Man dragged off of overbooked United flight A man was dragged from an overbooked flight from Chicago to Louisville by uniformed men after he refused to give up his seat. Other passengers post videos
So when they cannot get enough people to "volunteer" to get off, they have a computer pick the "victims" Pretty Friendly Skies, eh?
This was to allow 4 United crew to fly to Louisville to staff a plane, but wouldn't it be orth having a small private jet available to shuttle the crew? Would seem a lot more efficient and customer friendly..
This was to allow 4 United crew to fly to Louisville to staff a plane, but wouldn't it be orth having a small private jet available to shuttle the crew? Would seem a lot more efficient and customer friendly..
The Idea that we live in an alternate realtiy is really starting to sink in.... What is wrong witht he world?? Make sure you read the fine print when purchasing your tickets...
I've only flown United once I think. But I will do my best to avoid using them in the future. (as I am currently looking for a decent priced flight to go see my parents!) I will definitely be avoiding them...
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This also helped me decide to cancel my United credit card today and save the $95 annual fee.
I'm so glad I do not have to fly for business often now. Air travel has been turned to torture by regulations and corporate stupidity.
While it's certainly not great for customer service, you don't own your seat. If they ask you to get off the airplane you have to do it, getting into a physical battle to keep 'your' seat does not reflect well on your judgement.
My wife started to get angry and I told her to relax, it was the airline's mistake and they would fix it. They did.
My wife and I got upgraded to first class. The other couple got some money and a night's hotel stay, and the people who got to the seats first got to sit in them! All in all, I think we won.
Anymore, they really search me when I fly. They see parts of me that only my wife gets to see. Ever wonder about that?...those videos that go viral of them feeling a little kid's crotch over and over? I see that and my mind automatically says, "What's really going on here? It's obvious after the xray and first touchy-feely that there's no weapon in the kid's skivvies. But the groping continues. It's not security. It's something else." Makes me sad for the kids...
One of the things I hate about flying is that the price fluctuates Widely. I am sure the last minute buyer pays much more then the months in advance buyer. When they get a rash of late purchases for higher rates, the overbooking is more likely. Just guessing.
Treat customers like crap. Praise employees who do that.
How To Ruin Your Business 102
Have police drag away customers who complain about being treated like crap.
How To Ruin Your Business 103
Legally renege on paid-for customer expectations.
This more advanced course reveals that saying the law on your side does not solve the PR problem of screwing over
paying customers and having police brutalize them when they do not comply with the said screwing over.
United was said to be worth $9 million less. Don't know how they're doing right now.
Maybe what I heard was near the top of the slide. Me dino dunno.
That way if ya let 'em go, they can't go running straight back.
They have to sleep off the pinch first.
Flight not overbooked. Has a bit more of the information complied.
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Especially the gif (last one!) Just sharing :) just to lighten in a little bit!
Was it remotely wise? Not a chance.
Should United be punished? They will...they will, but not by government.
when the gate agent start bidding to remove passengers from an overbooked flight...the price continues to go up until there are enough volunteers...ALL volunteers get the final price...why they went to a computer selection is beyond me...maybe a change in procedures at United...it is not that way at American...
http://thefederalist.com/2017/04/10/h...
They make it pretty clear they had options....
I'm not entirely sure this passenger really did the right thing. Wouldn't it have made more sense to submit a formal complaint? Airlines, generally, try to pacify inconvenienced passengers, but maybe they've changed in the half dozen years since I last flew.
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/un...
It appears they may have an issue on their hands, and the "doctor" may get rich (or a bunch of lawyers).
Of course, this is why it makes the news - there is nothing about the other 3 passengers forced off from the same flight.
The video of the passenger returning to the flight (how/why did that happen?!) also shows odd behavior and appearance.
None of this any excuse for the business practice, of course. One issue with this practice is when you bring government officials on board to enforce part of your "service" you are losing a lot of control.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4muxx...
But with all due respect to United, once a passenger is seated, I'm sorry but you have already committed to service that person. You can refuse to seat them in the first place, but that's it.
And I, too, have been in situations where the flight has been overbooked and someone opted to take the payout. But that was voluntary choice and an agreed upon adjustment to the contract. This was a unilateral adjustment to the contract terms backed up by physical force. Physical force is usually reserved for government - not private contract disputes.
Sounds like a few of the people are still shocked by this. This man might be fairly new to America, possibly not understanding the deal so eloquently pointed out here by others. Too bad for him, if so. Welcome to America.
The fact remains that a passenger on a common carrier is required by law to follow the instructions of the crew members.
I'm not going to argue in favor of police breaking someone's nose and knocking his teeth out, but I - and nobody else here - witnessed what Dao did at the outset of the forced removal.
What is directly perceivable in the video of the incident is that Dao began screaming like a wild animal from the moment the police moved toward him with the intent to physically remove him. It's uncertain whether he started screaming before they even touched him, but rational people do not refuse clearly-stated instructions from police, much less begin screaming like stuck pigs and expect the police to say, in effect "Oh, well we've clearly upset the man, maybe we should just leave him alone and go home now." We do not know whether Dao physically resisted the cops - which would be a criminal act in itself - but that too is a possibility that would definitely contribute to the level of force the cops used.
I'm not a big fan of conservatism or of the National Review, but they published a piece on the 11th that makes some good points about reasonable vs. unreasonable actions, by Dao, United and the cops alike. And no, even if you've bought a ticket, you do not own the plane and you do not own the airline. In the case of claiming breach of contract for being removed from a flight solely for the airline's convenience, civilized people take the issue to court, after-the-fact. There is no such thing as a "right" to refuse or to physically fight against armed police and to expect them not to respond in kind:
http://www.nationalreview.com/article...
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