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  • Posted by STEVEDUNN46 8 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Really. Respond to t my entire post if you want to make a case. Remember when assad was not considered a threat?
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  • Posted by ewv 8 years ago in reply to this comment.
    You are more likely to be dead when the means of delivery are easier. Do you think it makes no difference when a dictator is using nerve gas?
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  • Posted by ewv 8 years ago in reply to this comment.
    The dictator of Syria is in charge and the bombs hit the airfield where the chemical weapons were kept.

    "Arguments" based on what you "hope" I do "not" say and where I do "not skate" are worse than bizarre.
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  • Posted by ewv 8 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Citing leftist conspiracies picked up by Ron Paul about how much they claim Saudia Arabia paid the US does not mean that we were "hired". Leading with a boring cliche as an alleged conclusion does not help. Please have some common sense.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Objective justice demands that you find the maniac who actually is using the nerve gas, i.e., the soldier(s) and airman (men) who are committing the acts.

    It is quite likely that Bashar al-Assad is a prisoner in his own castle and the military is running the government. But even so, guilt falls to the person who acts, not to the "ruler" who gives the "orders."

    I hope that you are not going to skate on the thin ice of Hiroshima and Nagasaki and say, "If you do not resist your evil government, then I am going to kill you to protect myself." Because that would be not merely illogical, but bizarre. Ultimately, it would come down to someone holier than thou demanding to know what thou hast done to prevent his oppression, making of thee thy brother's keeper.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years ago in reply to this comment.
    "You have a right to your own opinion. You do not have a right to your own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan.

    Gulf War's Cost to Arabs Estimated at $620 Billion - http://NYTimes.com
    http://www.nytimes.com/1992/09/08/.........
    Sep 8, 1992 - Direct logistical support for the 600,000 American and allied troops in Saudi Arabia between August 1990 and March 1991, plus the rush to build military airstrips and camps, cost another $51 billion, which was paid largely by Saudi Arabia and Kuwait.

    Donald Trump says Kuwait never paid U.S. back for ousting Saddam ...
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o.../...
    Apr 27, 2011 - Trump was referring to the Persian Gulf War in 1991, when a U.S.-led ... Saudi Arabia: $16.8 billion pledged, $12.0 billion paid in cash, $4.0 ...

    Who paid for 1991 Iraq Kuwait invasion war while US “made” 20 ...
    https://1muslimnation.wordpress.com/.......
    Oct 12, 2006 - Bismillah, Arguably the second Gulf war is now over. As the ... 75% of the war budget was spent by Arab country's Kuwait and Saudi Arabia.

    Did you know the Gulf War was paid for by Saudi Arabia and Kuwait ...
    http://www.ronpaulforums.com › Forums › News & Current Events › U.S. Political News
    Dec 3, 2010 - 18 posts - ‎14 authors
    I was watching a documentary on PBS that mentioned in passing something I was totally unaware of - the US asked for and got payment for the ...

    Gulf War Fast Facts - http://CNN.com
    http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/15/world/m...
    Aug 2, 2016 - The U.S. Department of Defense has estimated the cost of the Gulf War at $61 billion. Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states covered $36 billion.
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  • Posted by zonoz 8 years ago
    I just don't understand how Trump following up on what our former POTUS threatened to do is illegal. Had it been illegal when POTUS 44 threatened the very same action I would think there would have been an outcry then about its' illegality. But none was heard, just as nothing was said when 44 banned immigrants from certain countries but when Trump did the exact same thing people were outraged st his illegal action. Isn't what's good for the goose just as good for the gander?

    Besides, who really cares if what WE, the USA did in blowing them to hell WAS possibly illegal? It was done in an effort to prevent the absolutely inhumane use of nerve gas that had been prohibited for over 90 years.

    If uou were to come upon the scene of a young child being raped and after all non lethal efforts to stop the rapist failed, would any one of us not be able to kill the offender if the means were available? Even though murder is illegal, to save a defenseless child from further horror?
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  • Posted by ewv 8 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Anyone has a right to "interfere" with an "established" dictatorship. A maniac using nerve gas is a threat to everyone, creating an obligation to "interfere" in self defense against the threat.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Thank you for your service, but I found the actual numbers to be a pleasant surprise.
    "The only incumbent veteran from either war to lose Tuesday was Illinois Republican Sen. Mark Kirk, who served a series of two-week reserve deployments in Afghanistan. He lost his Senate seat to Democratic Illinois Rep. Tammy Duckworth, who lost both legs when her helicopter was shot down over Iraq in 2004."
    Military Times. November 9, 2016.
    http://www.militarytimes.com/articles...
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  • Posted by STEVEDUNN46 8 years ago
    Why did we interfere in a civil war in a country that had an established government? Assad would have put down the revolution quickly without our interference. Much suffering wo uh ld have been avoided. Just like our government would put down an armed insurrection. He'll, they murdered a farmer over grazing and irrigration rights.
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  • Posted by ewv 8 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Saudia Arabia did not hire the US military. There were many foreign policy reasons for US involvement, whether or not you agree with them.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Saudi Arabia was wholly incapable of defending itself because vast majority of the people who live there - those not in the al-Saud family - have no investment in the nation. You and I are invested in the USA as an idea. The people who live in Saudi Arabia have no equivalent cultural heritage. For all of the pilgrims who come to Mecca, does anyone sing about the "land of the pilgrim's pride"?

    Do you believe that the USA sought treaties with Kuwait and Saudi Arabia to allow us to establish bases there from which to attack an evil dictator possessing weapons of mass destruction who was threatening our safety?

    Or do you believe something else entirely?
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  • Posted by ewv 8 years ago in reply to this comment.
    We are the victim of the international welfare state in many ways. It's real, not type casting.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 8 years ago
    Like it or not, the civilized world has for some centuries looked to the most powerful regime to punish cruelty. For the last few centuries that regime was the British Empire, until WW II. The U.S. inherited the superpower mantle since then, and have been drawn into the "morality police" role. Obama tried to ignore the job, and Trump expressed a neo-isolationist view, but neither have been entirely successful backing out of the job. When Trump ordered the bombing of Syria, Europe, most Middle East countries, and most Pacific nations said they were glad to have America back. We seem to be the victim of type casting.
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  • Posted by ewv 8 years ago in reply to this comment.
    No, it didn't "sort of work out that way". It's an echo of misleading, snide leftist slogans. Foreign policy should be analyzed and criticized without such nonsense.
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  • Posted by $ TomB666 8 years ago in reply to this comment.
    There may be a bit of 'poetic license' in using that phrase, but it did sort of work out that way. ;-)
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years ago
    Judge Nap. is probably right. (He usually is). His explanation makes more sense than "our" explanation. Either way, it's not the Generals who suffer. To many of them, people are merely dots on a map. But it sure feels good to kick ass after 8 years of Obama.
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  • Posted by $ Radio_Randy 8 years ago
    President Trump did NOT push a button and launch 59 cruise missiles into Syria. He did NOT issue an illegal order to do so.

    The men and women who actually carried out the President's orders have a solemn duty to ensure that those orders are neither illegal or un-Constitutional. President Trump did not do this without the support of his people.

    The debate over this action will continue forever, but what is done is done and it appears that the majority of this country agrees with the President's actions.
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  • Posted by ewv 8 years ago in reply to this comment.
    "If Asad will use Saran on his own people, even if they are considered rebels, he would not hesitate to use it on troops of another nation."

    "A country that violates the rights of its own citizens, will not respect the rights of its neighbors. Those who do not recognize individual rights, will not recognize the rights of nations: a nation is only a number of individuals." -- Ayn Rand, "The Roots of War"
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