Company Microchips Employees

Posted by $ MikeMarotta 6 years, 8 months ago to Business
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It is only wrong if the government does it.

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  • Posted by $ Abaco 6 years, 8 months ago
    I watched the news story as I got dressed for work this morning. I was mouth-agape in shock. The "owner" of the company sounded like a big, dumb ape. This is coming, folks.
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  • Posted by $ Susanne 6 years, 8 months ago
    This seems to me it could be quite the slippery slope - where an employer, as a condition of employment (it's currently "optional", however to access the computer terminal or get in the door, you must waive your chip for entrance) requiring a bioelectronics foreign body to be introduced into your body as a condition of employment?

    Notice how, now, it's being sold as "what a wonderful convenience for your employees"... Use the commissary, get into our secured work area, access your computer"... but, like the convenience of having your pet chipped, what happens when it becomes mandatory for things like your phone to work, your cashless society money cards to work, even to allow (or disallow) you into certain places... to find out where you were, to make sure you're not congregating with people who are potentially unscrupulous or questionable...

    But YOU know you're a good person, and you have NOTHING to hide, so why NOT get the chip... unless you're hiding something... hmmm....
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  • Posted by $ pixelate 6 years, 8 months ago
    There are the two sides here ... the two perspectives... the overt and the covert.
    It reminds me of the implementation of the payroll tax 75 years ago...
    The overt reason was to make things simpler for the employee ... "look, you no longer have to pay taxes with a check quarterly, annually, etc... We are doing this for you."
    Of course the covert reason was to hide the taxation ... out of sight, out of mind.
    When a person writes a check 'Pay to the Order of...' there is a thinking process involved... for me, the thought is "am I receiving equal or greater value for the sum that I am paying?'
    Even 75 years later ... folks say "well, we all have to pay our taxes" -- however, words have meaning. We have not been paying taxes; rather, the taxes are confiscated.
    The same goes for this embedded chip technology / implementation.
    The overt reason will ring with the sound of 'We are doing this as a convenience to our employees.'
    The covert reason, of course, is far less charitable.
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  • Posted by wiggys 6 years, 8 months ago
    if I worked there, I would be looking for a new job if they didn't chose to accept me not getting chipped. I would also look into a starting a law suit big time.
    the ceo needs to look down the front end of a firing squad if he didn't end the order.
    and you don't think the country has died only people don't want to accept it.
    the next step will be micro chipping every baby at birth.
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  • Posted by evlwhtguy 6 years, 8 months ago
    We are already all tagged...that smart phone you carry does the same thing. I was horrified to log in to my google account and see EVERYWHERE I HAD BEEN FOR THE LAST 2 YEARS! Holy crap! The government could easily use that info to tax me for road use, My company could keep tabs on me, reconcile the mileage on my expense report...who knows what. I chose not to delete the info as I may need it one day to account for my whereabouts...but WTHeck! I knew such a thing was possible...but seeing it is something else entirely.
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  • Posted by chad 6 years, 8 months ago
    When these RFID chips first came out I informed my kids that the government would be very interested in using them to monitor and ultimately control people. They scoffed at the idea and said no one would ever want one. I told them that at first it wouldn't be mandatory they would let people decide to use them on their own, offer shorter check in lines at airports or other travel oriented agencies and people would volunteer until the majority were injected then it would become mandatory for the remainder. The ACA requires that all citizens will be required to have their medical records with them at all times. At first the RFID's had to be close to be scanned but the scanning tools are now able to scan at a distance of several hundred yards, a police car could drive by your house and know who your guests are. Everywhere you go you will be monitored, you are now with your phone but you can turn that off, remove the battery or leave it behind if you desire. I don't know many people that would leave home without their hands. Eventually the chip will be inserted at time of birth providing the state with all its required identification and tracking data. It used to be that you didn't apply for a social security number until you applied for your first job. Then later if you wanted to claim your children on your tax form you had to get them their identifier number. Now it is issued at birth and a required part of the documentation process required by the 'state' and it won't be long before the RFID will be required. Any government that wants to track its citizens frightens me. It has always been the desire of every tyrannical state but the methods were always cumbersome and avoidable. This will not be avoidable. It won't be a TV as in earlier dystopian novels, it will be you that provides the monitoring.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 6 years, 8 months ago
    Now, all micro chipped persons line up on the right in alphabetical order with your change ready. Those micro chipped may return to their cubicles. Those wanting to use the water dispenser line up alphabetically on the left. Those wanting to use the rest rooms line up behind Ms. MacGillicuddy, in reverse alphabet order and follow her. Anyone not complying will be docked one hour's wage for every minute not in compliance.

