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CA Is Heading Due Left and How You Are Paying For It.

Posted by $ nickursis 7 years ago to Government
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An excellent perspective and assessment of just how much damage Kalifornia can do to all of us. I almost thought I was reading Atlas Shrugged....
SOURCE URL: https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasdelbeccaro/2017/04/05/ca-is-heading-due-left-and-how-you-are-paying-for-it/4/#147802ca5485


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    Posted by Dobrien 7 years ago
    Save a tree huh. Overgrown forest mentioned thrice. Please draw your own conclusion.

    The Sierra Nevada Conservancy recently published a new report update detailing the dire state of California forests. The combined effects of bark beetles and drought on overgrown forests in the state resulted in about 83 million trees dying between 2014 and 2016. Overgrown forests facilitated the spread of bark beetles. Trees became more vulnerable as the drought reduced their ability to secrete resin to ward away these insects. Additionally, the drought, warmer temperatures, and overgrown forests fueled large, catastrophic wildfires.

    Typical leftist result.... ruin what you claim to be helping.
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    • Posted by $ 7 years ago
      Dob, the flip side is they then take their poor management as "the results of Global Man Made Climate Change" and as an excuse to pass ever more crazy laws. The article cites their crazy laws as a cause for a reduction in farming and production, and Kalifornia was THE state for that, growing fruits and veggies for a lot of the country, even in winter. Now, take it a step further, and what do you have (after you get rid of the pesky farmers)? More water for the cities, where the people who, if finally pissed enough, might out vote the Dumbocraps. Get rid of a few evil farmers, and save you a@@ at the same time. Nice....
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    • Posted by fosterj717 7 years ago
      Amen! He who manages least manages best! These silly leftist "tinkerers" are the reason for so many problems across the board! The best things these clowns can do is "Don't just do something! Stand there"! The law of "Unintended Consequences" will almost always prevail. So far the Progressives haven't gotten anything right however look how much damage they have been able to do! Amazing! Simply amazing!
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  • Posted by Mitch 7 years ago
    I live in California and know for a fact that this article is only touching on the issues. The left has hijack California and brain wash the rest of the sheeple. It’s amazing to watch; even the electorate is in lock step with the left agenda:

    The people of California has recently voted to release the inmates the committed “non-violent” crimes like rap of underage children. My small town had to fight a judge from the bay area where they wanted to place a convicted child rapist in our town. The convict was being released because of the law that the California voters approved. We only won because the judge felt that the convict would be harassed in our community. If you like living next to convicted felons, California has a community just right for you with a rapist.

    California voted to ban plastic bags. Now we can’t have a bag to take our groceries out to the car. Here is the funny part, the law went into effect the night the law past. The lines in the grocery store were incredible, I can tell you how many times I heard “I voted for this law but I had no idea”. I said I read the law and maybe you will next time yourself. A few people complaining about the situation obviously voted for the law, I was a little more direct. One poor idiot threw a tantrum in the middle of the grocery store after he was complaining about the situation and I responded that the idiots that voted for the law because they didn’t read the law. Started to throw is food around the store after purchase. I’m assuming he voted for the law… If you like to carry grocery bags into the store, you should move to California…

    California restricts tobacco and e-cigarettes but allows recreational pot. They just increased tobacco tax by another $2.00 dollars. If you smoke pot, move to California…

    California forces alternative life style education of your children, removing the rights of the parents to op they children out of the education. They have an on campus “club” to promote this lifestyle and children that attend are asked what sex they think they are… They are offered 16 different sexes to pick from. If you don’t see a problem with this, you should move to California…

    California allows for people to use the bathroom or locker room that they self-identify as in that particular moment. If you can’t see the problem with this, you should move to California.

    I could go on but I must get back to work so I can pay the way of the other Californians. Once you all move to California, I’ll leave.
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    • Posted by DrZarkov99 7 years ago
      Ironically, plastic bags today are manufactured from corn starch, designed to degrade in land fills. No one took the time to discover that. Fabric grocery bags are carriers of bacteria due to the occasional liquid spill inside. No one took the time to realize that either. That's the problem with the radical left: they don't take time to think of the consequences of their well intended "improvements." Jerry Brown sees nothing wrong with neglecting maintenance of roads, bridges, dams, and canals, while spending billions on the high speed train from nowhere to nowhere. If we clipped California's wings a bit by reducing the federal money to just emergency response and military that might send a wakeup call (but maybe I'm just delusional).
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    • Posted by fosterj717 7 years ago
      My condolences! I feel your pain because I live in another "brain dead" state (New Jersey). We have a bunch of functional illiterates who live and vote here as well. Who did away with poll taxes and competency tests? Must have been another functional illiterate who got further than he/she should have. Obviously not the brightest bulbs on the tree. Oh well "stupid is as stupid does"!
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  • Posted by voodoo59 7 years ago
    The bigger problem are those Cali refugees who are leaving the state for greener pastures. They move in to an area (I'm a Colofornia native) and think it's great. Shortly thereafter, they think, "Wow dude! in Cali we had a law..." and they transform the host area into an over-regulated version of the hell hole they left. This std (state transfer disease ) is not treatable and will kill the host over time. Forget the Mexican border, we need a wall on the eastern border of Cali!
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    • Posted by fosterj717 7 years ago
      Yep! Like New Jerseyans who are fleeing the stupidity of the state but taking their silly brand of Progressive politics with them to where it is now better! Fools don't realize that they are just bringing the same garbage that they are escaping from with them. I like them to the plague of locusts (devouring and destroying everything that they touch). Sanctimonious fools!
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    • Posted by $ allosaur 7 years ago
      I've heard and read the same complaint made about New England libs who move, often due to retirement, to Florida and other Southern states where winter is warmer.
      Their indoctrinated minds just can't cope with freedom.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 7 years ago
    I think the founders set up the Constitution with two features to prevent this:
    1. A limited central gov't, leaving power to the states
    2. Features to make sure all states had a voice.

