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Comey leaked memos to prompt special counsel

Posted by $ nickursis 6 years, 10 months ago to Government
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So, let me get this right. The FBI director who was investigating Hillary Beast, and found no reason to prosecute her, turns around, and in a fit of pique and to protect his butt, leaks a memo with his conversations with the President, that were supposedly classified, and in the hopes it would prompt a special counsel? While I think Trump may not be all that stable, it seems the whole gang from both parties have gone off the reservation, continent and are on another frigging planet, and running things by their own rules. Meanwhile, we peasants have to deal with whatever crap they dole out to us. Wasn't this in a book? Oh yea, Atlas Shrugged. Need to start a petition to get every Americans to read it and understand this whole government, both parties, needs to be scrapped and start over. What a bunch of losers....
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  • Posted by term2 6 years, 10 months ago
    Comey was a disloyal self serving bureaucrat who needed to be fired a LONG time ago. He was out just for himself and his power, and really was disloyal to our current President as well as to Hildebeast.

    All the Obama appointees should be fired as fast as humanly possible before they do more damage.
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  • Posted by scojohnson 6 years, 10 months ago
    Kamala Harris looked like she fell off her broom on the way to work, then treated a cabinet executive as a hostile witness in one of her "trials". Allowing the President to decide if a personal conversation was private has always been a courtesy... she didn't mention her hero AG Holter doing far worse or Loretta Lynch really being the start of the whole shit-show... nor disclose that her sister was a Hildebeast campaign advisor and was going to be working in the White House...

    Next up, the Mueler fiasco where 3 of the 5 panelists gave max to the DNC and Hillary last summer.

    I'm not a Trump fan either, but draining the swamp had my vote. These people are terrified of having to figure a new way to make a living.
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    • Posted by term2 6 years, 10 months ago
      Drain the swamp is harder than anyone realized. They are entrenched and hard to get rid of. Comey was a particularly self serving and protective swamp creature. Good riddance.
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      • Posted by scojohnson 6 years, 10 months ago
        Comey looked like a lizard crawling out of the tar pits.

        Next one.. Mueller, no accident that 3 of his gang of 5 gave the max to the DNC and Hillary. Out of 350 million people, and way too many lawyers, they couldn't find 5 that hadn't ever given a political contribution to anyone?
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      • Posted by starznbarz 6 years, 10 months ago
        I disagree. It is simple to drain the swamp, The existing laws in the District and the Constitution provide many opportunities to charge those who believe they are above the law with almost anything from drunk in public to felony destruction and dissemination of government records (Hillary). As soon as the first charges were read and booking procedures followed, you would see a tidal wave of change. What is harder than anyone realized, is finding a person with the authority and WILLINGNESS to do it.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 6 years, 10 months ago
    I think that Donald Trump made a huge mistake when he failed to fire Comey on day one. A prosecutor who reads into an indictment a clause of intent where no such exists in the statute is not fit to serve. Period. Remember, Comey declined even to bring the charges to a Grand Jury (which is a pre-trial to see if enough evidence exists to warrant the real trial) despite the fact that he spent 15 minutes immediately prior to that laying out a pretty compelling case against Hillary.

    Mueller's buddy-buddy relationship with Comey AND the fact that his team are all paid Democrats with an axe to grind should disqualify that entire team. Sessions (after testifying yesterday) should just rescind his recusal and take charge of the investigation and repeat what everyone has been saying for six months: THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF COLLUSION. Evidence of Russian attempts to tamper with the election? Yes. But no collusion - at least from the Trump campaign. There were certainly inappropriate contacts with Russia on the Clinton side, yet I don't see any mention of it by the left-wing press.
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    • Posted by CircuitGuy 6 years, 10 months ago
      "made a huge mistake "
      It depends on if he's guilty. We don't know if he is. My wild-guess gut feeling is he is not guilty.

      I believe Comey and Mueller are honorable people, not playing politics. If these guesses of mine are right, Mueller will find no convincing evidence of collusion.

      As for whether President Trump is handling it right, if he's trying to avoid scandal I think he's handling it horribly. If my guesses are right and he's not guilty and his goal is attention, he's handling it perfectly. He has people talking about him. When they dig in, they won't find enough evidence to prove anything, and people will still be focused on it.