    The Workplace Of Tomorrow!
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 6 years, 8 months ago
    "but are they safe for your personal data?"...This was the first thing I thought of...not to mention, (which I will mention), is their quantum identity will no longer be human.
    Also, while flying through a localized radio blackout, exposure to a microwave or solar storm, that grain of rice will be decimated...I can not think of a way to protect those electronics...not even a metal glove.
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  • Posted by Riftsrunner 6 years, 8 months ago
    What is tripping me up is in a country with such a huge population of Christians, that no one is screaming mark of the beast from Revelations. Not that many of them are very literate in their holy book. My question is what happens when you leave their employment? Do they slice the chip out? Or does it need replacement every few years? Because I am sorry, I don't want any type of tech implanted that can track my movement, especially after I no longer work for my former employer.
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    • Posted by LaMuse 6 years, 8 months ago
      After reading all the comments regarding this practice, it was surprising to see so many people referring to this as "the mark of the beast" and the realization of events described in the book of revelation. I was dumbfounded by the amount of people who are sloughing this off as religious prophecy instead of what it actually is - government tyranny. One of the comments I read even made the observation that for those who refuse, a chip may be inadvertently placed somewhere in your body while undergoing some type of surgical procedure. Yikes!
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      • Posted by $ allosaur 6 years, 8 months ago
        That prophecy is about tyranny. Revelations states that those who do not take the mark don't get to buy food to eat.
        Christians will also be beheaded and here we have another very interesting correlation with modern events.
        Me dino ain't preaching. Just telling you what's written.
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      • Posted by Eyecu2 6 years, 8 months ago
        In this case why can't it be both at the same time. Whether you are a believer in Christianity or not, you have to admit that the book of Revelation is a prophecy of future events. Language in prophecy is always clouded in meaning and open to interpretation. Obviously some will accept this and some won't. But this is something that Christians would certainly interpret in this manner. Agree or not with a Christian's faith they still make up a majority of the people in this country and this plays right into their mindset.
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    • Posted by $ allosaur 6 years, 8 months ago
      Yeah, me dino is a dictionary definition mystic who once read The Late Great Planet Earth way back during the 80s. It's not hard to imagine the first thing that popped into my mind.
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  • Posted by term2 6 years, 8 months ago
    I have thought that it would be a lot more efficient if employees had tattoos and electronically logged into their jobs instead of time cards. The implanted chip seems even more efficient.

    ALTHOUGH, we have little RFID key fobs, and they dont ALWAYS work !!!! Then what....
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  • Posted by NealS 6 years, 8 months ago
    According to reports, this is not a tracking device, other than the ability to know how many times you used the coffee machine, what time of day, and perhaps what you put in it, from data gather at the other end. It is nothing more than carrying a credit card or wearing or carrying an ID badge. The company is actually promoting a concept and a product idea that probably will take off, much like Starbuck's. We will bitch and complain about it, kick it around, and eventually just be "chipped" up behind the head at the base of the skull at birth. Heck, it might even create some more government agencies to keep it under control (and to track our ever movement).

    We probably won't have much say and eventually everyone will be tracked. Today I get in my car and wonder why it won't start. Then I realize I have the wrong FOB in my pocket, it's for the other car, and the one that still takes a key confuses me. I volunteered to allow my insurance company to install a tracker, keeps track of route, time, speed, braking, fast starts, stops, etc., but they promised it's only for research, they will only use the data for research and not to adjust my rates. They do give me a 5% insurance discount for it. Hmmm, I wonder, but then again do I care? And it ticked off my wife off when I "once" went online to see where she's been. One day I asked her why she had to drive around McDonald's when she said she was just going to the bank. I'll never ever do that again, if you know what I mean (and some of do even if won't admit it).
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 6 years, 8 months ago
    I do not have a problem with people making agreements that involve having an RFID tag implanted.

    It sounds odd. I'm not an early adopter. I personally would not be interested in paying to have someone have a tag or being paid to wear a tag.

    I do not understand the indignation about it. People make far odder and more unsavory arrangements. I do not want to stand in anyone's way of providing one another whatever they want.
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    • Posted by $ Abaco 6 years, 8 months ago
      " I do not want to stand in anyone's way of providing one another whatever they want." Well, the next step will likely be a requirement to get chipped or lose your job, not get your drivers license, not get your social security, etc. I hope I'm wrong.
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      • Posted by CircuitGuy 6 years, 8 months ago
        "lose your job, not get your drivers license, not get your social security, etc"
        I think of job in a different category from driver's license (DL) and Social Security (SS). You need a SSN to comply with federal law, to get your own money back, and to do so many things it was never intended for. Most of the country is set up so you need a DL.

        So if the gov't says you must do this to get an SSN or DL, they're basically making you do it.

        A job is different though. It's just people helping one another for money. People can come up with all kinds of weird requirements for what type of employee / employer they're looking for.

        I have heard of these stories where there is one big employer in town, and people feel beholden to it. I haven't personally experienced anything like that. The jobs I've seen have been freely agreed arrangements. It feels like technology is making it even more so, even easier for people on both sides to compare and decide if they want to be in a particular employee/employer arrangement.
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