Think Like a Corleone, by Robert Gore

Posted by straightlinelogic 6 years, 8 months ago to Government
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Expanding government power and domination are the deadly enemies of integrity and trust. As a government uses violence to subjugate, the subjugated quickly learn that honesty and honorable behavior are persecuted; to survive they must resort to deception and covert resistance. The subjugators invariably regard the subjugated as an inferior class and disparage their tactics as dishonorable.History is replete with such instances. Sicily has been ruled by a long line of outside powers. Starting in the late 1800s, the Mafia became the embodiment of the inverted morality that takes hold among tyrannized and brutalized peoples. That morality does nothing to advance the general welfare; it doesn’t promote prosperity or progress. It only allows the subjugated to survive.

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  • Posted by term2 6 years, 8 months ago
    The USA government IS the current mafia. It has no morality, no limits, does what it wants. It got rid of the former mafia, and replaced it by itself.
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    • Posted by chad 6 years, 8 months ago
      I had an older sister who had married a Mafioso, I thought it was interesting that he always said the government hated them because it did not like the competition. He pointed out that they are the same on many levels. Try not getting the state's approval for working or running your business that they promise to protect from themselves if you do not buy their protection.
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      • Posted by term2 6 years, 8 months ago
        It’s ironic that our government is so similar to the magus. They steal from us under threat of imprisonment and confiscation, force us to ask for their approval to do almost anything. It’s very disturbing
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  • Posted by chad 6 years, 8 months ago
    I have watched what you recommend at work by those who would evade the state. When I was much younger I read a book 'How to Live Free in an Unfree World.' At the time his advice worked very well. He stated that over 90% of the information the state had you had given them. To avoid them quit giving the state your information. The plan worked quite well. It was easy to live unobserved. Now everything is monitored, including our discussions here. The state does not need nearly as many slave masters that need to be well paid to watch the slaves. The state merely writes a program and it watches all transactions, interactions and tracks all individuals at all times making it easy to locate the slave who might even inadvertently be acquiring a group of followers while becoming their leader. Everything is indebted even if your property is 'owned' by the person occupying it is likely they don't realize the state has indebted (bonded) it beyond your ability to repay. It can be taken if you are using it to be self sufficient. I am not aware of any way to avoid the state. Raising food is okay as long as you don't eat, transport, trade or benefit from it in any way.
    What makes all of these irrational laws and regulations so terrifying is that there is an army of police, federal agents and etc. who are willing to enforce them and remove your ability to sustain yourself on command while nearly the rest of the entire population will applaud them. Dr. Walter E. Williams (a noted economist) has been telling his children that they should have $50,000 to $75,000 worth of gold buried on their property (not in any banks where it could be easily confiscated) with which to facilitate leaving the country. I don't know that would be possible in that the state will just make it illegal to own or use gold (as it did in the 1930's depression) and it would be confiscated before you could spend it.
    It is important perhaps at this time to be quiet and not speak anywhere that might be monitored (oops) but where to go and how to effectively provide for yourself and not be a confirmed enemy of the state is not a plan I have developed yet.
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  • Posted by $ puzzlelady 6 years, 8 months ago
    There is a Gresham's Law in human behavior: predatory dominance drives the idealistic notions of honor, honesty, integrity and morality, out of circulation. The prey has to develop survival tactics. In the name of individual freedom, the subjugated themselves must form collectives for their mutual defense. As with other animals, disguise, camouflage, subterfuge, even pretense of obedience evolve. There is no incentive for the tyrants to voluntarily refrain from exploiting their prey. They just need to measure their bloodsucking so as not to run out of victims. Rival gangs coexist with conditional respect as long as they don't weaken. For lovers of individual freedom, it's a fascinating study in value evolution by a perverted chain of "natural" selection. And can they break our spirit as Orwell foresaw?
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  • Posted by Dobrien 6 years, 8 months ago
    Nice work Robert, I wonder if it wasn't for a guy now in exile, that some people would say the gov.
    Doesn't listen in on everything , you must be a conspiracy theorist. This line of yours made me think of that.
    "Americans are frequently condemned for obliviousness to the lies and depredations of the people who rule them. " Robert Gore
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  • Posted by edweaver 6 years, 8 months ago
    Excellent article! This is exactly the reason I read more in the gulch than I speak. Less is more. What people don't know, won't hurt me. :)
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    • Posted by 6 years, 8 months ago
      "Never let anyone outside the family know what you're thinking!"
      Vito Corleone
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      • Posted by DrZarkov99 6 years, 8 months ago
        Good advice! After spending much of my life in highly classified programs, and becoming uncomfortably familiar with how invasive of our personal lives intelligence agencies have become, I don't put information up on any data cloud, nor present much of my history online. I don't put bumper stickers on my vehicles or post political campaign signs in my yard. I don't participate in surveys online, by mail, or on the phone either. I try to keep my family well supported and safe, but avoid anything that draws attention to my financial situation (I have a home sufficient to our needs, and an old, reliable vehicle, even though we could afford better).
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 6 years, 8 months ago
    It does seem to be getting like that. One thing that irritates me is when people self-righteously whine about the "dishonesty" of people who "cheat"
    the IRS. The IRS is a robber; if a robber holds you up on the street, you are entitled to tell him you don't have any money, without the slightest
    detriment to your moral honesty.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 6 years, 8 months ago
    "the Mafia became the embodiment of the inverted morality that takes hold among tyrannized and brutalized peoples"
    I am here because 100 years ago my great grandparents came from a village 20 miles north of Corleone, Sicily came to the US to escape the horrible system that sprung up in the absence of the law. My great-grandfather was a hard man who who refused to let my grandfather even talk to people involved with the Mafia in the US. I went back to Sicily earlier this year. I know about five words of their language from hearing my grandparents. I had to communicate using the Spanish, which has a few words in common with Italian, and which ironically I learned at a private school. Surprisingly many people there know no English at all.

