But you fail to understand the cost to the business operator, it is not one days lost wages, it is that plus the days expenses.

Rational Review just picked up Frank 's article :
http://rationalreview.news-digests.com/a...

Certainly some so-called shruggers may use that as an excuse for failure. However, you did not address my point. How, other than violent revolt, do producers fight this political, social, and economic deterioration, much worse now that it was when AR wrote AS, and comparable in many ways to what was depicted in AS, if not shrugging? This time answer that question, if you can.

I think I have been around and worked with people inventing amazing things and I have watched them build businesses. I have also witnessed how govt laws and regulations have killed their business -how they 've walked away from entire patent portfolios due to govt malfeasance and crony corruption. Db wrote about some of those businesses in his non -fiction book "The Decline and Fall Of The American Entrepreneur ". We depict them in our fiction books. We look for ways to send strong messages to candidates, reps and senators. But most importantly to wake people up to what has happened to US opportunities. You refuse to wake up. Or you were perhaps raised receiving benefit from the crony system or work for the govt.

Well Thank You...It is nice to see a like minded person be so bold as to put a plan together like this. I really want it to be productive by making a huge impact. Those "Who is John Galt."stickers would be perfect for that day...

If you engage in social media consider joining Franks FB page linked in the article. Lets get him lots of likes to show our support

The govt takes from you and gives to other groups -this includes preferential legal status to unions who strongarm either citizens or businesses to give (not value for value) through force. It is force if the govt backs their demands (you may not fire them etc.) How is it possible we 've gotten so off track from the original intent of the framers. How poetic when the producers cooperate on one day by not producing? It 's an elegant statement really. I recently read a book which I recommended to you btw, that estimated the avg person through taxation and regulation and currency devaluation due to money printing absorbs 60% of your earnings. So 60% of your production is govt owned. How is that not a form of slavery? What are you getting for that? Value for value?

Yes and one day' s lost wages is not as important as fighting for the Constitution and pushback of a welfare state gone wild.

Thanks. I think Frank has a great plan. Like -minded cooperation on Sept. 2 could have an impact for those who have not yet taken the steps you have. You've blazed a path for our generation.

people are free to serve one another? where, in there does "value for value" enter? still lookin' for a signpost.

I got lost here, somewhere around the place where unjust actions somehow aligned with "government actions they disagree with".
and then it seems to make sense for a while, and then I lose the trail of bread crumbs again.

Some "supposed supporters of objectivism" take it to a new level..." take what? objectivism?
I'm totally lost. hunh?

I thought it was your turn to be heather.

hmmm. You have just read several people say they will close, in their own fashions. There are people here who will notice and comment. I think that counts against the 'lead balloon-ness".
The problem with relying on the media for new is, if they don't report if, it didn't happen. So, there needs to be a way to make it more obvious to the public.

Ranter - and when?

Although in the same path, I'd rather not clutter the presentation of either event with the other. I think each would have more impact alone.

Do you think you could certainly build something generating amazing value, but you choose not to do it b/c you disagree with gov't policy? You've never said that.

This is *not* the same as just doing what you want to do. I'm obviously for that. If you want to take a few part time projects here and there, just enough to provide for you, it should be a free country to do that. If you want to try to build a business empire, that's your right. Living deliberately, doing what you want, is important fundamentally, and it has the consequence of creating an environment where people are free to serve one another by creating amazing things.

Many people who say they're not producing b/c of an unjust system say it's unjust b/c there are gov't actions they disagree with. If you added up all the things they disagree with, it might come out to around 50%. Probably most people disagree with 50% of what the gov't does. There's a real problem of interested groups promoting policies favorable to them. But I reject the narrative that there is a large group of evil looters who purposely raid the treasury for personal gain. There's a lot of pork barrel spending, but if it helps you the pork barrel looks like "bacon". The looters to those people look like people supporting the "public good".

In AS, this goes to an extreme for illustrative purposes to show how badly this could get out of hand. I strongly agree with this message. History backs it up.

I have not built an amazing business, but I watch people around me do a better job bringing people together and serving customers better and building something amazing.

How lame it would be for me to say I _could_ build an amazing business if only it weren't for the policies I personally disagree with, which must be the result of looters. I too don't agree with most gov't spending and intrusiveness, and I'm not blaming my failures on that. I used to think it was some liberals who could cry you a river of excuses as to why they can't get things done. Some supposed supporters of objectivism take it to a new level based on an interpretation of AS that I strongly reject.

as a student of Objectivism, I say, good point!

We don't need luck, we need organization! thanks

It's a start !

Shrug to the Movie for a twofer?

If we, who are followers of Ayn Rand, don't shrug, who will?

It is not a difficult decision for the employees as it is not their decision to make, it is for the business owner, he is the one who has his capital at risk. It will in fact suck for the employees, but it is not their decision. It is the owners decision.