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  • Posted by evlwhtguy 6 years, 8 months ago
    It is a sad comment on our society that the desires of a few crazy people....yes...Gender Dysphagia is a recognized mental disease by the handbook of the American Psychological association....has got everyone's garters in a knot. These people are disabled...because they are crazy...they have no place in the military and employers have every right to refuse to hire them. We can feel sorry for them....but they do not have a right to a spot in the military and working for any business that is rightfully concerned about what other crazy thing they might do. Businesses also have a responsibility to their customers as well.
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    • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 6 years, 8 months ago
      The only "handbook of the American Psychological Association" that I know of is the APA Style Guide which is a standard for writing papers for peer-reviewed scientific journals.

      You probably mean the DSM: the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of the American Psychiatric Association. (The other is the ICD the International Classification of Diseases maintained by the World Health Organization.) Those both also classified homosexuality as a disease or disorder.
      See https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/...
      "Meanwhile, the World Health Organization (WHO) only removed homosexuality from its ICD classification with the publication of ICD-10 in 1992, although ICD-10 still carries the construct of "ego-dystonic sexual orientation"."

      You have to take that all with a grain of salt, you know. The WHO is a UN agency.
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      • Posted by evlwhtguy 6 years, 8 months ago
        Your information sounds more accurate than mine...Yes...the homosexual are crazy too!. Doesn't mean we cant have sympathy for them and value them as fellow human beings....but it also doesn't mean we have to let them be boy scout leaders or cause chaos in the armed forces. The mentally deficient need to understand their limits and stop requiring the rest of us to bow down before them. We have rights too and their right to flail around and feel important end at my wallet.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 6 years, 8 months ago
    The mentally ill are unfit for the armed forces.
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      Posted by $ MikeMarotta 6 years, 8 months ago
      The stigma of "mental illness" is rooted in ignorance. It is like saying that people who have had a broken leg are not fit for the military. Someone's broken leg might render them so, but you cannot make a valid blanket statement like that. Your easy assertion is a glittering generality. It is also bait. Is someone supposed to say that the mentally ill are perfect for military service? Do you still beat your wife?

      The salient point is that people who change their sexual identity or their gender are not (necessarily) mentally ill, any more than are other people. The situations are not related.
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      • Posted by $ allosaur 6 years, 8 months ago
        In my old dino world view, a boy who thinks he is a girl and a girl who thinks she is a boy both have a mental problem.
        Just like A is A, B is B and G is G.
        0 is also 0 but I didn't do that.
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  • Posted by scojohnson 6 years, 8 months ago
    As an Air Force combat vet, I'll make a few first-hand observations. First, just because someone "wants" to serve, doesn't mean they will be accepted. It's a job application, there are stated job requirements. Unlike anywhere else, the military is not an EEO employer. They don't accept people over about 26 (or early 30s for Nat-Guards), won't take the chubbies, and citing their own examples -they would filter out anorexia or bulimia if uncovered. I suspect it would be quickly, the calorie-deficit of months of basic training would put an anorexic in the hospital and there isn't enough privacy to be trying to puke one's lungs out after every meal for months. Neither would have the strength to endure.

    I keep coming back to the obvious here... does a guy really want to put on a dress-blues skirt and try to "fit-in" with a very testosterone-heavy culture? This isn't the high school pep-rally squad, this is putting bombs on-target to kill people. Everything the Air Force (in my case) does, is to support that effort. It's not about building bases in Yakota to better understand the Japanese locals, it's about putting bombs on-target when called to do so.

    I know the cross-dressing women 'think' they fit-in. Newsflash, they don't. The strap-on thing across the chest is always a give-away, they have an "over male-up" appearance with the butch haircut, the jacket kind of hanging open, half the time cuffs at the jean ankles. It's guy-dress like your mom dressed you. Ultimately, I always look at the shoe-size if in-doubt, they can't hide that.

    I'm not being discriminatory here, I'm only pointing out the obvious. Is this really a problem that is deserving of a national debate? I think Trump just said "this is really, really stupid, nope, we're done here".