    My grandfather was more like you describe people having grown up in a world of omerta, where even trivial information could be a weapon. He was a funny guy on the exterior, but hardcore tough in the face of crime. My father became a bank executive and wanted to be far from his rough roots. I just realized all this recently. I've had a privileged life, allowing me not to think twice of sharing this with strangers online or at a random high-tech business networking event. I do think my great grandfather Vito from Sicily would think me pitiably foolish, as you say.

    A collapse of the law is not an option for me. We don't follow the Constitution anymore, but it's not too late change. History could view these times as the "post-industrial statist dead-cat bounce" or something like that. I like your article, but like AS, for me it's an example of what not to shoot for. I want America to work. My story of being a complete stranger to Sicily after only three generations is what America is about. I cannot accept things falling apart. Like the Dr Banner (the Hulk), you wouldn't like me to go back to 19th century Sicilian.
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    • Posted by term2 6 years, 8 months ago
      Once USA gets to the status of Venezuela, then perhaps change could happen. But it will take 50 years, and if one looks at Venezuela maybe never.

      I wont live long enough to see any sort of rebirth, so I agree with the author to do whatever we can to survive
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      • Posted by edweaver 6 years, 8 months ago
        Considering the unrest that is going on now, I think it is closer to 20 years if we get that long. And personally I think we are too far down the rabbit hole to get out.
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        • Posted by term2 6 years, 8 months ago
          It is the leftists that are the violent ones aimed at anyone who doesnt agree with them. The freedom loving people tend to be peaceful- up to a point of course.
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        Posted by CircuitGuy 6 years, 8 months ago
        "I wont live long enough to see any sort of rebirth, so I agree with the author to do whatever we can to survive"
        My thought on this is similar to the discussion in another thread on this site (can't remember which) about how the paradox of Jefferson taking a leap forward in liberty while owning slaves. My mind has no problem conceiving of him making a leap forward in trying to realize philosophical dreams of power flowing from the people to the gov't while still not respecting all people's rights. It's so easy for someone to bring up some horror of slavery and say I somehow condone slavery if I see the good in the progress the Founders made. It's so easy for people to say I condone the surveillance, taxation of a third of our income (more if you count local + borrowed money), the drug war, etc, if I say America is place of amazing freedom and opportunity. I see our problems as being akin to Jefferson's slaves. We are amazingly free and prosperous, more so than ever, but in some areas we're way behind. It's awful we just accept a large/intrusive gov't, but the same person who has to turn over a third of what she earns might not have been allowed to get an education, earn money, and follow her dreams 100 years earlier. I think the average adult, if we include people from all walks of life, could better explain why his life is his than the average person 150 years ago. That's progress.