      Maybe he can pull off the magician trick of getting attention on one thing while doing something else. Maybe he can get re-elected with it. I don't think he's doing it for strategic regions. I think he's a natural-born marketing and buzz-generating genius, and that's permeates everything he does.
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      • Posted by freedomforall 6 years, 10 months ago
        "Comey and Mueller are honorable people"
        Honorable people???? Ha-HA-HA-HA-HA! ROTFLMAO!
        I never knew you had such a sense of humor!
        Oops, you were serious...
        Hopefully their corruption will become clear and time will tell just how deluded and brainwashed you are CG, but I doubt you will ever be willing to acknowledge your long running, ongoing errors in judgement regarding liberal traitors acting for the Democrats and against the interests of individual liberty and free markets.
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      • Posted by $ blarman 6 years, 10 months ago
        If who is guilty? Neither Comey nor Trump are under investigation. (Although Comey could be for leaking the memos...)

        "I believe Comey and Mueller are honorable people, not playing politics."

        I wish I could believe that, but the fact is that no one rises to those heights in government in this era without political ties. I wish that everyone in the FBI was non-partisan and objective (blind justice), but Comey shot all semblance of that with his Hillary non-indictment.

        "As for whether President Trump is handling it right"

        I agree that he is handling it horribly. The thing that is a joke is that there is no scandal in the first place and even Democrats have admitted this.
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        • Posted by CircuitGuy 6 years, 10 months ago
          "If who is guilty?"
          I meant if President Trump is guilty of making a deal with the Russian gov't to influence the presidential election. I am saying my gut feeling is he is not guilty of that.

          "Neither Comey nor Trump are under investigation."
          On the contrary, the Justice Dept is investigating ties between President Trump and the Russian gov't. I do not suspect (just my guess) Trump is guilty of any illegal dealings with Russia.
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          • Posted by $ blarman 6 years, 10 months ago
            "On the contrary, the Justice Dept is investigating ties between President Trump and the Russian gov't."

            Not according to Comey's testimony earlier this week. When specifically asked, he denied that President Trump himself was being investigated or at all under scrutiny. The investigations were whether any of Trump's transition team had improper dealings. So far nothing has been found. Even Michael Flynn's dealings were not about improper contacts, but that he had contacts he didn't disclose to Mike Pence. He was fired, but it was a pretty minor offense - nowhere even close to anything like Loretta Lynch's improper meeting with Bill Clinton, Anthony Weiner having secure emails on his laptop, or a host of other Obama-era scandals.
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            • Posted by CircuitGuy 6 years, 10 months ago
              I think you're saying it's not technically an "investigation" if it's done by the Justice Department rather than the FBI. I may be confused on that point. I invite you to send me a PM where I can write about our interest in this case.
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              • Posted by $ blarman 6 years, 10 months ago
                Given that it was the FBI director (Comey) being questioned and that - according to Comey's own testimony - Trump had received at least three confirmations from Comey that Trump personally was not being investigated for wrongdoing, I'm not going to get hung up on the semantics. This isn't Bill Clinton we're talking about here.

                Several related notes:
                - Loretta Lynch wanted to reclassify FBI actions from being "investigations" to "inquiries" with regards to Hillary Clinton.
                - Both Holder and Lynch refused to recuse themselves when there were very obvious conflicts: Holder with "Fast and Furious" and Lynch with Clinton. Sessions at least did the honorable thing and recused himself when he really didn't need to.
                - The Justice Department under Obama became the most politicized it has ever been, refusing to prosecute the Black Panthers for voter intimidation and for spuriously prosecuting several States for Voter ID rules.
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          • Posted by ewv 6 years, 10 months ago
            Trump is not under investigation for any crime and there is no evidence that he committed any crime. Russia has been interfering in other countries for a century. That and Hillary's denial hysteria don't make Trump a suspect. In this country people are innocent until proven guilty and are not supposed to be maligned, suspected and investigated just because a political party demands it. (And why is Obama's known interference trying to defeat Netanyahu in the Israeli election not mentioned?)

            There is no objectivity in this "investigation" mania at all. The whole circus of innuendos and insinuations makes no sense and isn't intended to, which is why Sessions rightly called it "Through the Looking Glass". And yet they have managed to create national confusion and growing chaos.

            As Toohey acknowledged in The Fountainhead, "Don't bother to examine a folly -- ask yourself only what it accomplishes."

            The Democrats, including the establishment media on a hysterical crusade to support them, have manufactured controversies to intentionally cast doubt and undermine their political enemies. It began when they accused Trump of not legitimately winning the election, blaming it on "The Russians", now entwined with accusations of an undefined "collusion" for which there is no evidence.

            Innocent people are not supposed to be put through investigations, persecution, and exposes on whatever can be found on them and spread to appear embarrassing, all on the grounds that 'if they're innocent they have nothing to worry about' so 'it's for their own good to be shown innocent by an investigation'. This isn't supposed to be a police state. The FBI is not supposed to be the witch-hunt arm of political "opposition research" and more.

