We Will Not Conform

Posted by khalling 10 years, 12 months ago to Movies
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tomorrow night in theaters across the country. (showing in two theaters in my former city)


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  • Posted by 10 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    He was in the CIA? I see him more as an emotional appealer. I thought I would like the technology center he was incorporating into his " community " but that seems to be flash more than serios inventing. He does seem to align with the corporatists...so does Limbaugh
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  • Posted by 10 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If I was one of the kids getting the Friday food I would HATE it. The only way I could cope especially if my parents wanted the food would be to get cynical and contemptuous toward the giver. What an inefficient system. Having teachers determine which kids families could use help and spend their teaching time sorting and distributing food. Surreal really.
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  • Posted by katrinam41 10 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Good luck, CG. I hope your school is one that will actually teach the kids to think. I see too many schools who want those robots. In my writers' group, the younger members always got upset that I used so many words to describe people, places and ideas. They couldn't figure out what most of those words meant. When we lose a generation because they have no words to express a concept, how can they understand a concept, how can they even know it exists? This is what our schools have done for at least three generations and the result is now becoming apparent to those of us who had that old-fashioned schooling that taught us to think critically.
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  • Posted by katrinam41 10 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I saw the math problems my grandchildren have to solve--they make no sense at all. To arrive at a simple answer is impossible without simple memorization of the tables, and the kids aren't taught that anymore. I will find the email my son sent with one sample question and post it for you. There are many more examples in other subjects. As for my kids' schooling, the teachers tried to get my son on Ritalin for most of his young life because they found him "disruptive". I refused and he eventually was stuck in a slow learners' room. In January of his senior year, the so-called counselor told me there would be no graduation because of three missing math credits. He also told me my son would never be able to do math. Well, to put it mildly, the man was wrong. Before his class reached graduation day, my son had gone to the local college for his GED, paying for it with a part-time messenger job, then enlisted in the Navy. He started out with 100 other kids in sonar school and 1 1/2 years later graduated with the other 5 that survived the course. To do that, he had to pass algebra, geometry, calculus and trigonometry. The school system tried every trick in the book to make him conform, to make me ashamed of my own kid for not conforming. The fight during those eight years was no fun, and now he has to battle for his own kids...
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 10 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If you look you'll notice. However, since you won't be in the classroom you will miss much. Some of it's subtle. So subtle many teachers don't see it. The story math problems with a leftist bent. The revised history. The food give aways. The collective children's books. Stuff that doesn't come home in a work folder.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 10 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "I am not counting on the public schools for my kids, although we're thinking of sending them there b/c it's a short walk. We'll see how it goes. I do not have high expectations, but I do not think it's a conspiracy."
    And..... you don't think it's a conspiracy... I'll make such judgements, thank you very much.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 10 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'm saying I think you've been duped or are trying to dupe other people, but I may be singing a different tune once my kids start the program. We interviewed three schools, not counting the one we sued, and the one complying with CC seemed the best. We thought the school we sued was great, though, so we've been known to be wrong. I'm going be shocked if it turns out CC is anything more than some boring gov't standards.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 10 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    They're 4 and 6. We're planning on pulling them out of parts we don't like. Schools that would require a bus ride didn't seem much different. We've been known to pull kids out of a school and sue them, although I don't want to repeat that. We plant to supplement with additional materials and activities. We are fortunate that we can pull them out and homeschool if we so choose b/c our schedules are flexible. .

    Most people think their kids are above average, esp in the Upper Midwest (near Lake Wobegone), but if you met our kids you're realize how foolish this sounds. Our 6 y/o spots logical fallacies, and I think our 4 y/o does on a more intuitive level. It's just nonsense that we won't teach our kids critical thinking. You should meet us at least once before making such judgements.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 10 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes. Maybe Microsoft funds some of those startups, causing more jobs, requiring people to buy from its mature businesses, making money for shareholders on two fronts. Maybe it struggles and underperforms. Maybe it implodes and lots of people learn hard lessons that they apply in their next venture. Maybe it becomes famous for some minor division no one's heard of now. This is exactly how things should work. We don't want things to stay the same.
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  • Posted by KCLiberty 10 years, 12 months ago
    No thanks. Beck is controlled opposition. He pretends to be a rebel, but in the end always aligns with the corporatists and international banksters. He's very good, but that reflects his CIA training.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    we are not about creating work forces for Microsoft-we should be about creating entrepreneurs who explode Microsoft into a million pieces of good fortune for consumers....shhhh...microsoft isn't keen on that
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 10 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There's a problem that schools were created to produce workers who could follow procedures and do the three Rs. People still need to learn that, but almost anything that's based just on the "the three Rs" and following procedures can be done by robots or will be done by robots soon. People need to learn to think critically and apply technology, not to follow procedures, but write code for robots to execute.

    I am not counting on the public schools for my kids, although we're thinking of sending them there b/c it's a short walk. We'll see how it goes. I do not have high expectations, but I do not think it's a conspiracy.
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  • Posted by katrinam41 10 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Having dealt with Common Core for two generations (children and grandchildren), I suggest that you look into just what the fuss is about. It is dumbing down our kids and controlling education from the Federal level, neith4er of which will do this country any good, and worst of all, it discourages critical thinking. Back when my son was fighting the school system in 5th grade, bored out of his mind, I got hold of the Washington State manual detailing what our kids were supposed to learn. Seven attributes in all, one of which was "Ambiguity". I asked the teacher why our kids should learn to be ambiguous, and she told me it meant they would have an open mind!
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  • Posted by NealS 10 years, 12 months ago
    THANK YOU, looked it up and it's playing at lots of theaters at 8:00PM only tonight and next Tuesday night in the Northwest. I'm going just to support the effort to educate the populous. I must have been sleeping, as I never heard of it before this post.
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  • Posted by MikeRael101 10 years, 12 months ago
    I attended a Glenn Beck movie in the past. Way overpriced and with little value, or so I found. I looked at the price--$20 for 1 ticket. Joy(:: If it came on the Blaze at no extra cost, great. But $20 for it? Nope. I know, I'd miss the "interactive" part at home, but really and truly, how could it be interactive? I attended a tea party meeting billed as "interactive"--and it really was. The speaker, Ed Hudgins, came to us via the web. He only talked to us that way, as far as I know, not a few hundred different locations as with Beck's movie. After the lecture part was over, many of us asked questions and were given answers by Dr. Hudgins. Now *that* is "interactive."!
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  • Posted by teri-amborn 10 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes. Your posted article hits the core of it....just as the last 5 of The Ten Commandments when broken in reverse order is the pattern of evil.
    Thinking in abstractions and principles is the key to all understanding.
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