        I'm not looking to a future like present-day Venezuela. I'm looking for the game-changing zero-to-one creations that will reduce statism in 50 years.
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        • Posted by term2 6 years, 8 months ago
          I can see how the idea of being intellectually consistent is a real benefit over time. The difference between straight up objectivist philosophy and what we have now in the USA becomes more apparent as days go by. Even Ayn Rand foresaw the collapse of the country (as in venezuela) and the end result which even john galt and the titans of industry couldnt stop.

          Why do you think that the USA wont go down that path. So few people are really intellectually in favor of individual freedom and willing to stand up to political correctness. The CEO's wont even sit on Trump's round tables to put their two cents into reducing regulations and cutting taxes- for fear of political incorrectness taking THEIR jobs away.
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            Posted by CircuitGuy 6 years, 8 months ago
            "Why do you think that the USA wont go down that path."
            It could happen. It could go either way. On one hand we have a lot more individual freedom and respect for people's right to live their own lives. OTOH we accept the idea of gov't being a third of GDP and I sometimes hear the burden of shifted to the individual in questions of freedom "Why should people be allowed to..." Technology offers everyone a printing press and makes Orwell's nightmare of microphones hidden in bushes and behind picture frames seem tame. It could break either way.

            Regarding PC, I think it's a "wild card" straw man with almost no meaning. I call it "wild card" because it's so devoid of meaning it can be offered as the supposed basis for any claim. In other cases it's just a fig leaf for bigotry.

            Regarding the CEOs resigning in protest from boards, I think the president's comments were disgraceful, and I don't see the upside of less gov't spending and intrusiveness. He is for increasing spending and intrusiveness. If he weren't, it's possible more business leaders could overlook his offensive antics.
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            • Posted by term2 6 years, 8 months ago
              I don’t see how trump was so disgraceful in his remarks about the violence in Charlottesville. What he said was that both sides were wrong to engage in violence. It takes two to tango, and both sides fought. Both sides had a right to express their points of view I don’t agree with nazi fascism but they are as entitled to espouse their point of view as I do about objectivism. Violence is another thing. The police are there to keep the peace, which they didn’t want to do. I don’t think trump was wrong in what he said
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              • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 6 years, 8 months ago
                He wasn't. Unlike O who jumped at every opportunity to place blame on white folks, Trump stayed neutral blaming all sides for the mess until more info could be learned.
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                • Posted by term2 6 years, 8 months ago
                  Obama made white people feel they were being attacked by blacks thru the power of the government. The government should be neutral when it comes to preferring one race over another, and stick to protecting everyone’s rights. I think trump is doing just that, which is why leftists hate him so much
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                  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 6 years, 8 months ago
                    "The Constitution of the United States knows no distinction between citizens on account of color. Neither does it know any difference between a citizen of a state and a citizen of the United States."
                    - Frederick Douglass

                    "Abolish slavery tomorrow, and not a sentence or syllable of the Constitution need be altered. It was purposely so framed as to give no claim, no sanction to the claim, of property in man. If in its origin slavery had any relation to the government, it was only as the scaffolding to the magnificent structure, to be removed as soon as the building was completed."
                    - Frederick Douglass

                    He'd roll over in his grave with what has become of things.
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                Posted by CircuitGuy 6 years, 8 months ago
                Without getting into the merits of why I find President Trump's comments reprehensible, I'm suggesting some percentage of business leaders see it as I do and really just want nothing to do with it.

                I do not know that's their motivation. Maybe they don't see him as an apologist of white nationalists but know many people do see him that way, and they think he's politically stupid to stir up the issue with no plan to defuse it.

                Another possible motivation is they oppose President Trump as increasing gov't spending and interference, and his comments are a "sexier" and more popular excuse to distance themselves.

                I'm only speculating. If I had been on one of the advisory boards I would have avoided the issue and tried to back away once the news cycle moved on to avoid entangling the company in politics. If my board wanted me to leave the committee in protest I could do in good conscience, but I'd advise them to stay away from it unless the business were associated with a public brand.
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                • Posted by Dobrien 6 years, 8 months ago
                  Get into the merits of what Trump said that was so reprehensible. Please let's hear it.
                  I suggest it is because you have been told to feel that way, by the media.
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                    Posted by CircuitGuy 6 years, 7 months ago
                    "Get into the merits of what Trump said that was so reprehensible. "
                    It ends up being a long discussion, but I the upshot is that it sounded to me like President Trump was providing white supremacist talking points. Talking about "sides" of street fights aggrandizes the participants, some of whom are Nazis. So it's the POTUS defending and aggrandizing Nazis. It's just absurd, esp with the president's history of racist politics.

