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Newsletter on UCCS: 'Veterans should be banned from four-year universities'

Posted by $ nickursis 8 years, 6 months ago to Culture
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So, this leads me to wonder, if this is free speech, how does it differ from a KKK ralley, or a BLM rally? All would be considered free speech yet only those they despise get castigated. Hate is obviously a one sided affair, which goes back to what philosophical roots got so screwed up in our past that bad is good and good is bad. and transference of characteristics is passed by one group to another. "All military are white supremacists and racists" seems so utterly false as to be babble. Yet they will ban them and allow their freeloading 18yo HS grads to come get a free ride on student loans they refuse to repay, and that is all moral and good. I am rapidly heading to Heinlein' philosophy of requiring 4 year service for citizenship and privileges like college....


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  • Posted by CarrieAnneJD 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Very true. Oh how I wish I could make idiots pay for our costs and fees when they make us hold their feet to the fire to follow the law. Instead, it comes out of our client's share, which is usually capped below even their actual damages anyway... but I digress.
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  • Posted by NealS 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Exactly, however seeing these creeps physically attacking innocent people without provocation, a combat vets response, at least in his mind, would be to simply to kill them. If the people that are being attacked could fight back it might end, but it's hard for one individual or even a few to fight a crowd. Combat veterans usually know what battle they will win or lose. My inclination would be to put snipers on the roofs and announce that anyone that physically attacks someone else will be shot. So they are right about fearing veterans, it's just that it's going to take a little more provocation before veterans organize and do something to stop these freaks in our society. They are right about fearing veterans but it is going to take a little more than buzz to actually set them off. Most combat veterans do not want to fight anyone anymore, but there might be some that would. Sometimes I feel we should prove them right and just kick their butts.
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  • Posted by JuliBMe 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well, obviously, you've got to have the time and the money, not to mention be willing to put yourself out there. For some, the good that could be accomplished might outweigh those objections. Practicality is an individual standard.
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  • Posted by a59430802sojourner 8 years, 6 months ago
    I too am a resident of Colorado; and i live in Colorado Springs about three miles from this campus. Unfortunately most of this has started in the last few years under the leadership of our 'illustrious' our governor Hickenlooper. How's that for a name?
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Exactly why Heinlein's theory had so much validity, he believed when you serve, you have to place yourself in the position of defending your country, you were serving something higher than self, although he never lost sight of the "take care of yourself along the way".
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  • Posted by NealS 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I spent a year of getting shot at, mortared, and rocketed for that kind of treatment. It made me recall the treatment veterans got on their way home, nothing's changed. That kind of comment is more than "Clickbait" to me and cannot be retracted. Sometimes I feel like we should just give them what they want, the same as they dish out, but I can't break the thought that it would be wrong. I really have doubts that there are many, if any, veterans connected to these outbreaks, ignorant comments and suggestions. Maybe actually becoming a veteran should be required of everyone.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Carrie, that is called "cost reduction and avoidance" where they just say "no" to a legal responsibility, because they know how much it will cost you to force them, and they have their own lawyer or 2 on staff, so you go broke trying to get them to do what they are required to do, and in the end, you may spend 10 grand to get them to do 2 grand of work. Who loses? That is the system that has been crafted over the last 60-80 years....
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I believe that it is maybe the only way to teach responsibility for self, and working as a group, that is left. Although the rumors I get from acquaintances and my sons says it is decaying pretty bad inside along the same lines.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    One of the problems is, a) you have to go get enrolled in a college, which is a HUGE PITA, as they have all kinds of little filters to keep out the undesirables, like "older people". Like certain classes as a prereq that older people may not have. and b) It's damn expensive, just like the health care costs, free money lying around for college, and easy to get loans have allowed colleges to raise tuition as fast as possible. I was taking online classes at University of Phoenix and one 8 week class was 1800.00. Not worth it to go try to stem the tide of stupidity, arrogance and factual fantasy that passes for college today.... nice idea, just not practical..
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Indeed true, especially the Army. However the 2015 DOOD report sates:

