'm in Burbank in a heat wave;^)
    I agree that the free market is the best solution, and that the hurricane is just an excuse for more whining from statists. That's why I looked for direct evidence from people on the scene in an area where I had some knowledge.
    To be blunt: Yahoo news is rubbish and except for company news releases on technology I am interested in (containing only the company's propaganda;^), I avoid it.
    One advantage of the internet is that we can find the truth from people on the scene much easier than ever before.
    BTW, you can get your own host for a webpage and email for less than $30 a year, and the hosting company will not be pilfering through your email. There are lots of good companies that offer the service at a reasonable price. (Free Markets!)
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