    The US has averaged 3% veteran over it's history. That means 97% don't want to, were afraid to, or were turned-down.
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    • Posted by bittersweet 6 years, 8 months ago
      I definitely agree with you SCOJOHNSON.
      Though I think their appearance and the way they dress in civilian clothes is mostly irrelevant.
      As a female in the Army, (and not a butch lol) I did not think not having the level of testosterone of a man was a hindrance to doing my job well. Actually females were generally much better at my job (briefings, interrogations, and source operations).
      Women are, on average, just better at taking to people, empathizing, bringing down a person's guards, and building rapport. But there are also many jobs in the military that men, on average, are much better at, like infantry.
      A big issue that I saw in the short 4 years I was active, was when a person would try so hard to be what they weren't because they wanted to 'destroy stereotypes'. They rarely had any success, wasted the natural talents they did have, and became a weak link.
      It is clearly a mental health problem to 'believe' you are a man when you have two x chromosomes. As Ayn Rand puts it: "Contradictions do not exist. Whenever you think you are facing a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong." This mental illness is also a weakness that affect military readiness and unit cohesion.
      The culture of the military that I saw, I wouldn't attribute to testosterone, because females generally had the same mentality. The root of the problem is weakness.
      Anytime a unit sees weakness in a person, they will fight against it, because of the life and death consequences they can face tomorrow. With the goal that either that weak link will beak before they are downrange, or it will get stronger, that will use any tactic available to them ranging from making derogatory jokes even up (though more rare these days) blanket parties. If a soldier is over weight or fails PT standards, for example, the relentless poking and prodding can, though sometimes painful, encourage them to work harder at meeting the standard.
      Gender dysphoria doesn't work this way. Most need professional help and a great deal of time to overcome or deal with their issues, generally focused on bringing their thoughts and feelings into line with reality instead of trying to accomplish the impossible of shaping reality into how they 'feel' it should be.
      'Biology isn't bigotry.' With the high suicide rate in the military and the enormous suicide rate among the trans community, (who are 19x more likely to die of suicide) it would be reckless and cruel to put them into a combat zone. By far, the most mentality and physically stressful situation imaginable.
      Above even these issues, is the one you brought up first, the job requirements.
      The mission of the US military is to win wars and protect the nation. That means being combat ready at all times.
      But soldiers who have “transitioned” medically require regular hormone treatments and follow-up visits after sex-reassignment surgery and are not deployable. What rational sense does it make for the military to accept a person into it's ranks, only to pay obscene amounts of money for that soldier's medical expenses that's goal is to make that soldier useless to the military?
      Every argument in favor of it is based solely on feelings and a denial of reality. Maybe one day more research and advances in the mental health field and a deeper knowledge of gender dysphoria will produce more options that solve some of these issues.
      But I agree with the article, considering the relatively little that is understood and agreed upon about Gender dysphoria, the military is not the place to experiment with people's lives.
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    • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 6 years, 8 months ago
      Actually, you are wrong about a couple of facts. First of all, while obesity is a problem, the military does take "chubbies" as you call them. You get weighed and measured and if you can be expected to benefit from basic training, in you go. Also, "military service" is not just combat. The State Defense Forces accept people past the ages of the combat forces. Here in Texas you can serve until you are 70. In Vermont, it is 80. Similarly, our age-based physical requirements are very real, but not at Ranger or SEAL level, nor do they need to be. By comparison, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration is a military organization of the federal government. They just do not carry weapons. The Public Health Service is another non-combat military organization of the federal government.

      Your rant against anyone who wants to serve in a "very testosterone heavy culture" ignores the fact that women do serve, serve in combat, and serve with distinction. Your sleight against them weakens whatever point of fact it was that you thought you had in support of your assertions.
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      • Posted by scojohnson 6 years, 8 months ago
        You are kind of highlighting your ignorance on the topic. National Guards are managed by the individual states, and report to the governor in the state. The US Government has nothing to do with it other than will fund the cost if they nationalize the unit and deploy them with Active Duty. Speaking from experience, we had zero interest in National Guard help when I was active... but that was a long time ago. Yes, they showed up, we had them watch training modules or something. They usually did state-side services to replace the Active Duty and Reservists deployed to theatre.

