Was The Charlottesville Riot A Set-Up?
Me dino was tempted but decided not to post this article when I first read it this morning. I don't like to read print that small and I could read "Firefox prevented this site from opening a pop-up window." (Psst! I also don't like to post links that ask Gulchers for money). So if you caught a pop-up, me so solly, y'all.
What changed my mind was Rush Limbaugh on my car radio a little later asking the same question and theorizing that the libs who run Charlottesville connived~not to do a Rahm Emanuel "Do not waste a good crisis"~BUT TO CREATE ONE.
Rush spoke of the police at Charlotteville standing down as well as retreating for the expressed purpose of fetching riot gear but then coming back without any.
In the article, police at the scene were definitely shackled from enforcing the same wear no mask law police effectively enforced at Auburn University a few months ago.
You had better be a kid and it better be Halloween if you want police to overlook your wearing a mask in my sweet home Alabama.
It's original intention was to successfully unmask the KKK.
Besides criminals doing crimes, it appears the those who hide behind masks these days (who aren't Muslim extremists) are the cowards of Antifa, BLM rioters and similar "useful idiot" losers that George Soros loves to fund.
What changed my mind was Rush Limbaugh on my car radio a little later asking the same question and theorizing that the libs who run Charlottesville connived~not to do a Rahm Emanuel "Do not waste a good crisis"~BUT TO CREATE ONE.
Rush spoke of the police at Charlotteville standing down as well as retreating for the expressed purpose of fetching riot gear but then coming back without any.
In the article, police at the scene were definitely shackled from enforcing the same wear no mask law police effectively enforced at Auburn University a few months ago.
You had better be a kid and it better be Halloween if you want police to overlook your wearing a mask in my sweet home Alabama.
It's original intention was to successfully unmask the KKK.
Besides criminals doing crimes, it appears the those who hide behind masks these days (who aren't Muslim extremists) are the cowards of Antifa, BLM rioters and similar "useful idiot" losers that George Soros loves to fund.
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Alt right/white supremacist got a permit and were quiet with no trouble. Police were there with riot gear, tanks, etc...along comes BLM, no permit, loud mouth and physically threatening. Police now absent from the scene along with all the gear.
Kinda looks like it was allowed to happen by design...not sure if we should just blame this on political incorrectness.
The media only wants to hear their preferred slanted version of what happened.
Yes, a Nazi punk did run down several people with a car, killing a girl.
But those who set this whole ugly mess up also have blood on their hands.
Doubt they will ever have to answer for it, though.
Why am I suddenly thinking about the Clintons?
Spineless behavior in the GOP does not help.
Have not vetted it out...it was from my wife's dumb phone...haven't seen it in any of the 100 news articles I get daily.
It is not proof that they are in the KKK or white supremacists.
Some have a heritage and an ancestry with war stories they are proud of.
During the 70s I was acquainted with such a family with the surname of Kennedy, believe it or not.
Their war story was a Civil War soldier who obtained leave to visit his family, which he did on horseback. Just as he arrived some Yankee cavalry also showed up.
Kennedy led the Yankees on a merry chase, hopping fences and having the advantage of knowing the lay of the property where he grew up.
He visited his family after the Yankees lost him, gave up the chase and went away.
That's because all the Yankees knew about Kennedy is that they chased some uniformed Reb on a horse.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politic...
https://disq.us/url?url=https%3A%2F%2...
Never let SJWs define the terms of a debate. Especially the Big Liars of "antifa", who are much more like the original Brownshirts than any of their opponents to date.
And for what it's worth, if I'm ever driving near a demonstration, I'm not stopping for anybody even if the alternative is prison. I remember what happened to Reginald Denny.
"there’s an anti-Trump movement in this country that will never, ever be satisfied as long as he’s president.”
Then why are you being paid $47,000 a year (average for Charlottesville VA police officers) if you refuse to protect the people in your city?
Those police answer to a chain of command that prints their paychecks.
Always follow your last order.
Or how to keep your job.
I lost a job for doing what was right for the customer and for the company, but wan't according to orders, so I have no sympathy. (After that it wasn't a place I wanted to continue working for ethical reasons.)
As for the public, I only had to protect them twice with two warning shots fired to stop as many escape attempts.
I've also been in as many minor riot situations.
The prison I worked at was well designed for containing areas.
The Lozito case was a particularly infuriating one: http://gothamist.com/2013/07/28/subwa... The cops on the train actually took credit for subduing the murderer with the media, when the reality was that they watched innocent people being brutally stabbed and Lozito actually being the one to subdue the killer while suffering life-threatening wounds.
- Thomas Paine
Neither the police, nor the courts, are achieving the outcome that was the sole objective of their creation.
