Meat Puppets

Posted by Herb7734 6 years, 10 months ago to Entertainment
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Did you ever notice how many of the best actors are idiots when they don't have a script.? I don't mean the actors you never heard of, but top-line people who can really act, like Johnny Depp, Meryl Streep, and Robert DiNiro. Give them a script and you are pretty much guaranteed a good or even excellent performance.However, without a script a garbled, often incomprehensible, bunch of twaddle emanates from their lips.. They remind me of ventriloquist's dummies, only instead of wood and paint, they are made of flesh and blood.They purport to be human --- but are they? I guess Shakespeare had them down some hundreds of years ago, "Full of sound and fury, signifying, nothing."


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  • Posted by Dobrien 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I collected a poster of the meat puppets that night way back and hoped they would be a big hit so the poster would become valuable, No such luck.
    A poster of Nirvanna from back in the day is valuable.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Me dino LOL when I read that but went on another hunt right after I did that. Nirvana sings/plays that hit of theirs better.
    I generally listen to rock when Rush or someone similar goes to commercial. Old dino is not all that sharp on the bands anymore.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTWKb... .
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  • Posted by freedomforall 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I choose not to support the work of people that use their power to destroy what I value. I do so relish your irrelevant comparisons.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "My point is that most people "memorize the lines" given to them by others."
    Most people do not use their access to the media to foist irrational theories on others or to manipulate others into supporting failed economic and political systems, and unconstitutional infringements on rights. The actors and politicians that I criticize do this. Comparing their activity to objectivists reciting quotes from Atlas Shrugged is foolishness.
    "If you disagree with Alec Baldwin's views on global warming"
    Already posted frequently.
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    My point is that most people "memorize the lines" given to them by others. It does not make them "meat puppets." It is pretty easy here in the Gulch to know who has read Atlas and who just watched the movies. You can tell who read more than one Ayn Rand book more than one time and who just parrots the lines. But that is true of most things in life. If you disagree with Alec Baldwin's views on global warming, fine, take that up and discuss it.
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If you choose movies by their actors, then you are eating a cake by licking some of the frosting off the top and wondering what everyone else means by devil's food, angel food, and walnut tort. Movies are made by directors. They are shot by cinematographers, and assembled by editors. I always sit through the credits.
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I am saying that arguing politics is one thing, dehumanizing those with whom you disagree is another thing; and is wrong. If liberal actors are meat puppets, what are conservative actors? By their nature, I guess that we would have to say that like liberals, they do not really understand what they are saying. It just feels good to them. List of conservative actresses here:
    http://www.imdb.com/list/ls070951126/
    Why are they not meat puppets?

    Lest you miss my point: the conservatives are not meat puppets; and neither are the liberals. They may not be the deep analytical thinkers that you and I are. You can criticize their politics if you wish. After all, conservatism is shot through with errors. But their political opinions are independent of their other marketable skills.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Very acute ear my Dino friend
    They were covering Nirvana's
    Hit.
    They lyrics are some what fitting for this post though.

    "Here we are now, entertainers
    I feel stupid and contagious
    Here we are now, entertainers"
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  • Posted by mccannon01 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Really, Mike? Are you saying if someone can memorize Hamlet and repeat it with proper feeling, then the rest of us are supposed to genuflect with heads down and eyes properly averted and vote according to what that someone tells us and believe every ideological word his/her mouth gushes forth? How about people that can throw basketballs through hoops better than the rest of us? Are we supposed to do as we are told by them as well? I've seen skilled machinists, welders, and computer programmers do some pretty amazing work. So, according to you we should all go along with the wishes of these highly skilled individuals even if they begin, as freedomforall puts it: "irrational spewing statist propaganda" just because they exhibit a skill the rest of us may not have. Really?
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I didn't think their music was all that great either and that link I provided was to the best one I heard.
    Must say I've heard that song on the radio before.
    So I'm wondering if it was their song I heard or was I hearing somebody else.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The band and music was not so great but the venue was called the garage. I was with one of my brothers and a couple of my sisters. We still had a fun night.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Some of us use the things we have learned productively, ethically, and rationally. The actors being discussed use what they have learned and their fame to advance a statist regime, a system that represses individual liberty and free markets in favor of looting from the productive. Yet you defend this activity and repeatedly imply that others here are lesser beings for speaking out against the acts of such people.
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Try to find a libertarian or an Objectivist at a Mensa meeting. People come in all shapes and sizes. Of course successful actors are "acting savants." Sorry that I do not remember the name of the medical savant, (not having the memorization skills of a professional actor) but as a child, he opened a frog to see its heart, then sewed it up and it lived out its life.

    I have a cousin who was an "automotive savant." He grew up to make custom parts for dragsters while working for Ford Motor Company. He was really good at building models. I was not. I never got around to asking my cousin which statist propaganda he endorsed, or if he still considered himself a Catholic.

    How about you and the works of Ayn Rand? Do you have any critical analysis of her theory of epistemology?
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Bo Derek... John Voight... Fred Thompson... John Wayne... Jessica Simpson ... But those people agree with me, so they must be smart...
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    We all inherit the work of others. Some of us add our own efforts, our original contributions. Mostly, however, we all tend to be successful to the extent that we can memorize the works of others... Like how to drive a car, write a sentence, or bake a cake.
    https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post...
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Objectivists memorize the words of Ayn Rand and then repeat them with emotional meaning. They are not people who independently developed objectivish philosophies. "I have always believed that," they say. And they did. But did they publish any of it? No. They did not have the clarity of thought, the intellectual focus for the effort, or the willingness to stay on track for years and decades.
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