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Philosophy Teacher Who Bashed Trump Supporter Arrested

Posted by  $  allosaur 4 months ago to News
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A philosophy teacher who taught "Introduction to Ethics" was taught "Introduction to Jail" after he bashed a Trump supporter with a bicycle U-Lock.
Hopefully, this ethical for a libtard educator will also be taught "Introduction to State Prison" after a guilty verdict.
But this happened in Kalifornia. So who knows?
Watching the video, I noticed that Trump supporters are not the ones fond of wearing masks.
SOURCE URL: http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/05/26/professor-arrested-on-suspicion-of-assaulting-trump-supporters-with-metal-bike-lock-in-berkeley/


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  • Posted by  $  rjim 3 months, 4 weeks ago
    It is about time they start arresting people who destroy property and are violent against others.
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    • Posted by ewv 3 months, 4 weeks ago
      The time to refuse to tolerate violent university 'protests' was 50 years ago when the New Left started it. See Ayn Rand's "The Cashing-In: The Student 'Rebellion'" in her anthology Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal.

      This Philosopher-hoodlum at Berkeley is walking in the footsteps of his lawyer Dan Siegel, who was one of the leaders of the New Left violence at Berkeley in 1969 https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post...
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    • Posted by  $  3 months, 4 weeks ago
      Stand down orders to coddle precious little rioting snowflakes is downright idiotic.
      Colleges that engage in that deserve all the damage inflicted~if not altogether being burned down to the ground.
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      • Posted by jdg 3 months, 4 weeks ago
        It makes sense when you realize that the mayor of Berkeley is a member of Antifa.