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it"
Oh, well, I'm concealed carry, have a pistol permit, have more than one gun and the training to use them all.
And while I'm on the subject, let me assure everyone here: Robert E. Lee would never have had any truck with the racists. He wasn't that kind of man, and that wasn't why he led the Army of Northern Virginia. He led it because he could not "raise [his] hand" nor "draw [his] sword against [his] own people."
1. We are in an undeclared civil war, they hate Trump and will not stop trying to discredit and destroy him.
2. This was a set up delivered by the shadow govt.
Who is always willing to sacrifice a few human lives or more.
3. The unmasking laws and the irony of it all.
2. What's a few lives to worry about toward achieving a socialist utopia that always works out oh so well?
3. What worked with the KKK can work with Antifa.
BLM and Antifa are not considered opponents for being useful tools.
Me dino shall revise that to say they are considered to be Lenin-coined "useful idiots" by George Soros, who pays them to go risk their necks.
And if this time you do not agree, I will trash my Jurassic World paddock by doing the Brontosaur Stomp~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8pN-...
During my career as a state corrections officer, I've watched angry inmates trash their living area.
Such shows of defiance never bothered me.
They always have to clean their own mess up in the end.
I'd just stand and look at it all~yawn~occasionally checking my watch for time to drive home.
In other words~Aw, for-gedda-bout it! We cool!
Why look for trouble?
George Soros wouldn't pay an old-fashioned American dino like me to do that anyway.
I honestly think this country is in very serious trouble. We've lost our way, our principles, and our ability to reason. The result will likely be bad, and more abrupt than I thought we'd see. Very sad, really.
This country is in serious trouble indeed.
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Ferg...
"There's absolutely no doubt that part of the reason that Ferguson flared up was because protesters were being paid to be there. That makes you wonder how many are being paid in Baltimore? How many more will be paid in the future?" The Right Scoop asked.
Of course, there is no way to vet just who did and didn't get paid, but the fact this seems to be modus operandi seems to say...well, yes.
All in all, paying people to break the law by making trouble strikes old dino as racketeering.
Wondering if a RICO charge would legally stick.
Conspiracy.
That might be exaggerated.
Me dino IMO leans toward the maybe is not exaggerated bit.
It is bizarre, not to say extremely suspicious, that Virginia’s Democratic Governor Terry McAuliffe and Charlottesville city officials Mayor Mike Signer (also a rabid anti-Trump activist), Vice Mayor Wes Bellamy and Police Chief Al Thomas Jr. had this tool that could have been used as necessary against both sides in the riot and did not use it.
It was almost as if they wanted masked thugs to be running wild in their city center.
The final and most bizarre evidence of a set-up was the police “stand-down” order issued as the riot broke out.
Why did none of this happen 4 weeks ago? Also, if you see lamestream media, they are once again, saying Trump will be impeached, his people are all abandoning him, he eats little children alive (no, Hillary does that), and he says bad things to little girls. Yet, it seems they keep trying to tag him with SOMETHING, anything. The Republicrats are no better, they sneak in a comment now and then, but no voice of outrage at the fact this was obviously a staged event, purposefully screwed up, and by Dumbocrap elected officials. It is an indictment of them more than anyone else. Yet, no media comment, and they all took preventative steps to disarm any allegations of a setup. What a crock....
Months of incessant Russia! Russia! Russia! screeching hasn't worked out for all the yapping wannabe commie chihuahuas.
Time for the "not my president" smear Trump fest to blather about something new.
People getting killed in the process is only viewed as useful to lefty jerks who dream of some unattainable socialist utopia.
http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/08/16...
Old dino also lived through Jim Crow all that in the then Democrat Alabama.
Remember the gas station rest rooms marked "COLORED."
Recall being a kid who felt sorry for blacks forbidden to use the "WHITE ONLY" ice water machine on hot summer days.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2...
The weirdest line in that one: "“This could have been a much worse day,” said Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe, “We planned for a long time for today’s incidents.”" Excuse me? It takes long planning to keep 2 groups of people apart who hate each other? Hello, do you come from Portland, Oregon?
And Slate, man they must be controlled by Clinton or whoever pulls strings for Dumbocraps: http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slates...
Weird line: " Unsurprisingly, the far right has used its elevated status in Trump’s America to find the real culprit for this weekend’s hate crimes: George Soros." Far right? WTF is that? Any one who does not subscribe to the socialist order the Dumbocraps have been bought to deliver? Never mind I believe the vast majority of people are in the middle. Clearly this was a slanted piece...
This was also a repeat of an incident in July, so one has to wonder why it was almost the same thing, yet it went smoothly, the KK dudes got their say, the protestors (again outnumbering the KK by like 10 to 1) did their protesting, and no one got hurt. A month later, the cops are incapable of controlling it? Seems wrong to me...
http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/08/us/kkk-...
