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  • Posted by NauticalSaunas 4 months ago
    Progressive apologism is a cancer upon the world.
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    • Posted by  $  MikeMarotta 4 months ago
      As I said the graphic is fake. Both shots were staged for the production. It is obviously a canard meant for self-amusement.
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      • Posted by  $  4 months ago
        Obviously staged.
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        • Posted by jdg 4 months ago
          So the F what? It was staged, but the messages it shows are both accurate representations of what the two groups really say.

          Except they're lefties, not liberals. Quite illiberal, in fact.
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          • Posted by  $  MikeMarotta 4 months ago
            You seem not to have studied socialism from socialist sources. Just as Objectivists, libertarians, and conservatives have consequential differences, so, too, is the political left not of one mindset. You noted that with "illiberal." Many on the right consider themselves the true and proper inheritors of 19th century liberalism. Milton Friedman and F. A. Hayek were just two exemplars. Post-modernist collectivists on the left often decry "neo-liberalism and globalism." But, then, so do many on the right.

            As a development from the Enlightenment modern socialism, especially Marxism, argues well against Islamic fundamentalism in particular, and even Islam in general. Marxism is materialist. Marxists are opposed to mysticism, whether Buddhist, Christian, Muslim, or Wiccan, or whatever else.

            More deeply, socialism (especially Marxism) is an economic philosophy: the Sharia (and traditional Christian and Jewish) modes of commerce are antithetical to socialism. You could do business in the ISIL Caliphate a lot easier than you could in the old USSR or even Norway today.

            The USSR put the first woman in space. Women in the USSR were doctors, engineers, even KGB lawyers with general officer rank.

            For all of those reasons and many others you would be challenged to find many on the left who support ISIS or excuse it.
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            • Posted by  $  4 months ago
              Socialist-leaning libs have a weird affinity for coddling Muslims that I don't understand unless I factor in consider illegal immigrants and sanctuary cities.
              VOTES! Legal or otherwise.
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 4 months ago
    Houdini wrote a book entitled, as I recall, Magician Among the Spirits, in which he said he tried to show people that they were being tricked, and that the victims would not believe it even when he showed them. Apparently, some people just believe what they want to believe, regardless of the evidence. Ah, faith...
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    • Posted by  $  4 months ago
      I recall reading about a UFO convention many years ago. One of those people pointed up at a passing passenger jet and said it was a UFO. Told by others that the aircraft was a passenger jet, the loonie kept insisting it was a UFO.
      I used to have a coworker who'd off and on say in a matter of fact tone that he saw UFOs all the time. One day I asked him where did he see most of those UFOs. He replied that was when he was out in the woods hunting. So there you have it. Yes-siree bob!
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  • Posted by wmiranda 4 months ago
    Islamophobia? That's a badge demonstrating your knowledge and understanding of the dangers that Islam presents to western civilized societies. So next time someone calls you an islamophobe, say thank you. That's what I do and it usually happens when they realize they don't know what they're talking about.
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  • Posted by Lnxjenn 4 months ago
    LOL! Yes. they really are that stupid... or they are complicit in the invasion and destruction of the western world. I think it's the latter... or both!
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    • Posted by  $  4 months ago
      I respectfully submit they are really that stupid.
      Puddinghead ibs really think their oh so special Muslims will happily go along with the socialist version of a global utopia without Sharia law ruling everybody.
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      • Posted by jdg 4 months ago
        More likely the left just believes Islamists will help them cause western countries to collapse, after which they'll be able to pick up the pieces. They are deluding themselves. Islam has been waging this "cold war" for 1400 years. The only reason it ever worked for Marxists is that a desperate German leadership helped them pull it off during WW1, and then they conned FDR into giving them half of Europe at Yalta.

        Meanwhile Soros is just a loose cannon, so feckless that he's caused revolutions in countries on both sides. If he ever figures out what he's doing, something will need to be done about him. I just hope Trump, or his replacement, figures it out before Soros does.
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        • Posted by  $  4 months ago
          Soros looks like someone who should be dead already. At this point I looked him up. He'll turn 87 this August.
          My dad died one day short of making it to his 99th birthday summer before last..
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  • Posted by rainman0720 4 months ago
    I was having a really crappy day, and that made me laugh. Thanks, allosaur. I really needed something to break the tension, and that picture was perfect.
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    • Posted by  $  4 months ago
      I posted that despite having a crappy day myself. I hit a pothole from hell that I didn't even see. All my oil spilled plus radiator and other engine damage.. Thought I only had a bent fender as I backed out.
      I drove on until the car computer cut off the engine so it would not lock up. Lucky me. Only then did I realize I was really screwed.
      Relatives came to the rescue. We had to wait two hours for the wrecker to show up so I could give the dude my ignition key.
      Today Progressive called to say I'll have to pay $500 for $3,832.96 of damage. Car should be ready June 6, the same day my son is supposed to have an operation for a herniated disk. So D-Day may prove to be problematic.
      The City of Hueytown has been fixing a lot of potholes along the stretch where I wrecked.
      My son in law said he saw an orange cone at that pothole from hell when he drove back home.
      I told him I would have appreciated that cone there earlier.
      I'm about to drive my rented car to take a good look at that impact site. It's beside a deli I like anyways.
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      • Posted by term2 4 months ago
        Is this what we have to look forward to as the society collapses slowly under the weight of liberalism?
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        • Posted by  $  4 months ago
          I'll try to write it like a lib I argued with so reverently enounced it unto to me~

          Di-VER-si-teeeee..