        It's time to start a substitute police force. It doesn't help to be above vigilantism when the enemy is already doing it with impunity.
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        • Posted by ewv 3 months, 4 weeks ago
          It 'helps' to discover and spread the proper principles of the purpose of government to defend the rights of the individual and to encourage that to the extent that many people still at least partially understand. Further descent into the chaos of vigilantism and anarchy does not and only helps the leftist thugs spread the notion that their enemies are doing it.
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  • Posted by ycandrea 3 months, 4 weeks ago
    Why are these liberal violent nuts referred to as "antifa" which means "anti-facism" when they ARE the facists??
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    • Posted by  $  Dobrien 3 months, 4 weeks ago
      They have figured it out that most people don't know what hipocracy is and it is that the end justifies the means anyway.
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      • Posted by ewv 3 months, 4 weeks ago
        It isn't hypocrisy, it's their philosophy. They believe it. The battle between the communists and the fascists was always a power struggle between collectivist statists, even before the Hitler Stalin pact and its subsequent breakup, after which the communists accused anyone who didn't support them as fascists.
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        • Posted by KevinSchwinkendorf 3 months, 3 weeks ago
          I agree - I think. And, when some violent thug nut-job tries to assault me with a deadly weapon (any blunt object can be a deadly weapon if the bad-guy hits you hard enough, especially to the head), it is my philosophy that I (as a concealed-carry holder) will take out my .38 and stop the assault, with whatever force is necessary. I believe it.
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          • Posted by ewv 3 months, 3 weeks ago
            And it doesn't make you, as someone who openly supports civilization, a hypocrite for defending yourself. Clanton is no supporter of civilization, but his deliberateness in his goals, and even contradictory rhetoric, means he isn't a hypocrite either. It's important to recognize the importance of ideas as the root of actions and the course of history and not assume that those acting destructively are only acting contrary to commonly accepted values.
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        • Posted by  $  Dobrien 3 months, 4 weeks ago
          Love Trumps Hate . Hypocrisy is the contrivance of a false appearance of virtue or goodness, while concealing real character or inclinations.
          Wow once again you want Interpret for me.
          When he hit the victim in the head with a metal weapon while supporting love over trumps hate. He was being philosophical .
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          • Posted by ewv 3 months, 4 weeks ago
            He is not a hypocrite. He is openly doing this on behalf of what he thinks is important. He is a collectivist. His warped idea of "love" is adherence to his false values. He means it. This is ultimately a philosophical battle for reason and individualism, not a dispute over wayward people departing from mutually shared values.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 4 months ago
    If he's guilty, maybe he can continue "exploring restorative justice" by going to jail and paying restitution to the victim.
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    • Posted by  $  4 months ago
      That's what should happen. It's the "Will it?" that I want to know.
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      • Posted by CircuitGuy 3 months, 4 weeks ago
        ""Will it?" that I want to know."
        Hopefully. Human institutions are fallible. Sometimes guilty people get away with stuff. The other side of the coin is some people still joke about responding to crime with extrajudical atrocities. Maybe that's urge had an evolutionary advantage in that you don't want to mess with a clan possessing that gene. It's unfortunate to see that the irrational anti-law spirit of our origin persists in the modern world.
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        • Posted by ewv 3 months, 4 weeks ago
          Wrong ideas do not come from genes.
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          • Posted by CircuitGuy 3 months, 4 weeks ago
            "Wrong ideas do not come from genes."
            I don't know if it counts as an "idea", but I believe we're adapted to feel the urge for revenge, sometimes a ghastly revenge. So if someone steals or does violence, the victims or their family might incur costs and risks disproportional to the attack to get revenge. This served as a crude deterrent to violence before humankind invented law.
            (I marked this reasonable and polite comment back up. )
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            • Posted by ewv 3 months, 3 weeks ago
              People with values fight back and should -- it keeps bullies and criminals at bay, but that alone doesn't tell us what is proper for retribution or punishment. What begins as self-defense or revenge often turns into emotional feuding that turns into the mental, psychoogical and physical equivalent of murderous Hatfield-McCoy wars, worse than the original bad behavior. The protection of individual rights requires putting force under objective control, delegating its use to a proper government, which in turn requires a proper philosophy. Today we have a mixture of campus thugs on the loose unpunished and unstopped, while government acts as the criminal in many realms of our lives.
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  • Posted by NealS 3 months, 4 weeks ago
    These kinds of things, and the Pelosi's and Schumer's kind of mouths, are going to come back to haunt them even more when the mid-term elections come around. People on both side are starting to get tired of this pure nonsense. They need to experience self created shock and awe, and maybe they'll come back to being civilized again for a while. Hopefully the 2020 elections will finally ground them and law will even come back to this country. We need Trump now more than ever, hope he doesn't flake out.
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  • Posted by  $  Dobrien 4 months ago
    LOVE TRUMPS HATE. Perfect example of the left's hipocracy. Just another masked Soros scumbag .The origin of that insult: scumbag is fitting.
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    • Posted by  $  4 months ago
      Progressive ethics is the moral relativism of a scumbag with a mask and a bloody club.
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      • Posted by ewv 3 months, 4 weeks ago
        Progressivism is politics as a consequence of philosophy. They start with the same false ethical premises that have been prevalent for 2000 years and apply it to politics in the form Pragmatism. Violent leftists think they are idealists, and by their false premises they are.
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      • Posted by roneida 3 months, 4 weeks ago
        allosaur...A perfect example of why we must never, ever forget what life for intelligent, patriotic conservative people would be like if these insane, power mad idiots are ever allowed to be in charge, There will be no quarter given and should be none allowed to them. America is dangerously close to an existential struggle...for get the dangers from I S IS or Russia...we have seen the enemies and they are already with us.
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        • Posted by ewv 3 months, 4 weeks ago
          It's not about conservatives. It reminds us of what life would be like for any civilized, productive individualists, especially those who speak out on principle, similar to the persecution of Jews and others in Nazi Germany.
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          • Posted by roneida 3 months, 4 weeks ago
            True. I agree that all are welcome to join the struggle for individual safety, free speech, freedom of assembly etc. but generally these types are not progressives or snow flakes. Generalities are not wise to use but some common interests are necessary for defense.
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            • Posted by ewv 3 months, 4 weeks ago
              'Progressive' versus 'conservative' is a false alternative. Conservativism is not a core to "join" for individualism. The country was founded by radical classical liberal individualists of the Enlightenment, not conservatives. The term 'conservative', like 'liberal', today is an imprecise term. Some modern conservatives and some modern liberals (but not the progressive activists or the religious zealots) lean towards individualism in some ways, but often for the wrong reasons.