        The Uniformed Public Health Service does not report to the Pentagon or the DoD... it's under the US Surgeon General, it reports to Health & Human Services.

        NOAA? Yeah, not military. It reports to the US Department of Commerce.

        I very clearly stated that women do serve honorably and in combat, the issue is whether or not the DoD has the time to deal with psychological issues like gender dysphoria, anorexia, or bulimia, and the answer is a universal "no". Only 3% serve, many, many are disqualified or don't desire to. Being confused about the biology of ones' body is but one of many reasons, in addition to "flat feet" or prior back injuries.
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        • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 6 years, 8 months ago
          If you said that women do serve honorably and in combat, then I missed that. I did read this from you: "I know the cross-dressing women 'think' they fit-in. Newsflash, they don't. The strap-on thing across the chest is always a give-away, they have an "over male-up" appearance with the butch haircut, the jacket kind of hanging open, half the time cuffs at the jean ankles. It's guy-dress like your mom dressed you. Ultimately, I always look at the shoe-size if in-doubt, they can't hide that."

          It is pretty clear to me from that that you think that women who serve are butch lesbians trying to be men. And they may be, but that does not mean that they cannot serve honorably no matter what their MOIS. My command unit is small, but I know one woman like that, buzz cut and all. She's a good soldier and I would serve with her any time. I accept her as she is because her work speaks for her.

          Your experience with the National Guard must have been before GWAT: the Global War Against Terrorism 2001-Present.
          http://www.military.com/daily-news/20...
          http://taskandpurpose.com/citizen-sol...
          https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2003...
          Do your own googling to find National Guard in active combat.

          One of my National Guard officers who did two tours in Iraq and one in Afghanistan speaks up for the State Defense Forces (Texas State Guard). "Were you ever deployed?" (yes) "Do you remember how the Big Green treated you?" (yeah) "That's how you are disrespecting the State Guard." In fact, in my office of eight only the two of us in the TXSG are not combat veterans. All of the NG are.

          The Public Health Service carry naval officer ranks.
          The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration carry naval officer and enlisted ranks.
          They just do not carry weapons.
          They are nonetheless military organizations of the federal government.

          You are on-target with the fact that only 3% (maximum) of the US population ever served in the military. That is the core of my post here in the Gulch, asking, "Do You Know Your Military?"
          https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post...
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  • Posted by 6 years, 8 months ago
    When I published the article, I considered using this as a "box," but decided I have enough information in one place. This is the official statement of the American College of Pediatrics:

    Gender Ideology Harms Children
    Updated May 2017

    The American College of Pediatricians urges healthcare professionals, educators and legislators to reject all policies that condition children to accept as normal a life of chemical and surgical impersonation of the opposite sex. Facts – not ideology – determine reality.

    1. Human sexuality is an objective biological binary trait: “XY” and “XX” are genetic markers of male and female, respectively – not genetic markers of a disorder. The norm for human design is to be conceived either male or female. Human sexuality is binary by design with the obvious purpose being the reproduction and flourishing of our species. This principle is self-evident. The exceedingly rare disorders of sex development (DSDs), including but not limited to testicular feminization and congenital adrenal hyperplasia, are all medically identifiable deviations from the sexual binary norm, and are rightly recognized as disorders of human design. Individuals with DSDs (also referred to as “intersex”) do not constitute a third sex.1

    2. No one is born with a gender. Everyone is born with a biological sex. Gender (an awareness and sense of oneself as male or female) is a sociological and psychological concept; not an objective biological one. No one is born with an awareness of themselves as male or female; this awareness develops over time and, like all developmental processes, may be derailed by a child’s subjective perceptions, relationships, and adverse experiences from infancy forward. People who identify as “feeling like the opposite sex” or “somewhere in between” do not comprise a third sex. They remain biological men or biological women.2,3,4