            Yet these antics are fully compatible with the Obama administration abuse of intelligence and other government agencies to single out, investigate and try to find anything with which to discredit, persecute or bring down its political enemies -- which Comey subsequently continued on his own, including his now exposed personal tactic to politically manufacture the appearance of a need for a "special prosecutor" for which there was no crime to investigate. All of this exploitation of and political actions from inside of intelligence agencies are police state tactics, made possible in part by growing disregard for the rights of the individual and in particular for freedom from massive government surveillance practiced in the name of protection.

            They want to disrupt people's lives and harass them into ceasing to function. They want to exploit vague standards of open-ended, overlapping laws designed to make anyone guilty of something, or appear to be, whenever needed. It's the chickens coming home to roost.

            They are demanding "investigations" for the purpose of disrupting, harassing, and spreading suspicion. Their "investigations" are intended to create suspicion, not investigate objectively held suspicion. Trump's guilt in their minds is that he isn't a Democrat and he beat Hillary. He wants to drain their swamp. They want to create an appearance and equivalence of impeachment hearings.

            Their idea of "independent" means someone outside -- preferably themselves -- of an elected government that is supposed to be directing government functions, including investigations of foreign countries. They want to take that over and turn it into an attack on Trump (where were the Democrats when Obama was in charge of protection of US security?). They want an official sanction of their propaganda in the name of "Independent Investigation" to make it appear credible, beyond what they can get from their own typical antics and the usual anti-journalism.

            They want a moral sanction, which is why it was a terrible error for Sessions to recuse himself, helping them to create an appearance that he, not his accusers, have a conflict of interest. He is not the only one to have pandered to the irrationality in the hope of appearing reasonable, nor could anything he does ever satisfy them. In the name of "independent" they want to take over the power of government investigative functions they lost in the election, and Sessions and others of their targets have helped give it to them.

            The "investigations" are intended to drive out their political enemies through disruption and creation of unfounded public suspicions to, by illegitimate means, undermine the government and prevent it from functioning, especially to limit reforming statism, until they can take over full power; in a word, it's a means of pursuing a coup.

            Their violent street and university "protests" are only the beginning if they don't get what they want and aren't stopped. They need a weak, appeasing government lacking public confidence and which is not able to stop escalating violence.

            The kind of extended, deliberately created chaos disabling a government -- with the support of the intellectuals in an ends-justifies-the-means mania -- that we are seeing is unprecedented in this country and ought to be frightening to everyone. Their drive for power has them so hopped up that they feel anything is justified to overthrow their political enemies, Trump in particular.

            The current circus of irrationalism and growing confusion over "investigations" that make no objective sense is not an accident. Reforming government, and preventing further ideologically driven power grabs, requires and begins by articulating and explaining rational ideas. The creation of confusion and chaos is intentional -- statism cannot co-exist with a rational society in which people understand what is happening. That Republicans, and Trump in particular, are unable to rationally defend themselves -- in part because of their own indefensible 'me too but slower' statism-collectivism -- is aiding the decline. One cannot fight a tide of irrationalism, chaos and power-seeking with evasion, pandering, and a mentality of middle-of-the-night spurts of 140-character emotional taunts in "tweets" further diluting serious public discussion. The Democrats know that and are taking full advantage of it.
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            • Posted by $ 6 years, 10 months ago
              Very well written and cognitive discussion, and seems to be a good summary of where this all sits. I have noticed a distinct abandonment by the Republicrats in many of the previous positions to just a "counter the Dumbocraps" positions, which just yields more morass, confusion and opportunity to keep making up "stuff". I am beginning to think the Hitler Rants videos on You Tube actually portray both f them accurately..they are actually pretty hilarious, especially when Hitler wins the 2016 election....
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              • Posted by ewv 6 years, 10 months ago
                Translations of the Hitler speeches typically omit his explicit appeals to altruism. Read Leonard Peikoff's The Ominous Parallels for the full cultural similarities. It isn't enough to dismiss the latest politicians as "Republicrats" and "Dumbocraps". They are the result of something much more fundamental.
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                • Posted by $ 6 years, 10 months ago
                  I admit to a base level of understanding in the deeper meanings of both parties. Although I cannot say I could find anything but manipulation in almost any of Hitlers statements, even his economic ones. In the Rise and Fall of the Third Reich I remember many references to how he used whatever issue was at hand (just as we see today) to twist into a "I can fix that, with you" message.
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                  • Posted by ewv 6 years, 10 months ago
                    Hitler was no philosopher, but prominent party members were highly trained in the German intellectual tradition. It was a well educated nation with a sophisticated culture. Their philosophy is what made the political horror possible.
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                    • Posted by $ 6 years, 10 months ago
                      Indeed, it would seem he had some forms of philosophy ingrained in his desperate need to categorize everything. It seemed he had some strange concepts of how people interacted on all levels, and that was what he seemed to do: categorize everything into little boxes, what he could use, who was a threat, what was useless or neutral, and then tried to disposition accordingly. I think most of their failures were always based on bad categorization by him. Trump reminds me of that, as well as Rome and Alexander the Great.
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      • Posted by $ 6 years, 10 months ago
        CG, go look at the article I posted and read through it, I did not get to all their background references, but it seemed they thought it through, and Comey does not come out of it well...
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  • Posted by freedomforall 6 years, 10 months ago
    Agree completely with your comments, nick. Disgusting unethical sick looters. Put them all on disability (and out of the way.)
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    • Posted by $ 6 years, 10 months ago
      Thank you, sir. The circus has reached a point it needs to fold up the tent and go home, we really need to start over, with term limits and new parties. More argument for a Convention of States....
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      • Posted by ewv 6 years, 10 months ago
        A Convention of States would not make a dent in this. The corruption and statism is everywhere. We all share the same frustration but rearranging the chairs on the deck for the 'states' is a hopeless non-solution that does not begin to address the cause.