              But anyone who 'leans' towards or is civilized is under an increasingly serious threat today. The root cause is not departure from "conservativism" with its faith, family and tradition mantra, but that few recognize the philosophical reasons in the battle between reason versus irrationalism and mysticism, egoism versus altruistic self-sacrifice, individualism versus collectivism, and freedom versus statism. Allies who still at least tend towards civilized behavior are important, but not enough.
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              • Posted by CircuitGuy 3 months, 4 weeks ago
                "battle between reason versus irrationalism and mysticism"
                This discussion is very interesting. I understand the importance of individualism vs. collectivism, but it doesn't seem to be what this thug is fighting about. If they were fighting about collectivism, it would make sense to me. It seems like in general irrationality, esp the notion that there is no one reality, has increased. I would not expect that because our technological world creates opportunities for people capable of reason. Maybe people are becoming more rational, but violent irrationality is morbidly fascinating like a train wreck, and the Internet and other media supply us more of what we click on. Assuming that explanation does not account for it, though, and there are movements of people angry about public policy, I would really like to know what it's all about. Is it that these people feel the need to be rude and violent about something, and policy issues will do, or is more going on?
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                • Posted by ewv 3 months, 4 weeks ago
                  Yes, more is going on. A technological world providing opportunities for those who exercise reason (everyone is "capable" of it) is not enough. Such a world is made possible by reason, it does not cause it, and it isn't enough when the underlying culture of irrationality is spreading. Rational people do not become morbidly fascinated by irrational outbursts and then emulate them; they are repulsed by it and expect the government to catch and imprison the perpetrators to return the streets and the universities to civilized behavior.

                  Every political system implies and presupposes an ethics. Ethics presupposes an epistemology and a view of man and his relation to reality, i.e., philosophy. Clanton and his lawyer (an old line communist) are collectivists, and so have the rest of the university violent "protestors" been for 50 years since the beginning of the New Left. Clanton's lawyer was one of their leaders as a student at Berkeley in 1969.

                  Those who behave like that have a lot of bad ideas about what people are and can be. The radical activists are not rational individuals who just happen to have latched onto progressive politics and who fell in deep. Their collectivist politics is a result of bad philosophy driving it. Look at the nihilism in Saul Alinsky's New Left Bible Rules for Radicals as only one example. Reread Ayn Rand's "The Cashing-In: The Student 'Rebellion'" and "The Chickens' Homecoming" in her anthology Return of the Primitive. It is the "cashing-in" and is "the chickens coming home to roost" from bad and corrupt philosophy. Read Leonard Peikoff's The Ominous Parallels comparing the culture of Weimar Germany with the trend in the culture here now -- it is mostly philosophical, showing the political results of the bad philosophical premises. He began writing that after lecturing on the topic in response to the first wave of university violence from the New Left.

                  You are right that irrationalism has increased in the culture at a deep level, and so has the collectivist politics and outbursts of violence become more 'mainstream' because of it. It is all connected. The anger about public policy is only the result: The left is angry because we still aren't living in their image of an 'ideal' collectivist society and they are not consistently in power to impose it, but that is driven by what else they believe and resent us for. More civilized people are angry or concerned over public policy that is dragging us down into the results of the progressing statism and corruption -- which they don't like but mostly don't know what to do about it -- but starting with better at least implicit ideas mostly do not behave like the collectivist thugs in the streets. Even most of those who do live and work in the world of modern technology based on reason don't know what makes it possible and often advocate irrational positions in other realms, including politics even if usually not in the form of rioting louts in the streets.