    3. A person’s belief that he or she is something they are not is, at best, a sign of confused thinking. When an otherwise healthy biological boy believes he is a girl, or an otherwise healthy biological girl believes she is a boy, an objective psychological problem exists that lies in the mind not the body, and it should be treated as such. These children suffer from gender dysphoria. Gender dysphoria (GD), formerly listed as Gender Identity Disorder (GID), is a recognized mental disorder in the most recent edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of the American Psychiatric Association (DSM-V).5 The psychodynamic and social learning theories of GD/GID have never been disproved.2,4,5

    4. Puberty is not a disease and puberty-blocking hormones can be dangerous. Reversible or not, puberty- blocking hormones induce a state of disease – the absence of puberty – and inhibit growth and fertility in a previously biologically healthy child.6

    5. According to the DSM-V, as many as 98% of gender confused boys and 88% of gender confused girls eventually accept their biological sex after naturally passing through puberty.5

    6. Pre-pubertal children diagnosed with gender dysphoria may be given puberty blockers as young as eleven, and will require cross-sex hormones in later adolescence to continue impersonating the opposite sex. These children will never be able to conceive any genetically related children even via articifial reproductive technology. In addition, cross-sex hormones (testosterone and estrogen) are associated with dangerous health risks including but not limited to cardiac disease, high blood pressure, blood clots, stroke, diabetes, and cancer.7,8,9,10,11

    7. Rates of suicide are nearly twenty times greater among adults who use cross-sex hormones and undergo sex reassignment surgery, even in Sweden which is among the most LGBTQ – affirming countries.12 What compassionate and reasonable person would condemn young children to this fate knowing that after puberty as many as 88% of girls and 98% of boys will eventually accept reality and achieve a state of mental and physical health?

    8. Conditioning children into believing a lifetime of chemical and surgical impersonation of the opposite sex is normal and healthful is child abuse. Endorsing gender discordance as normal via public education and legal policies will confuse children and parents, leading more children to present to “gender clinics” where they will be given puberty-blocking drugs. This, in turn, virtually ensures they will “choose” a lifetime of carcinogenic and otherwise toxic cross-sex hormones, and likely consider unnecessary surgical mutilation of their healthy body parts as young adults.

    Michelle A. Cretella, M.D.
    President of the American College of Pediatricians

    Quentin Van Meter, M.D.
    Vice President of the American College of Pediatricians
    Pediatric Endocrinologist

    Paul McHugh, M.D.
    University Distinguished Service Professor of Psychiatry at Johns Hopkins Medical School and the former psychiatrist in chief at Johns Hopkins Hospital
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    • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 6 years, 8 months ago
      ... and another thing... if those savants said that egoism is a disorder, would you quote them? What we have here is another example of why evidence is never enough. Basically, your mind is made up and you find the authorities to support your claim. (Research Paper #205: Cultural Cognition of Scientific Consensus by Dan M. Kahan, Hank Jenkins-Smith and Donald Braman." Review here: http://necessaryfacts.blogspot.com/20... )

      To me, this comes down to individuals. You have to take each person as you find them. Judge each person according to the content of their character.
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    • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 6 years, 8 months ago
      Thank you for the citation to authority and those facts are certainly to be considered by anyone thinking of changing their sex or gender.

      This is all very complicated and deserves investigation based on reality and guided by reason.

      I have said here several times that sex is genetic and gender is social. Even so, sex exists on a spectrum. It is not binary XY XX. We know XYY and XXY. And we also know that while chromosomes carry genes, genes may be expressed or not. The analogy I have is to the public library. The building contains the books. The political institution control the building and its uses and functions, but the content of the books, etc., is a totally different context. So, too, with genes and chromosomes.

      Epigenetics suggests much that mere chromosome-counting cannot address.

      The problem with binary thinking is that it can lead to false stereotypes, such as that a real man must have a hairy chest and that a real woman must have a soprano voice.

      No one is attempting to "condition children into ... a lifetime of chemical and surgical impersonation." Some people are just born that way, in the middle this way or that. In fact, as with height, weight, eye color, and much else, I think that we all exhibit points along spectrums in whatever parameter or dimension you can measure.