        The same goes for term limits. Term limits occasionally block some particularly bad individual in power but do not address the cause of the problem and also blocks relatively good people from remaining in office. Since good people are in a small minority and the rest are easily replaced this is not helpful. It's not that politicians should be allowed to remain in power for decades, but that is secondary compared to the roots of rising statism.

        Likewise for "new parties". Who would be expected to populate them? The same ones who are running everything now.
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        • Posted by $ 6 years, 10 months ago
          EWV, I cannot say you are wrong, as I have no data to prove it. I can say that from my involvement with the Convention of States, they make a good case for being the last gasp hope of pulling the plug on a lot of the crap the system doesn't want touched. I have also made a point of saying that term limits will need to be ever so carefully worded, as a corrupt SCOTUS will just let someone, who has expired their 2 terms as a representative, switch to the senate for 2 terms, and then back to the house. The idea is to kill of entrenched power and make it harder to have a crony collection. As far as parties go, I would hope a new party, with a fair and equitable platform that is committed to cutting government to it's barest size, would draw all the people who currently are unhappy with both parties. I don't know of a much better answer at this point.....
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          • Posted by ewv 6 years, 10 months ago
            It's not that there aren't good ideas that wouldn't help if enough people were willing and able to use them, if they could be put into place at all, but it's not the solution. The course of the country depends on the ideas that people accept -- there is enormous 'data' showing that for a few thousand years. There are no short cuts. With growing widely accepted statist-altruist-collectivist premises nothing you could put into the Constitution can stop them without reversing the intellectual course of the country. That is why it isn't true that improving the Constitution will save us or is all that can save us. It's not that people who want the improvements aren't sincere or legitimately frustrated, but it's not nearly enough.
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            • Posted by $ 6 years, 10 months ago
              Good points, I am hoping there are enough people left whio can still think and see how this is all an insane mess that both parties have created. Maybe it is the result of 40years of crapping up the education system, and no one standing up successfully to them as they nibbled away at critical thinking, history, and enacted their revisionist programs.
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              • Posted by ewv 6 years, 10 months ago
                A lot of people see that we are in an insane mess, but that doesn't tell them what to do about it. Not liking something doesn't tell anyone what to do instead. Not liking the results of a particular form of statism-collectivism doesn't say what is right, which is reason and individualism, not more experiments with progressively more intense statism-collectivism.

                Promulgation of fundamentally bad ideas in the educational system is a lot older than 40 years. The European counter Enlightenment was imported into this country by intellectuals in the 19th century, leading to Pragmatism and Progressivism with a base of subjectivism, altruism and collectivism. Without understanding the rational alternative, learning correct history isn't enough.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 6 years, 10 months ago
    They may be a "bunch of losers" but then, so are we. I feel like just saying "I'm to old for this shit" and just staying in my comfy office and catch up on my book reading. But, I do have so much fun in the Gulch and poking libs on FB that I guess I'll stay out in the world a little longer.
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    • Posted by $ 6 years, 10 months ago
      Well, it's a dirty job, but someone has to do it. I do think the technology has added a certain remoteness to the discussion, that encourages people to say and do things they normally never would. Maybe we are seeing what they have been thinking all along..
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