                  That is why I did not stop at 'collectivism versus individualism', but referred to the whole scope of "the battle between reason versus irrationalism and mysticism, egoism versus altruistic self-sacrifice, individualism versus collectivism, and freedom versus statism".
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                  • Posted by CircuitGuy 3 months, 4 weeks ago
                    " Clanton and his lawyer (an old line communist) are collectivists,"
                    How do you know this? Are they already famous apart from this crime? It doesn't really matter to me because I think the crime is every bit as bad regardless of the motive, but I'm still curious about the motive because it seems part of a larger pattern of people getting violently mad about politics. It's hard to believe he would be a non-violent person if only his public policy ideas were implemented.
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                    • Posted by ewv 3 months, 3 weeks ago
                      Canton was not famous (or infamous) before this but has a history of being into 'social justice' causes and has been part of the left's 'protests' against Trump and freedom of speech on campuses. His lawyer claimed that he is being persecuted for "engagement in political activity." As a politically aware teacher of philosophy, though certainly not renowned in his field, Clanton knows what he is doing; he's not just committing random acts of violence in ignorance. His advocacy of "restorative justice" is a term from leftist sociology opposing punishment for crimes, trying to replace it with negotiated 'settlement' with the victim and requiring the victim to engage in lengthy discussions with the perpetrator.

                      I have given this link, previously in this thread, on Canton and his lawyer in: https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post...

                      Here is some more background on his lawyer:
                      http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2...
                      http://scocal.stanford.edu/opinion/si...

                      But again, the politics isn't the root cause; the leftist politics and his personal behavior are a consequence of more fundamental bad ideas.
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                  • Posted by CircuitGuy 3 months, 4 weeks ago
                    "Rational people do not become morbidly fascinated by irrational outbursts and then emulate them"
                    I was saying train wrecks draw people's attention. On the Internet, that leads to clicks, so people and alogrithms put up links to more news stories that we supposedly "want", even if we don't want to see them and they are a rare exception to how people normally behave. This gives people the wrong impression that violent crime is rising.
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                    • Posted by ewv 3 months, 3 weeks ago
                      The violent left "protests" at universities is on the rise again, but most people don't realize it isn't new or know about the wave of it in the 1960s and 70s. For example we are now often told, with intended irony, that the "free speech movement" began at Berkeley in the late 1960s somehow contradicting what they are doing now. It did not, the leftists were just as totalitarian then, shutting down opponents, etc. while they were calling themselves the 'free speech movement' as an excuse to dictate university policy and take over buildings.

                      As for believing from following clicks violent crime in general is rising, the clicks have been there for about 20 years now so that isn't new. But variations in frequency of ordinary violent crime isn't the central issue; we're talking about the increasing philosophical irrationality infecting everything, including political ideas and the increasing statism.
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  • Posted by ewv 3 months, 4 weeks ago
    From the article: "'We especially at Diablo Valley College received, in fact, hundreds of calls and emails concerning the hiring, that we have someone like this in front of our class, in front of our students, potentially dangerous,' spokesman Tim Leong told KPIX."

    There have been widespread comments of irony that he teaches ethics. When will they start to question the danger of indoctrination of collectivism and demands for human sacrifice in the name of philosophy as the standard of morality, taught "in front of our class, in front of our students" everywhere for a century?

    This video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muoR8... describes how Clanton was identified, despite his masks and black robes used to hide his identity, through pain staking studies of multiple videos of violent leftist "protests" and analysis with facial recognition software. His ethics, fully implemented, led him to engage in several other violent sneak attacks.

    Here is a video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muoR8... of a press interview of Clanton's lawyer Dan Siegel. Siegel blames his client's assault on "a lot of people who came to Berkeley, members of right wing organizations, hate groups, people who fly the KKK flag". He said that he takes on cases "to represent people who are facing criminal charges because of their engagement in political activity."