      And that assumes that measurement is really possible.

      Everything you said about sex, also applies to race. Should we let white children grow up acting like negroes? Do you naturally recoil in disgust when you see a colored child acting white? Gender is the new race.

      A hundred years ago, all of biological science (it seemed) was 100% certain that races exist, that they have different potentials, different attributes, etc. That you could measure on a scale how Caucasian the Alpine person was versus the Nordic or Celtic?
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 6 years, 8 months ago
    Transgendered people are medically dependent, meaning they must take medication to support their changed condition. The military currently bans medically dependent people, like diabetics, from enlisting, even though there are some very athletic diabetics in that community. The same should hold for transgenders.
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    • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 6 years, 8 months ago
      It is not true, Dr Z, that the military bans medically dependent people.**Prosthetics Keep Amputee Soldiers on Active Duty."
      https://www.army.mil/article/182626/i...

      In my task force we have people with eye glasses and hearing aids. We have people who "denied their genetically determined eyesight" and got the military to pay for expensive surgery to correct their vision.

      You are a pretty smart guy, Doctor. Sleep on this problem...
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      • Posted by DrZarkov99 6 years, 8 months ago
        Amputees, nearsighted people, and the hearing impaired do not require prescribed life supporting medication on a continuing basis. It's the idea that a military member may be in a situation where the medication is unavailable, and the effect that lack of support may have on them that restricts people like diabetics from serving. People who develop these kind of conditions after enlistment are supported, but usually restricted in the kind of career they can have. You can have surgery to correct your eyesight, but can't become eligible for pilot training afterward. Gender reassignment surgery is extremely expensive (about twenty times the cost of vision correcting surgery), so part of the reason for the transgender restriction is to keep costs under control. If a condition is considered to have been due to the environment the individual experienced while in service, surgery is authorized. I had cataract surgery in my 30s, and the diagnosis was the condition was brought on by my continued exposure to high power electrical equipment. I don't think the gender confused could make the claim the service caused their condition.
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  • Posted by dmshuler 6 years, 8 months ago
    I tend to be of the opinion that if an individual has undergone surgery and is biologically a "look alike" and the psychology of the situation has been addressed, it shouldn't be an issue if the individual can pass muster (forgive the pun). I know that, genetically we are the sex that we are regardless of what we look like or feel like but I would spare the member serving alongside someone who hasn't made a full transition AND spare the taxpayers the high cost of such things.

    I am curious if any of you know what Ayn herself may have ever said/written on this particular issue -- or around the idea of someone not accepting their own biology.
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  • Posted by mia767ca 6 years, 8 months ago
    transgendered individuals have the same rights as any individual...no more...no less...should be treated no differently...it is your life to do with as you choose as long as you do not violate the rights of other individuals...
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  • Posted by 6 years, 8 months ago
    All provocative and useful comments. I get the idea some of you might not have read the whole article, which was only partly about the military and much more about the trans-gender and trans-sexual movement itself. Some of the statistics there, although statistics in this field are endlessly disputed, suggest that the overwhelming amount if not all gender "dysphoria" passes normally after the adolescent years. Remember that some of the reasons given against trans-gender individuals serving in the military come not from Trump, or government, but the Heritage Foundation commentator. Trump's reasons were that military medical care provides free all medically approved operations (and trans-gender surgery is now approved as was once frontal lobotomy) so we are talking millions of dollars for men and women who want to switch while in the military. The other reason was battle readiness, since pre- and post-trans-sexual surgery the patient requires continuing massive hormone injections.
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    • Posted by Riftsrunner 6 years, 8 months ago
      I am also a bit of a cynic and while I see a vast majority of people joining the military as doing it to serve and protect this great nation, I believe some might see claiming trangenderism as a way to stay out of harm's way when the situation got out of hand. They don't necessarily need to start the treatments to transition, but would 'require' counseling and other accommodations that would keep them from being deployed on the frontlines. They would need to be assign where they could receive 'treatment' to help them mentally with their possible future transition. After they serve their time, they could be discharged honorably and miraculously become cured and never need to worry about being placed in danger of losing their life. Again, the cynic in me.
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    • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 6 years, 8 months ago
      I agree that changing one's sex or gender is a complicated topic. It is about more than military service. This discussion, however, was launched on that narrower problem.
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    • Posted by CircuitGuy 6 years, 8 months ago
      "I get the idea some of you might not have read the whole article,"
      I went back in read it because the first time I skimmed the end, thinking it was just expounding on motivation #1. I now see the article is more about the phenomenon of gender identity than President Trump's motivations. It's patently obvious to me he wasn't going through the federal budget looking for a place to save a few million dollars or for practices that affect readiness. It's his usual political attention-seeking stunt.

