Are Christians A Protected Group Under The Bill Of Rights?

Posted by khalling 11 years ago to Philosophy
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The word "Christian" is not mentioned in the Bill of Rights or the Constitution.
The phrase "protected group" came about after the passage of the Civil Rights Act, which is a socialist concept, and
U.S. federal law protects employees from discrimination or harassment based on sex, race, age, disability, color, creed, national origin or religion. It specifically relates to employment law issues.
Although it is NOT required by federal law, employer policies may also protect employees from harassment or discrimination based on marital status or sexual orientation. However, please note the Civil Rights Act of 64 is inconsistent with the Constitution. I am not going to say there was not discrimination, rather, discrimination persists(ed) due to state and local government participation which was(is) unconstitutional. I challenge anyone here to show me in the Bill of Rights where a group is a "protected class."

On this site there will be a natural dissonance when discussing "protected classes." Group think is dangerous. Any concept that pushes ideas that some group has separate rights from the individual members is pushing Force and slavery. But if one has to think that way (illogically) the only group which is acknowledged here is the smallest group: the individual.
So, if one pushes concepts that are part of a group-think, one will be likely challenged. It will be uncomfortable and there will be push back or ignoring if posts focusing on those issues begin to dominate. That goes for issues Christians are concerned with as well as those concerned with LGBT issues. But just as well for the O who is frustrated the site is not more committed to the study of Objectivism. Focusing on our similarities reduces dissonance. Those similarities should be reason and logic foremost. But all of us have to check our premises at times. Discuss


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  • Posted by 10 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Christians are NOT a protected class. YOUR thoughts are protected...why do you keep on this-you just open the door for any group who wants special privileges
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  • Posted by 10 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I am not trying to force anybody out of a public forum! I was simply testing your sentence on validity. Valid has a meaning. If I say any religious belief is valid, that would not be logical. As well, if someone were on the Gulch spewing hate we would vote them into oblivion. I was not insinuating that you would advocate for either. This is an intellectual test...
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  • Posted by $ stargeezer 10 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    KH - Really now, I can't believe you stooped to THAT. please tell me where I said one word about violating some law or killing somebody. You're not that thick witted. There's a huge difference from your discriminating against a person by trying to force them out of a public forum and saying that so embody must have their head cut off.

    Either this will be adult and debated with reason or forget the whole exercise - including your opening proposition that it's about Christians.

    Let me know if you want a debate with reason or a pig sticking, because I won't be your pig.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 10 years, 12 months ago
    There are no protected groups defined in the Constitution. The liberties of individuals are protected.
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  • Posted by $ stargeezer 10 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Christians have rights because they are religious (which is a protected class) The ONLY reason they need any protected status is because of those who think that religious people don't have a right to those things that are different. Discrimination based on religion or the lack of religion is contrary to the foundations this nation was founded on and objectist thought. You may not agree or like what I believe about religion, but you have no right to deprive me of my thoughts.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I kinda got that...but I still don't get the point? A is A I did not see that showing the unconstitutionality of the Civil Rights Act even though it may be upheld in court becomes Ais A
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 10 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think he's trying to remember Heinlein's famous quote, "Calling a tail a leg don't make the name fit".
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  • Posted by 10 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    there are all sorts of religious beliefs you would not say are valid star
    sharia law upheld by our courts? it's happening...
    sharia law upheld by our courts because you are free to express your religious freedom to kill your wife or daughter because she shamed you?
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 10 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Technically, we're all sub-human. In that we are members of the various races, which are subsets of the human species.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "Proclaiming that a hours does not have four legs does not cut off one"
    I do not understand what this means
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  • Posted by 10 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    and why would you be for a group over an individual's rights? You are not consistent on this. Separate the logic out. We will disagree on the intent of the 1st Amendment I guess, which surprises me-I usually think of you as an individual's liberty kind of guy. Why are are you so smug in the middle of a group on this...not consistent with your arguments on other issues
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 10 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The 1964 civil rights act is an abomination that was never a part of the Constitution. We are ruled by the Constitution.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 10 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Did ANY of those justices SIGN the Constitution?

    The Constitution means what it says, not what politically motivated guys in black robes say it said centuries later.

    Funny, someone asserted in another post that one needs to read the Bible in the original to understand what it means, but you're perfectly okay embracing the interpreted opinions SCOTUS made centuries later.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I am trying to point out the differences between protected classes and individuals. I am well aware women are covered under the Civil Rights Act.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 10 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    To protect people from whom? Each other? I thought we were all "equal"?
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  • Posted by $ stargeezer 10 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Concious-1978 - No 'special' priviledgess, but no discrimination either. All equal, everybody as entitled to the products of their mind. And if a person has a religious belief of some kind, it's just as valid a thought as the thoughts of a person who believes in nothing.

    All equal.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Are you doing ok? You're fired up-so that's a good sign. I am not suggesting that this site would ever discourage participation by those of religious persuasion. Quite the opposite. We share much. I only said there would be a natural dissonance. I included other natural dissonances as well. Most on here are well familiar with the Bill of Rights. My argument is your use of the phrase "protected class." I completely disagree that Christians or any other religious group are protected classes. INDIVIDUALS are protected. that is all. Feel better
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