A responsible discussion everyone should objectively listen too.

Posted by $ Olduglycarl 7 years ago to Science
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A 7 part series that will stun, inform and awaken those that are willing to listen to the political and life shattering issues of the day.


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  • Posted by $ 6 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No poisons.... just just monkey kidneys and human baby lung cells, no worries mate...laughing sarcastically.

    Yes mercury has been used for centuries...it was called "quackery".

    I posted these videos because they are the best reasonable discussions on the subject I have heard to date. These people are Doctors and lab techs...not crazy supplement providers and I thought it was important to share. There is some good information here that you won't get on the quasi pseudoscience sites on the internet.

    The MMR gives you three diseases at the same time...how do you think the body response to that...not very well I say.
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  • Posted by lrshultis 6 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Interesting how you can just toss off all those, in the millions per year, who died or had very bad outcomes before measles vaccination.
    As for MMR vaccine, mercury compounds have not been used for more than a decade but the autism rate still increases. The use of aluminum compounds has good reasons along with other chemicals.
    Also the dosage makes the poison and there is no evidence for any poison being added to vaccines.
    Wiki of course can be slanted any time politics gets involved as in articles on climate or medicine but with vaccines the INTERNET is rife will quasi- and pseudoscience. Just try to find out who is a propagandist or not. Those who sell supplements may not be the best to trust with scientific knowledge.
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  • Posted by roneida 6 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Mike Marotta,,, BUT,, did typhoid Mary, or any one else ,know what was happening????
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  • Posted by $ 6 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The measles vaccine "alone" was semi successful abet, lasting only ten years but the MMR (measles/mumps/rubella) vaccine is an abortion waiting to happen. Too much at once, especially to a population suffering from poor or no nutrition.

    I would not trust wiki fully, they are part of the establishment and have no particular attachment to truth, facts and accuracies.
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  • Posted by $ 6 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That's another point. Whom would be likely carriers and whom not...something else no one has looked at.
    My body, being a non-secretor, cannot infect others; my immune antibodies only exist in my blood, not in any other bodily fluids.
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  • Posted by $ 6 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Seems to me the establishment has wasted much time and money on these vaccines and we aren't really that much better off; instead of identifying why some get disease, why some even benefit from disease yet others surcome.
    Maybe that's too hard, less profitable or not even a consideration.
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  • Posted by $ 6 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Your forgetting the poisons in the vaccines and the fact that they are designed to breach the blood brain barrier.

    As far as my immune system being better for experiencing these diseases naturally is not to say that everyone should allow nature take it's course. The one thing I always promote is the work of Dr Peter D'Adamo which seems to have a system that at least tries and mostly succeeds at identifying those at risk.
    We all need to do our homework but then again, we haven't been taught that we could do a lot better of taking care of ourselves.

    Granted, the odds are against us finding the right protocols to follow for good health in this paradigm but even if we get lucky, we will likely get a bout of something or another that our bodies are woefully unprepared for.
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 6 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    A reductio ad absurdum argument would be that as a driver, you should "keep your eye on the other guy" so that people who drive drunk are not a danger to you.

    I believe that people who are sick but "catching a cold" or "getting over it" should not socialize. It is not that I need "total isolation" but that you have no right to bring your diseases into my environment. Otherwise we have Typhoid Mary who was not sick herself, but who killed other people with her germs. (From below ... https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post... )
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 6 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Of the children born in 15 years, 85% of the males will come down with autism. Half of all children will be diagnosed. You want to talk about "social loss"? That's not just my math, it's also from an MIT mathematician.
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 6 years, 12 months ago
    I believe that coming to work sick should be actionable. You do not have the right to infect other people. It is like waving around a loaded gun or driving drunk. Some people here disagree with me.

    Typhoid Mary did not get sick herself. She just made other people sick and dead. Some people here think that it was wrong to imprison her. That other people got sick was their problem, not hers. I disagree.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 6 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'm not talking about measles. You are right - Risks must be part of the equation. So should the freedom for one to manage their own person.
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 6 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well, we know that: they are only partially effective. Last October I considered getting a flu shot. My doctor told me that based on recent years, a flu shot might be only 25% effective - one chance in four that I would not get the flu this year if my only protection were the innoculation. However, the basic question was: Who do I work with? The doctor gets her flu shot because she sees lots of sick people and it is worth the opportunity cost. I considered it because of my work group (military base), but decided against it, and did not get sick... this time...
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 6 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well, it is an interesting point. I look to the great flu epidemic of 1918-1919. Back in 2014-2015, we freaked out when one person in the USA had ebola. Imagine 100,000 deaths because that was the case in 1918-1919. But everyone did not die... or even get sick.

    Some people are more susceptible than others and it is not just "good health" (paleo diet or whatever) but factors more specific and less well understood.
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  • Posted by lrshultis 6 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Why make up that nonsense?
    Just for some reality in the discussion from Wiki:
    "Measles affects about 20 million people a year,[1] primarily in the developing areas of Africa and Asia.[3] It causes the most vaccine-preventable deaths of any disease.[9] It resulted in about 73,000 deaths in 2014, down from 545,000 deaths in 1990.[5][10] In 1980, the disease was estimated to have caused 2.6 million deaths per year.[3] Most of those who are infected and who die are less than five years old.[3] The risk of death among those infected is usually 0.2%,[7] but may be up to 10% in those who have malnutrition.[3] It is not believed to affect other animals.[3] Before immunization in the United States, between three and four million cases occurred each year.[7] As a result of widespread vaccination, the disease was eliminated from the Americas by 2016.[11]
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 6 years, 12 months ago
    Polio vaccines - first Salk, then Sabin - worked and work. Smallpox has been eradicated because of vaccination. Smallpox, in fact, as we know, was the first vaccination. That is where the word comes from: VACA = COW. Giving people cowpox immunized them against small pox. While Native Americans were decimated or worse by smallpox, it was not always fatal among Europeans: it just left scars. As I noted in a different reply to Allosaur (https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post... ) , even if the diseases do not kill, the loss of personal time and personal productivity both for the afflicted and their caregiver add up to huge social costs. Vaccination is not perfect, but it is better than epidemics.
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 6 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Right. I also point out that some children do die of those diseases and many are left not better off, but worse, for having had them. Moreover, there is a huge social loss as diseases sweep through populations taking - if nothing else - lost productivity for nursing care for the afflicted.

    It is a trade-off. If a child could be proved to have been made autistic because of the vaccine, it must be true that the disease itself could cause autism in some. Vaccines are only "dead germs." If the dead ones do that, the live ones must do more or do worse.

    It is fallacious thinking to say, "I did not get sick again, therefore let Mother Nature always take her course." Your outcome was not another's.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 6 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Completely agreed! For all intents and purposes, vaccines are poisons themselves. To complicate the cure by forcing the body to fight off two at the same time is bad medicine. Those who are adding these "stabilizers" are ignoring the Hippocratic Oath: "Do no harm".
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  • Posted by $ 6 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    They should also take the poisons out! Unless they do, those that survive the vaccine will still be less than they would have been mentally and immunologically with out the vaccine.
    The surprising information is the benefits received by actually getting the measles virus and being protected against other diseases.
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  • Posted by $ 6 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The problem with these vaccines is they are designed to cross the blood brain barrier so the aluminum and mercury gets to the brain and does the damage.
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