      You point out that the second half of the article is about gender identity itself. I struggle to understand it. It seems to me we've swung back toward accepting gender roles. It seems like my parents' generation told us there were no such things as toys, activities, or jobs just for boys or girls. Now it seems like we've gone back to gender roles, and if your interests are things associated with the opposite sex, you're trans-gender, instead of just a boy who happens to be into dolls and dancing or whatever. People with gender identity issues should be free to explore it. My kids know people who are trans-gender. I don't fully get it. Sometimes people who are 20 even make me uncomfortable because I cannot tell if they identify as male or female. I think some people fee this discomfort much stronger and are inclined to get fired up about this issue. To me, it's more of a reminder that I'm over 40.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 6 years, 8 months ago
    Should an organization select the people who are best qualified for the job description or shouldn't they? Is gender confusion any less likely to interfere with performance on the battlefield as flat feet?
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    • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 6 years, 8 months ago
      There's a bit more to it than best qualified. Living in a birthing area with more than 50 other men for a portion of my life (3 high bunk beds) there is a level of community and social interaction that is unavoidable.

      I served during don't ask, don't tell. A respectful solution that wouldn't work for transgendered. Frankly, I wouldn't want to shower with or around it, nor would I expect women (I did not serve on board with female sailors) these days to wish to accommodate it either.
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      • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 6 years, 8 months ago
        Read the DoD policy. No one is being forced to shower with a woman (as if that would be bad). I cannot find now whether it was Steve Russell (R-OK) or Duncan Hunter (R-CA), both veterans, but one of them was adamant about not wanting to be forced to do that. In fact, SecDef's policy is that you have your birth gender right up to the last cut or paste, at which point all of your records are changed and you assume your new gender among your gender.

        We just went through this briefing last month. I got a copy of the Public Affairs Office slide deck so that I could comment on them, but I was cautioned not to release them as a set.

        Gender is the new race. We are not yet over that one, but we are getting there...
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        • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 6 years, 8 months ago
          There's quite a bit more to what I wrote than a simple, distasteful shower. While I havent read the policy, I don't need to in order to understand the intimacy living on a ship demands. This lack of personal space and privacy may be different for other branches of service but it doesn't change the reality that the brass making policy do not need to live with that policy, just as their lives do not have to depend on unit cohesion and integrity
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          • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 6 years, 8 months ago
            People have all kinds of personal habits that are hard to live with. Learning to live with other people is part of being in close quarters. I did basic training sleeping next to a guy who farted all night. I did not see him again until we had advanced non-com together. "Can I bunk here?" What am I going to say? "Sure..." What are buddies for?
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          • Posted by hattrup 6 years, 8 months ago
            These concerns seem at least similar, if not identical, to the same ones many would bring up regarding mixing race or religion.
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            • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 6 years, 8 months ago
              Lets just say I'm glad I chose to serve when I did and would not recommend anyone I know to serve today.

              I also lived with different races and religions during that time, there is a difference.
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            • Posted by Riftsrunner 6 years, 8 months ago
              Yeah, but like those situations it is a matter of education to allow exception. I would daresay it will take a generation or two to die off before universal acceptance can begin to be achieved. Any child born recently will grow up with this understanding and will thus be more accepting and consider it more normal.
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              • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 6 years, 8 months ago
                I see what you mean.