    This pie chart presents the race of Active Duty and Selected Reserve members across the DoD. Members who report themselves as White represent the largest proportion of the total DoD force (70.7%), while Black or African American members represent 17.0 percent. Asian, American Indian or Alaska Native, and Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander members make up 4.0 percent, 1.1 percent, and 0.9 percent, respectively. Over two percent (2.5%) of members report themselves as Multi-racial.

    download.militaryonesource.mil/12038/...
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Indeed, it was clearly someone who knows nothing factual about vets, but is just driveling for attention, which works after one gets so fed up with snowflake drivel being accepted and a sermon from God. Maybe a better way to handle it would have been to just rip them down as they appeared and note that they were not from a person affiliated with the university, and as such has no right to post in their domain. Go staple them to telephone poles with the garage sale ads....
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  • Posted by Donald-Brian-Lehoux 8 years, 6 months ago
    Brandenburg v Ohio allows free speech to the point of educating people HOW to do violence BUT not to actually do violence.
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 8 years, 6 months ago
    I haven't liked growing "old". I don't like it that it is
    now much harder to get a job.
    But I have a similar feeling to something Ayn Rand once said, that she was glad to be old, not to
    have to be around to see certain things. And it is
    tempting to get into the same mood, because of seeing the attitudes that are getting so widespread.
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  • Posted by Eyecu2 8 years, 6 months ago
    The thing that I find utterly idiotic about them wanting to bann vetrans from higher education, is that from my personal experience as a white vetran, very large numbers of service personal are minorities. I won't go into specific numbers but I can unequivocally state that minorities are at much higher ratios when compared to national ratios. Therefore this policy if it were to be enforced would be more detrimental to to the very ones they wish to protect.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 6 months ago
    Another one of those pushung the envelope from the far left in order to see how much they can stir up and who they can stir up. As a pre-teen, I had never seen a naked black man until I was at a beach where anyone who needed a place to change into swimming trunks was in one big room with showers and urinals. Standing within a few feet of me was a black teen.who was changing into a bathing suit and I was surprised to note he was pretty much like me except that the hormones were at work. I don't know what I expected to see, but I was gratified that he was human. I did admire his extremities and I realized for the first time, what certain sexual prowess remarks were about. Rather than be fearful of him (no tentacles)..
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  • Posted by JuliBMe 8 years, 6 months ago
    I don't know where I heard or read this, (was it here on another thread????) but I like it and will pass it on here. Someone suggested that all older people aware of what's going on in our colleges take a class or two and start politely raising their hands and question the disinformation being "taught" in the classrooms. Bring a smart phone to record and watch the Marxist professors heads explode. This will also expose the other "skulls full of mush" with actual true and common sense information that they can remember.

    The person who suggested it said that some of the kids came to him for more information. I imagine the "teacher" would not call on you more than once, but that once could be very interesting and helpful to others.
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  • Posted by ProfChuck 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Expecting a liberal to understand logical thinking is like expecting an oyster to want to learn how to play the violin. It just isn't in their wheelhouse.
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  • Posted by Eyecu2 8 years, 6 months ago
    I have long supported service earns citizenship and privileges. I would take it even further and require service to earn the right to recieve any and all possible govermental assistance, much like the cheesy movie Starship Troopers.
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  • Posted by Joseph23006 8 years, 6 months ago
    The chancellor's comments made sense up to the point where in the interview it was noted that neither the publication nor the writer had a connection with the university, in other words, it was outside influences trying to stir up trouble. One thing about veterans on campus would be the experience they bring from the outside, they will not be intimidated into accepting the propaganda so prevalent in many classes by liberal instructors. Considering that the author could not be reached or located, there is a slim possibility that this was done by a liberal professor who fears all the things I have cited, he could be challenged in the classroom by some one who has dodged bullets and even death so he won't be intimidated by words.
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