          He said that like some sort of a religious word. That was more important to him than the danger that comes with large groups of Muslims.
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          • Posted by term2 4 months ago
            I think that most religions and cults (liberalism today) do not like non believers at all and would rather they be gone. Most have become tolerant enough, due to necessity, to NOT advocate killing them outright. very notable exception is Islam. "Radicalized" seems to mean when they accept the whole Koran. How the he'll are we to know when that happensu
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            • Posted by  $  4 months ago
              That's why I prefer that all Muslims stay in their part of the world and leave everyone else alone. Unfortunately, that Koran demands a worldwide caliphate in which everyone converts, becomes slaves or be executed.
              My personal evolved from the past belief system is about loving everyone. I find that very hard to do when libs want to enslave me and so-called "radicalized" Muslims want to do far worse.
              I'm suddenly remembering a western in which John Wayne "turns the other cheek." But when he's struck a second time, he slugs the dude to the ground.
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              • Posted by term2 4 months ago
                if someone professes to want to kill me unless I do what they want, I dont think I am "phobic" to NOT want them around if I can help it. I agree totally about islam, UNLESS they abandon that part of their religion that is intolerant of my desire NOT to believe in islam.
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                • Posted by  $  4 months ago
                  Islam is a reason why I'm armed to the teeth and am a licensed concealed carrier.
                  I also live in the Birmingham area.
                  Thinking the Evil Hag would be president was another.
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                  • Posted by term2 4 months ago
                    It's a numbers game if are going to be blown. Up. Safety requires That you need to away from card carrying true believing muslims. Unfortunately we don't know how to separate out the in-radicalized from the dangerous ones. Therefore keep me all our
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            • Posted by jdg 4 months ago
              I view this situation in the long historical context and I believe they (Islam) are more of a danger to the rest of the world than either Nazi or Japanese nationalism ever was -- not least because they've always taught their followers that "peace" means "after we own the world" (a definition Lenin copied from them). It doesn't especially matter if we leave them alone or not -- when they decide they're ready, they'll go on jihad again. I'm determined that once that happens, and it will, we're prepared to fight a full world war, after which we've got to occupy their countries and put a total, permanent end to their belief system and culture the way we did Nazism. If we're not willing to do that, then in the long run, they win. There is no other way the "permanent cold war" with them can end.

              But maybe I'm wrong, so I'd certainly wait for them to strike first. (Although at some point we've got to stop believing that terrorists really are acting independently, even when countries like Saudi Arabia go on funding the schools that radicalize them, and start treating their attacks as acts of war by their sponsors.)
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  • Posted by ProfChuck 4 months ago
    Belief is dangerous because it means acceptance as true based on an authority rather than understanding. Belief is popular because it requires far less effort than understanding so in that context belief is the lazy mans ideology. Liberal progressivism is a secular religion and is a variation of Marxism.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 4 months ago
    Extremism is often difficult to distinguish from parody and tolling. So it's hard to know if he means that crap. My guess is someone who feels the need to write it on a sign knows on some level it's nonsense.
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  • Posted by  $  Wgingram 4 months ago
    `I knew (a few decades ago) that any individual or any group with a political, religious or other agenda - have blinders on when it comes to reality.
    When people start talking about their beliefs in such a manner, just walk away or run like hell.
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  • Posted by  $  MikeMarotta 4 months ago
    Christians believe the same things. Not all Christians do; neither do all Muslims. Jews no longer kill homosexuals, but it is still against their Bible. Not all Jews have old Abrahamic ideas about women, but some sects do. And it does not take religion per se to hold those ideas, as they are widespread around the planet. You can find practicing homosexuals who are against freedom of speech: snowflakes in their "safe zones."

    In fact, also, many people whom you would call "liberals" or "progressives" know full well the dangers of radical Islam, as well as the dangers of fundamentalist Christianity or orthodox Judaism ... or for that matter Buddhism... I recommend highly Christopher Hitchens's monograph, god is not Great. Hitchens even identified Marxism as a religion. (My review here: http://necessaryfacts.blogspot.com/20... )

    As insightful as Christopher Hitchens was, Ayn Rand was more cogent. She explained clearly why the mystics and altruists are a threat to civilization, and why many liberals and conservatives do not understand the nature of that threat.

    (And the graphic is a total fake with both images posed for the production.)
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    • Posted by Riftsrunner 4 months ago
      Radical Islamist and progressives (at least on the left wing side) currently have similar goals. The downfall of Western Society. Albeit for different reasons. Islamists want to make the world into the backward shitholes that the Middle East has become when fundamental Islam put an end to the egalitarian exchange of knowledge in the 11th century. When Saladin decreed that Mathematics was the work of the devil. Progressive left-wing proponents are Marxists who believe the current governments aren't using their powers to equalize society for those being oppressed. They are the epitome of wanting Ms. Rand's moochers and looters in reality. The problem is they cannot see beyond their beliefs and don't see that they are useful idiots that will be purged once they have served their purpose.
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      • Posted by  $  Dobrien 4 months ago
        Yes the first thing that the Marxist controllers do when they wrestle power is get rid (murder) of the useful vocal liberal idiots. The reason is they are the first to squawk when they realize they have been enslaved.
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    • Posted by  $  blarman 4 months ago
      It's incredibly misleading to talk about any individual "religion" with hard and fast rules. As soon as you have any reasonable size, you're going to have differences between the individuals about certain portions of their religions. I agree with you that making wide sweeping generalizations is poor reasoning (which is why it is curious you make one in your first sentence).

      That's why it is always better to talk about principles. Discuss the principles behind any given ideology and you not only get to the heart of the matter, but then have a true measuring stick for whether against which you can measure someone's actions.
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    • Posted by  $  4 months ago
      I'm a dictionary definition mystic but also became attracted to the philosophy of Ayn Rand due to the AS DVDs..
      Allosaurus is Latin for different lizard; nevertheless, I'm not the only one like me here in The Gulch.
      Have no fear no preaching from here.
      Religious fanatics repel me.
      I've met some.
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