                "When an opponent declares, “I will not come over to your side,” I calmly say, “Your child belongs to us already… What are you? You will pass on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing else but this new community.”

                Adolf Hitler
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 6 years, 8 months ago
    "Five transgender service members serving on active duty sued President Donald Trump on Wednesday over his directive to ban them from the U.S. military. ... The unnamed service members, who are referred to as “Jane Doe,” are serving in the Air Force, Army and the Coast Guard. Some have served as long as two decades, including tours in Iraq and Afghanistan. ... Trump’s directive was criticized by 56 retired U.S. generals and admirals last week, who argued that the ban “would cause significant disruptions, deprive the military of mission-critical talent, and compromise the integrity of transgender troops.”
    http://taskandpurpose.com/active-duty...
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  • Posted by dwlievert 6 years, 8 months ago
    AUBURN, CA—Local 36-year-old Nate Ripley, who self-identifies as a six-year-old, “absolutely crushed” a game-winning homer at a local tee-ball game and won the championship for his team Monday evening, reports confirmed.

    Ripley reportedly walked up to the plate in the bottom of the 6th, pointed his bat toward the left-field wall looming 130 feet in the distance, and let her rip, sending the ball rocketing over the fence and into an adjacent parking garage as the fans cheered and his coach yelled out, “Attaboy, Nate! Good job, bud!”

    His team, the Lil’ Padres, attempted to hoist him up on their shoulders in celebration of their great victory over the favored Tiny Tigers, but owing to Nate’s 230 pounds, were unable to do so.

    Ripley’s remarkable achievements come at the end of a momentous tee-ball season in which the self-identified six-year-old shattered every record set prior to that point. Nate ended his season with a 1000 batting average, 52 home runs, and incredible showings at first base, second base, shortstop, third base, and pitcher. The tee-ball prodigy is being hailed as an inspiration to other six-year-olds everywhere.
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    • Posted by Dobrien 6 years, 8 months ago
      Ripley's believe it or not. LOL.
      Sorry no winners or recognition of achievement,
      everyone gets a participation award, oh and no attaboy that is inferring a gender.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 6 years, 8 months ago
    Here in Cal we like to first subject our school kids to everything. So, don't worry...we first foisted the bathrooms on the kids in the elementary schools and there were no riots. So, just accept it. and don't be a party pooper.
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  • Posted by philosophercat 6 years, 8 months ago
    They must be kept out as they use the military as a free ride for their extensive and expensive medical, surgical, and mental costs. Their attention is not on their job but their psychological misfit with their bodies. WHo wants to see the VA paying the lifetime costs of drug addicts and surgical cross dressers?
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    • Posted by H2ungar123 6 years, 8 months ago
      Couldn't agree more with the question re: the VA
      having to pay for drug addicts and surgically-
      enhanced people. Charge Bernie Sanders; he's all
      for free goodies (free tuition, etc).
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  • Posted by 6 years, 8 months ago
    I hope some of you will check out my new book about Trump on Amazon. Without strong social media support, a book like this has little chance against the exclusionary policies of the mainstream media. Also, you may really enjoy it. David Kelley called a "paradigm of what Ayn Rand called philosophical detection."
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  • Posted by wiggys 6 years, 8 months ago
    I find this interesting knowing the trump grew up in nyc the gay capitol of the world that he would not just accept this is the way things are. he MUST know dozens of gay and some transgender people.
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 6 years, 8 months ago
    As much as I relate to your fine poetry, I have to disagree with your opinion on this. My understanding is that while eating disorders are learned reactions to stress, gender is genetic and on a spectrum. ("Eating disorders" so-called are also on a spectrum. I am not a foodie. I weigh 133 lbs and if I could, I would take a Nutrient Pill and skip the pre-processed garbage. But, hey, who doesn't like a pepperoni pizza?)

    Much about us is like that, but without the social noise. We have 6.5 billion humans. We have single cities with more people than existed at the end of the last ice age. The numbers allow a lot of variants to pop up, geniuses for instance. We can stack Nobel laureates like cord wood.