Governor McCauliffe seems to be the idiot who triggered this, by declaring an emergency and ordering the Charlottesville police to remove the alt-right demonstrators. The police had a decent setup, and a reasonable plan for keeping the two groups separate, but the emergency order threw all that into a cocked hat.
In one case when there was no police around, I thought someone was going to get violent. One of the women on the pro-peace side talked him down. She sort of had a motherly demeanor. I was amazed because I thought for sure there was going to be fighting.
I've managed enough projects to know how easily things can get hosed. If the police mess up or there's no calming influence like that motherly figure, things can rapidly turn to worms. That's probably what happened.
I don't know what the Antifa or white supremacist protesters are really like, but the images I see are nothing the people for and against the invasion of Iraq in 2002 and 2003. Most of the peace protesters really wanted peace, and most of those in favor of war really thought the invasion of Iraq would be a step toward peace in the Middle East. The people I see today appear to be itching for a fight, and this is the cause they've latched onto.
What appalls me is the media seeking to paint Antifa as some kind of heroes, even comparing their thuggish assaults and vandalism as somehow the equivalent to our forces assaulting the beaches at Normandy on D-day.
I'm now beginning to lean in the direction of conspiracy, since it appears the Virginia governor lied about the state police finding a cache of weapons brought to the city by the neo-Nazis. That was his justification for the declaration of an emergency, but the state police have said they found no such cache of weapons, and never told the governor they did. It's becoming obvious that this very well may have been a setup.
The Russia collusion angle is fizzling out, so playing the race card is another angle to stir up anger and separation. Before Trump said anything, the left wing pundits were already accusing him of stimulating white racists, motivating and encouraging them.
What I first accepted as incompetence I now think was an effort to maximize conflict between the two groups. I may be wrong. In his desperation to prevent the alt-right gathering, after the court ruled they could hold their protest, the governor may have felt it necessary to pull the only card that would allow him to stop the protest, even if he had to lie to support his emergency declaration. He may not have had anything to do with the bad decision to force the alt-right crowd to exit into the teeth of the Antifa mob, but there seem to be too many bad coincidental decisions for the situation not to have been purposeful.
My default bias is in favor of bad coincidental decisions over machinations, but I see your two scenarios.I see two scenarios because it would seem conspirators desperate to prevent an alt-right gathering from happening would be different from the conspirators wanting to push the groups together and spark a violent conflict.
Whenever I hear these conspiracy scenarios, though, they ring false because the conspirators would have to be master predictors of the future. I admire President Obama and George Soros, at least based on their books and public persona, and not only do I see them willing to engage in this skullduggery, I don't see them being able to predict that outcome would break in their favor.
Several unexpected things happened: Communication with BLM was poor, so not many of that group showed up. Antifa thugs are almost all white, so the video showed one bunch of white guys beating up another bunch of white guys, instead of the desired black-white confrontation; the stand down order prevented the police from stopping the driver of the murder vehicle from heading in the direction of the crowd (which the anonymous LEO said they could have done), and a white person was killed (instead of a black person); some of the supposedly friendly press (from NBC and the New York Times) actually reported what they saw, which supports the President's contention that there was guilt on both sides for the violence. Those news sources also reported that from their view, the clash between the groups could have been avoided. Neither news source speculated about the possibility the whole thing was staged.
This conspiracy theory is better than most because it doesn't argue the conspirators are super-powerful. In this theory, the conspiracy didn't play out exactly as planned, which makes more sense to me than conspiracies that go perfectly.
"guilt on both sides for the violence."
Stating it this way rests on the premise that there are two sides. I don't see that. IMHO this language was asinine on the part of President Trump. If there's any hidden agenda, I wondered if Trump might be trying to undermine the Republican party and/or people who want to keep the Confederate statues by suggesting the people marching under the Nazi banner were one "side". If we accept the "both sides" premise, most people want not to be on the Nazi side. I do not think it's a hidden agenda. I think Trump can't resist seeking attention, even if it inadvertently incites violence and undermines things he claims to support.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/world...
It would be more appropriate to remove the statists Lincoln and Roosevelt from Rushmore.
When they do, their fortunes rise and fall with the sentiments of the mob – however such mobs may be disguised.
Mobs cloaked in naked disguise, such as the KKK and various “supremacists.” Or the more cleverly disguised mobs on the left – given, through omission and commission, the far more effective disguise of "legitimacy."
Guess you used the delete option.
You people are delusional. I imagine you think the Sandy Hook shootings were a liberal plot as well.
"I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters." - Trump