    Siegel has been a radical leftist for 50 years. He was a leader in the violent left uprising at Berkeley in 1969, was a public spokesman for the Communist Workers Party in the 1980s, signed a statement in 2008 in support of terrorist Bill Ayres in solidarity with Ayres' former Weather Underground Organization, was a leader in the New Democratic Movement organization formed by the Communist Workers Party in 1986, worked for the communist National Lawyers Guild in the 1970s and later for the far left Institute for Policy Studies in Washington DC, and has been a leader and supporter in many other collectivist causes and political campaigns. http://keywiki.org/Dan_Siegel
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    • Posted by  $  3 months, 4 weeks ago
      That's an interesting read. So Siegel blames his client's assault on "a lot of people" Clanton does not like.
      I can't see me dino getting away with that excuse for bashing someone on the head.
      When I was corrections officer, the one human target I was trained to avoid with a baton was an inmate's head. A head strike is called lethal force.
      I'd probably have to prove I had first been cut by a shank in order to get away with that.
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      • Posted by ewv 3 months, 4 weeks ago
        His emotional reactions to "a lot of people" he "doesn't like" come from his collectivist premises thoroughly ingrained into his head. Anything else not compatible with them must be "hate", as an extreme form of all he can think of for rejecting the collectivist premises to which he is so thoroughly wedded.

        For a leftist, that justifies anything he wants to do to his enemies -- from personal physical attacks to statist hijacking of the coercive power of government to impose his totalitarian beliefs.

        Any raw dictator does the same -- he has an ingrained emotional attachment to his own power viewed as the supremacy of the state. Anyone who dares to defy or question his edicts (or his bureaucrats') is automatically denounced as an "enemy", with no other justification required: you violated a "law" or "rule" to which you have unquestionable duty to submit to. No further explanation or argument is required and no defense is possible or allowed.

        That is what happens when the rights of the individual are not understood and/or acknowledged, and is the irrational, emotional thuggery where we are headed.
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        • Posted by  $  3 months, 4 weeks ago
          Clanton's "Introduction To Ethics" class must be a real trip. That all in his past, I hope.
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          • Posted by ewv 3 months, 3 weeks ago
            According to student reviews he was hard to follow but it was an easy course to get through. He probably wasn't much different than countless other modern philosophy courses opaquely muddying ideas, pushing bad ones, and indoctrinating with leftist collectivist politics.

            He wasn't teaching this semester but who knows if he will go back to it, though probably not to the same college, which has now disowned him (for his physical attack, not his bad teaching of bad philosophy). Look at the "career" of Bill Ayres going from his Weather Underground terrorism to the University of Chicago and influential supporter of Obama's 'community organizing' and entrance into politics. Based on reports about Clanton's background, he doesn't have Ayres' brain power, money and pull, but he is now a potential martyr for the left to implant propagandizing somewhere, along with countless other drones echoing bad philosophy.
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            • Posted by  $  3 months, 3 weeks ago
              He was hard to follow but gave easy tests must have been what the students meant.
              One could claim Clanton committed a terrorist act.against free speech but that's not how the left will view it, especially if Clanton has to serve hard time for conking three conservatives.
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              • Posted by ewv 3 months, 3 weeks ago
                He committed a peace act against hate speech. If unfairly convicted, the 9th circus will allow Obama to retroactively pardon him and he will be rewarded with a lucrative tax exempt position as Assistant to Bill Ayers, Social Justice Professor Emeritus at the Clinton-Obama International Library and Money Laundering Institute.
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                • Posted by  $  3 months, 3 weeks ago
                  LOL! I have a very conservative brother who at times displays a similar sarcastic sense of humor.
                  Trouble is, saying "a peace act against hate speech" would have some snowflakes nodding back at you.
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  • Posted by bassboat 3 months, 4 weeks ago
    Solution to problem:
    1) Fire teachers
    2) Expel students

    Problem solved, that's the way order was kept before.
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    • Posted by ewv 3 months, 4 weeks ago
      A proper, civilized "order" against these ideologues is kept by people understanding the difference between the collectivist, anti-reason left and civilized protection of the rights of the individual protected by a proper government, not by government action on behalf of a vague notion of "order". This has not been done in the universities for 50 years when Clanton's radical left lawyer lead the New Left violence at Berkeley in the late 1960s. https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post...
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