    In my criminology program, I worked a summer of community college campus patrols with a young guy ahead of me. He had finished his BS at the U, and was back at WCC to attend the police academy. He was born with a cleft palate. It was more or less repaired for most of his life, but once he got hired, his agency fixed it proper. It was worth it to them to get a superior achiever. (He graduated second in his class. "They told me that I would not have time to work and do homework. So I just don't do the homework.") Just sayin'... What if the issue were the monetary costs and social friction of having hare-lips among normal people?
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    • Posted by $ blarman 6 years, 8 months ago
      "My understanding is that ... gender is genetic and on a spectrum."

      There is zero spectrum in XX vs XY. It is a binary option. Does one really become a woman even though one's chromosomes say XY? No. One can distort one's body through surgery or chemicals, but can that person bear children? No. And the XX is no easier to manipulate to make a person capable of fathering children. The choice is to accept reality or to attempt to deny it. Personally, I don't listen to the lunatics in the asylum trying to tell me they're just fine.
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      • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 6 years, 8 months ago
        I apologize for not being clear. I have said here often that sex is genetic and gender is social. This time, my statement was meant to address the fact that both gender and sex exist along at least one spectrum (maybe more). See my comments to Walter above. Chromosomes carry genes, but genes are expressed or not. Epigenetics indicates that there is more to genetics than counting chromosomes.
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        • Posted by $ blarman 6 years, 8 months ago
          This isn't a matter of "expression", but of presence of a gene in the first place. It isn't something one can invent or alter by force of will. No one can pretend to express a non-existent gene or completely override an existing one.

          If you want to go along with people who want to pretend to live in their dream world, that's your choice. To me, they need serious psychological counseling and a re-examination of their premises to help them deal with reality.
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    • Posted by Dobrien 6 years, 8 months ago
      Most of your statement is filled with words irrelevant to the discussion. Oh and congratulations on your lack of appetite.
      So called transgendered individuals are mentally ill
      The facts show suicidal tendencies are through the roof with these folks. Your all inclusive attitude
      Ignores the chief mission of the US military. The mission is not to make everyone welcome. The mission of our armed forces is winning wars and protecting the nation. We must prioritize military readiness and mission-critical purposes first.
      Just like all the training and education in your security/criminology career it was designed to help you perform your job it was not to make everybody feel good or accepted.
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    • Posted by CircuitGuy 6 years, 8 months ago
      "It was worth it to them to get a superior achiever. "
      [Sarcasm]Maybe the president is looking into the issue of cleft plate surgery. After that he will examining of keeping service members who develop high blood pressure before age 30.[/Sarcasm]
      I think there's nothing real about this. We're trying to have a normal, intelligent discussion about something that is not real. I don't think there was ever a real problem. I don't the president is taking action to change anything.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 6 years, 8 months ago
    The article offers three interpretations. Interpretation #2, IMHO, is correct.
    1. It's a response to an actual issue in the military or difficulty having open discussion about gender. - I am almost sure it solves no military issues, does not foster open discourse about gender, and it has nothing whatsoever to do with real issues.

    2. Kicking over a hornets' nest to get attention and possibly distract attention from something else. - I think it's the kicking over a hornets' nest for its own sake, not to distract from something else. You suggest it's to distract from the Russia investigation. My gut feeling is President Trump didn't do anything wrong with regard to Russia, and the investigation will find no wrongdoing, except maybe technicalities. "Russia" is like "Benghazi" was for Republicans. Democrats just say the name as if it were an epithet and naming a location somehow condemns the president. "Can you believe how crooked President Trump is? I mean, Russia!!" I suspect President Trump is innocent and could just let his critics carry on, which would show they don't have any actual policy ideas. He kicks over hornets nests because stirring up trouble to get attention is main skill in life. He's thinking up something right now that you and I can't think of that will get people all fired up. We could try to come up with something attention-seeking to do, but he's a master and will find something with a higher outrage-to-importance ratio than anything anyone else can.

    3. Opposition to post-modernism - I think President Trump is the ugly end-result of post-modernism. I don't think he opposes it. I think he's an exemplar.
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