Mike, you sound pretty scared about this stuff. Ever hear the story of what SARS did when it came to America? It died off, killed nobody. Any theory as to why that might be? Why can't we end polio in India? Really look into the science of this stuff and you'll start to be less concerned.

Sorry to hear that...always take care of yourself first.
Have your magnesium levels checked...
My thoughts are with you,
Carl

Not sure when I can get back to that. Have heart emergency with very low pulse rate near 35 and a very high BNP of 500. So need some medical servicing. Will find out today what can be done, I hope as simple as a pacemaker.

...Sobering numbers, huh? (no responses...)

Who's talking about "total isolation"? That's different that wanting to be left alone. Those are different things.

I surprised myself by watching the whole thing but it's an issue I am concerned about. Especially where the children of the next generation is concerned.

Crossing the blood/brain barrier was new to me and was worth learning. I would be interested in hearing your thoughts on that, no rush, we all have busy lives.

Sorry that was a MD speaking about metal and metal synergistic effects not RK Jr.

It is hard to spend time watching 10 hrs+ of something that can't even be unbiased in the first 8 minutes. E.g., in episode #1 at about 7:27 the film maker cannot even blow up the highlighted text honestly. He changes "autism" to a biased "AUTISM". At about 33 minutes, John Kennedy Jr. is talking about something he knows nothing about: synergistic effects of different metals in vaccines. No vaccine contains metals as far as I know. They contain chemical compounds of metals for various reasons. One place you might get pure metal would be the elemental or reduced iron in some fortified breakfast cereals.
I do not take the statements of reporters, as in the documentary, without question.
I do agree that many of the vaccines need not be given early or even later. My doctor keeps on me to get a very expensive vaccine for shingles even though I had chickenpox and much later shingles.
The idea is that it might reduce the severity of another case of shingles. So much for the idea that getting a viral disease when very young will give immunity for maybe the rest of one's life.
Listening to the whole documentary may or may not require objectivity. I would suspect that most viewers would be far from objective in their viewing habits. I do have trouble, but will do so, watching very biased stuff usually quasi-scientific stuff. At times it is hard to read some comments here in the Gulch that seem extremely biased to me, but I learn something from them.
I used to post to USENET humanities.objectivism until the idiots took over and Betsy and Steven went elsewhere to a highly moderated place. Just glad that The Gulch has some but not too severe moderation. Get rid of that and you get porn and some repeated posts of some idiot white supremest or anti-Jew or such taking over the threads.

Thanks for clarifying. If it was 30%, I should have lost quite a few classmates to measles in childhood. In fact, I don't remember anyone suffering any negative effects from measles, so I have to wonder how they define "serious complications."

1 I was joking about you. 2 I have not engaged any type of allopathic medicine or drug, not even over the counter for more than 25 years now...so let them go on strike...hell, I'll cheer them on.
3 Evidence based medicine? I think not, more like "lets skid by", I hate people and political based medicine...corner one of these creatures and ask them...would YOU take this crap?...most, I bet, would say NO! the conscious ones anyway.
There is something basically wrong with a system that only concerns itself with symptoms and not causes...you need to pay attention to both, ease the pain while you treat the cause. For most, it'll be poor nutrition, bad habits or toxic environmental overloads.

Truthfully Irshultis, you trust your schooling, government and the system way too much. We've been lied to not just about our history but the causes of disease and it's treatments as well.
If you watched all 7 parts you would of seen real Doctors faced with real life observations and woke up...many of the Doctors with their own children...these are the guys that know what really works and what doesn't, they lived it.

I was hoping you of all people here, would have been objective enough to listen to it all.

Careful with those joking labels or someone might think that you are just dumping a load of BS into the Gulch.
Time for the drug companies to go on strike to let you and those of like mind find out what the health of the world's peoples would be like trying to apply non modern evidence based medicine. Perhaps you can buy a shovel to help bury the dead.
Medical science, as with most science, is kind of over all asymptotic to the truth and not absolutely certain like your faith based beliefs.

Here is an article which I have only one partial disagreement with, the Precautionary Principle which can be applied , sometimes, irrationally.
But it all comes down to some form of evidence based science and thus scientific medicine and not just gut or knee jerk reactions.

http://www.actionbioscience.org/envir...

But what would I know as a BS (1963) from the that "pinko" University of Wisconsin Dept. of Chemistry and over fifty years of study and thought.

You might very well be correct.

Maybe he always was a looter and did steal his money making ideas, as the Apple founder said. Maybe he is just being who he always was, aftr all they did give us Win 10, which no one owns now, and which is inferior to anything but Win 8. That is looting.

Billy's in with the "Out" crowd whom think they are better than we. Don't know how a conscious human could end up with that bunch...maybe it was the vaccines that did it.

The government seems to think one size fits all, mandate, mandate. I am one of the ones with severe egg allergy, and cannot take most vaccines, and was very worried when government a few years ago began mandating vaccines.
We have to admit, some vaccines contain bad stuff. Chemicals that are harmful on their own.
I had German measles as a child (pre-vaccine days), got pneumonia, and fever 103. However, what nearly killed me was the cure, penicillin! Hives, fever spiked at 106 and coma followed the antibiotic injection. Sometime, drugs are more dangerous than the disease.
What really scares me is when the Queen's husband, and Bill gates start talking about how much of the population has to be reduced, in the millions, and Gates tells a group to whom he is speaking, "vaccines are the way to go'? Erie! I know the UN talks of required birth control, and pregnancy only by license, but was Gates referring to mandatory birth control, or soemthing else?

Sorry, I read it wrong as I conflated two sources. Complication rate is 30% (meaning serious complications that can affect the rest of one's life or lead to death) and death rate is .2%, .01% here in US (CDC).

If it's in the air then others would get it anyway. My point is that a non secretor does not respond to a virus unless it comes in contact with the bloodtype antigens directly.

Which line...the vids or the commentary.

I'm thinking we get enough mercury and aluminum from nature without being inundated by the likes of humanoids that insist upon doing For and In Spite of the body instead of empowering the body.

Thank you Freedom...that was my take as well...psst!...I'm thinking allopathic Irshultis has been working for the drug addict companies...what do you think?
Laughing...(joke)

"whether something is a poison will depend upon its dosage and nothing more."
The condition of the body receiving it (the disease ) is the most important factor. Virtually all the measles deaths are because of malnutrition before the disease. Hardly anyone died from measles in the 1st world before the vaccine because the people had healthy fully functioning defense systems. All the global stats on deaths are misleading when applied in the US. The real problem to solve is malnutrition and hygiene in the third world. Solve that and the measles death stats will be negligible (except to the specific families affected, of course.)

Sort of. I don't buy this line of reasoning.

Millions of possible deaths without vaccines seems to not faze you at all? Not just possible deaths, but guaranteed deaths as history would show.
As for your reference to mercury being used for centuries being quackery, that does not imply that there is no reason not to use a mercury compound for other reasons than to pretend that it somehow fights some disease. One context does not imply a different context.
Chemical compounds have different identities and do not act biologically the same, so elemental mercury has different properties than all mercury compounds and same for aluminum and its compounds. Those used in pharmaceuticals have been studied throughly and not just by drug companies. But whether something is a poison will depend upon its dosage and nothing more.

Do you have a source for the claim that measles has a 30% mortality rate? That seems awfully high.