                    I was not surprised by his initial comments. His critics were milking his failure to condemn Nazis for all it was worth. Then he did condemn the Nazis. His critics wouldn't be satisfied. It was making them look bad. They reminded me of President Obama's critics never being satisfied no matter how vehemently he condemned ISIS and other extremists orgs. Then, because apparently President Trump simply cannot control his thirst for attention, he brings up it again in away that makes him sound like a Nazi apologist. I'm less concerned with the content because I don't thin he and his low-life base get much done. I am more concerned with him putting attention-seeking ahead of even his own interests. I wonder if he would foment a serious crisis just to get attention on himself. That makes me think he dangerous.
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                    • Posted by Dobrien 6 years, 7 months ago
                      Transcript of Trumps remarks on Charlottesville.
                      What white supremacist talking points?

                      We will be discussing economic issues in greater detail later this afternoon, but based on the events that took place over the weekend in Charlottesville, Va., I would like to provide the nation with an update on the ongoing federal response to the horrific attack and violence that was witnessed by everyone.

                      I just met with FBI Director Christopher Wray and Attorney General Jeff Sessions. The Department of Justice has opened a civil rights investigation into the deadly car attack that killed one innocent American and wounded 20 others. To anyone who acted criminally in this weekend’s racist violence, you will be held fully accountable. Justice will be delivered.

                      As I said on Saturday, we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence. It has no place in America. And as I have said many times before, no matter the color of our skin, we all live under the same laws, we all salute the same great flag, and we are all made by the same almighty God. We must love each other, show affection for each other, and unite together in condemnation of hatred, bigotry and violence. We must rediscover the bonds of love and loyalty that bring us together as Americans.

                      Racism is evil. And those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo Nazis, white supremacists and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans. We are a nation founded on the truth that all of us are created equal. We are equal in the eyes of our Creator. We are equal under the law. And we are equal under our Constitution. Those who spread violence in the name of bigotry strike at the very core of America.

                      Two days ago, a young American woman, Heather Heyer, was tragically killed. Her death fills us with grief, and we send her family our thoughts, our prayers, and our love. We also mourn the two Virginia state troopers who died in service to their community, their commonwealth and their country. Troopers Jay Cullen and Berke Bates Exemplified the very best in America, and our hearts go out to their families, their friends and every member of American law enforcement. These three fallen Americans embody the goodness and decency of our nation.

                      In times such as these, America has always shown its true character: responding to hate with love, division with unity, and violence with an unwavering resolve for justice. As a candidate, I promised to restore law and order to our country, and our federal law enforcement agencies are following through with that pledge. We will spare no resource in fighting so that every American child can grow up free from violence and fear. We will defend and protect the sacred rights of all Americans, and we will work together so that every citizen in this blessed land is free to follow their dreams in their hearts and to express the love and joy in their souls. Thank you, god bless you, and god bless America. Thank you very much."
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                      • Posted by CircuitGuy 6 years, 7 months ago
                        "What white supremacist talking points?"
                        My comment describes three statements and my response.
                        1. President Trump comments about violence on "many sides" that sounds sort of like he's defending Nazis. I figure it's a poor choice of words.
                        2. Trump delivers the statement you quote above. He reads it sort of like a hostage forced to read a statement, but the content of it is all the right things. His critics won't let it go. They start to look bad. What do they want from him? Does he have to give a two hour speech saying he doesn't agree with Nazis? Nothing will satisfy them. They're just milking his poor choice of words earlier for all it's worth.
                        3. Amazingly, in inexplicably, he repeats the same language that sounds even more like defense of Nazis than before. These are the white supremacist talking points.

                        None of these statements make me think President Trump really has Nazi sympathies. My thought immediately after #3 was that he's so obsessed with attention that he doesn't even care about his job or anything. He just says what gets attention. Later, though, I think maybe he was rebelling against his handlers and critics for making a big deal out of a minor poor choice of words in #1.

                        My point for this discussion is many people, whether it's because we're influenced by the media or whatever, really objected to President Trump's comments in #3. At least for me, they took me from being sympathetic to him with regard to his critics milking a minor gaffe to thinking he's dangerous. It's possible, I think probably, people resigning from his advisory committees were reacting the same way as I did.
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