Thanks Zenph.

Check out Jordon Peterson on Youtube. A Canadian clinical psychology professor in the middle of a foo-fa-rah over his teaching and public statements about this and connected subjects. As straight thinking a professor as I've ever listened to.

Agreed.

My mother was not permitted to have a credit card unless my father was also on it. I was not allowed to handle a gun during Basic Training in the AF. I was not allowed to go to certain colleges, or apply for certain professions.

Yes, it is cultural. Thank goodness our culture has changed for the better in this respect. What we have to do is rein in the absurdity of where liberal Feminism has currently gone and is going.

As with most things, women do not need 'help', we just need to not be blocked from doing everything that we can do.

Jan

Actually they were...I've seen skeletons that were hidden from the Smithsonian which for Darwinian reasons discarded them all.
Still finding them in the middle east and other places in the world.
I myself doubt that they ever reached 15' plus but some photos are convincing. That's why I say that they must have developed during times of very high carbon counts in nature. Certainly there were plenty of resources to support such creatures because they were around for a long time...they are mentioned in tablets all over the world.
PS...they were not human like we are.

Hahahaha...oh, forgot, what was I laughing about?

That seems to be more cultural than generational...just look at islam today...still culturally and consciously backwards as if they never grew up.

However, no matter what females choose to do the American culture will always value them highly...unless feminist and their nonsense continues dividing us further, we won't find ourselves on separate planets any time soon.

I still think that men and women are each half of a permanent quantum entanglement that benefits existence itself.

I do not think that the giants of past ages were what we would consider giants now. There are two phenomena that I take into consideration when thinking about such things: one is the magic cauldron/sword/centaur and the other is different populations.

The magic thingie is well known in mythology: It is an item that is real - a bronze cauldron, a steel sword, a man riding a horse - which is put into legend because it is unique to the current culture. It subsequently becomes more and more miraculous (a cauldron that is never empty) so that it continues to be spectacular (ie in an era when bronze cauldrons are now common).

The second is that there were lots of branches of the human tree wandering around. Encounters between H sapiens sapiens and other branches might have described the other branches as giants; maybe they were taller, maybe not. (There is doubt that the giants of Norse myth were considered huge in early references.)

So I do not think that there were Nephilim per se.

Jan

We obviously have different opinions on this!

I am looking forward to where people can chose to sculpt their bodies the way we select the next car we will buy.

Insofar as transhumanizing devices: when they get a memory chip for humans, sign me up.

Jan, wishes she could remember why...

Don't know about the Amazons but the nephilim were certainly perverted. But the Amazons may have had those giantism genes.

I've been wondering though, if the 3000ppb carbon of the past may have had an influence in their size and the size of the Dinosaurs as well.

Laughing...

The mad marker downer has made it to this post...it's a shame.

To get to that "Genetic level" will require monkey piss, baby parts, deadly viruses and foreign DNA, not to mention transhumanizing electronics.

I'm afraid they will no longer be human...that seems to be the trend of the non-conscious, compartmentalized scientist and humanoidal delete class of creatures.

I have been thinking about this and I want to remark that Gender Equality is similar to Environmentalism: A really good idea that people have elaborated to the point of absurdity.

I am personally grateful to be born in a generation when society did not require a male caretaker for me. I am also, as a martial artist, very aware that while men are stronger than I am, that does not mean that I cannot beat the crap outta them for fun or in need.

Jan

You are quite correct that we have not gotten to the genetic level yet, though I think that is coming (and will not be difficult in one case). But I was reacting to your description of the process as cosmetic surgery. I have known individuals to trans, and the process changed things such as the roughness of the skin and the density of the muscles. These aspects are more sophisticated than surgery can provide.

Jan

Perverted Amazons? Only in your dreams, Old Ugly Carl!

Jan

Aw cummon. Non-humans are MUCH nicer than that!

Jan

FYI, Mike, the (-1) is not from me even though we are not in agreement here. I never downgrade an opposing argument unless it contains personal attacks or other totally distasteful verbiage that doesn't belong in the gulch. Even then I may simply respond with something sarcastically humorous.

Respectfully, jlc, the physical changes are remarkable, but those physical changes are limited to what the underlying cell structure will allow using chemical (hormonal, et al) treatments and surgery. My argument is the cell structure has not changed in spite of the cosmetic modifications. A is still A no matter how you paint it. For example, if a thorny white rose desired to become a thornless yellow rose, with a little surgery and chemical dye I could make that happen and a remarkably beautiful thornless yellow rose it may appear to be. However, its underlying cell structure is still "thorny white rose". In any case whatever its appearance now is, it is still a rose. If the thorny white rose wanted to be a hummingbird, that would be a bit tougher.

I do not doubt it

The sole function of males and females and their accompanying difference is reproduction: the male supplies and injects sperm, and the female incubates and gives birth to the offspring. All else in the world, in economics, politics, agriculture, arts and sciences, is window dressing, the support system for the prime objective.

We aim for survival, safety, comfort and continuity through all the protocols and organization practiced by consensus or force. The dizzying variety of social establishments, from utter slavery to militant egalitarianism, are all experiments in natural selection.

In our time, we are in the midst of consciously evolving equal rights for all individuals, regardless of gender. Feminism in demanding equal rights, equal pay, equal authority, choice of roles, is saddling females with greater burdens: education, careers, and childbearing. Some even want equal participation in the military. Good luck, ladies.

For survival, pregnant females need protection, mostly supplied by males. Division of labor, specialization of functions are more efficient. Females in our enlightened times should have the right to choose for themselves how to conduct their lives and whether to consent to lending their bodies to reproduction. All their hormones push in that direction. Pregnancy and childbirth could interrupt a high-flying career, but such a female would have resources to hire nannies and not tie herself down to the daily grind of diapers and formulas.

The equality demanded by each individual is the right to decide how to run their lives, in cooperation with their fellow humans. Equal but different, different but equal—no one dictating to anyone else, all interacting only by mutual consent. And that includes whether to be impregnated, and by whom. Only women can exercise that right. We can only wonder how many more experiments of social formation humans will have to struggle through to reach a rational consensus of individual rights.

Exactly... but it seems also, epigenetically speaking...it's been passed on by gene expression.

Or, more historically speaking: Stalin's useful idiots morphed into useless idiots...

Going to ARand on the "knowable identity" you mention, a person's happiness is for the person to decide and to achieve. My thought, coming from Eric Hoffer, is the trans-everything, et al., have no individual ID, are (from the 1960s) trying to "find themselves" instead of creating themselves. They attach to the weirdest "cause" they can to achieve substance. They cannot see themselves as individuals, have no internal validation and are screaming,, "LOOK AT ME!!" to gain external validation.

Probably because they do not connect to the mind and therefore the quantum field...they have no knowable identity, not to mention a dysfunctional ego which of course is a made up identity.

Making the most of the current social license with just about everything, I've found that claiming I'm a 3'6" midget (sorry, little person...) though I'm 6'4, claiming my heritage is black (sorry, African American), though I'm Welsh and Swiss),does not get me much succorance. Wish they would make up their minds so I can see who I am no matter my genetics!!!!