    We have just eroded and stopped following #1.

    Regarding #2, the boundaries are no longer along the state lines. When they founded the country, some states were agricultural and some were industrial. They made one gov't that would work for both. Now the lines are more along urban/rural.

    An immediate thing they could do is #1- start following the Constitution. I don't know exactly what to do about #2. My thought is #2 as the founders created it is completely broken, but it wouldn't matter as much if we had kept #1.
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    • Posted by fosterj717 7 years ago
      You're correct! Lincoln did good however at the same time he was doing good, he was gutting a key component of the US Constitution! Between the enumerated powers that remain and the stripping away of the ability of a state to easily secede from the Union (Texas being the exception), our country has forever changed (sometimes not necessarily for the better).
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    • Posted by $ 7 years ago
      That is pretty much a summary of the whole issue today Federalism run amok.
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      • Posted by $ 7 years ago
        Although, the article also illustrates aptly why just working on total votes is a non starter, a lot of Kalifornia is like Oregon, rural areas are conservative, urban democrat, and that is because the democrats are perceived as Santa Clause 365, that gives them incredible power against the rural self reliant types, who have to pay for it all.
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    • Posted by DrZarkov99 7 years ago
      One thing that would be a start is the abolition of the 17th amendment and redirecting senators' interests to the people of their state, instead of to their party. Selection of senators by the state legislatures gets rid of the big campaign expenses and takes influence from the party power brokers.
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      • Posted by CircuitGuy 7 years ago
        I have heard this claim but never understood it. Maybe I need to read a book on it. It seems like changing who elects senators just changes whom they have to pander to. Intuitively it seems like it would be easier to do a sweetheart deal with members of the legislature than with the entire population.
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        • Posted by DrZarkov99 7 years ago
          Senators (most of them anyway) deal more with their party bosses who determine who gets backing for reelection than they do with their constituents. By removing the motivation for money raising, the party elite would lose their control over senators. The state legislators have to answer to the people who voted them into office, so the line of influence and deal-making would be closer to the voters than it is now.
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          • Posted by $ 7 years ago
            Doc, not so sure, oregon has a big Dumbocrap party machine that makes all the choices, even the Republicrats run a litmus test on you if you want to run, I failed, when I told them I did not support all the party ideals, unless my constituents wanted me too. They didn't like that answer....
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            • Posted by DrZarkov99 7 years ago
              It's been said many times that you get the government you deserve. Democrats took it for granted they would "own" Oklahoma in perpetuity, having had an authoritarian majority for decades, but the voters decided the Democrap party no longer believed in their values. Republicans are now firmly in control, with supermajorities in the state House and Senate. However, the voters have put the Republicans on notice that they are being watched, and can just as easily be removed if they don't do their job.
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              • Posted by $ 7 years ago
                That is good for them. It is a function of the amount of money they control. The more people percieve their free ride is due to a specific group, the more leverage that group maintains. Obviously I would say that an analysis of the money programs in OK should present that some programs either became too painful to continue, or they dropped off, making an opening for the Republicans. As long as people focus on what is in it for me at a personal level, politics will be a dysfunctional concept. I believe this has been so for the last 2000 years, so it is not a new idea, but it is a root cause for many of our problems, IMHO.
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  • Posted by dukem 7 years ago
    Here I go again.

    I have been a part of this trend for over 40 years. I'll skip the details. Came to CA when it was paradise (mostly), left for greener pastures 15 years ago to central Oregon (rural, sort of) and now the inmates of all types are fleeing CA and nesting here and bringing all that crap with them. We went from Republican to Democrat in my area almost overnight, it seemed, and it shows. No money to fix potholes, but we sure do have enough to keep funneling to the palaces and nurseries they call schools, resulting in more of the same. I call them "safe spaces for snowflakes." Wish I had originated that phrase.
    Why don't I leave? That's my next step. But where I want to go it's getting almost the same way (Colorado).
    Thanks! Now I feel much better! (Insert sarcastic grimace.)
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    • Posted by $ 7 years ago
      dukem, I am in complete agreement, being on the west side, even in a Republicrat county, they have their own brand of imperialism, which is similar to the Liberal one, they do not do anything to stand up to the looters, I have given up on trying to get the Republicrat representative (Goomberg) to actually do anything beyond pander for money for the coast...
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      • Posted by dukem 7 years ago
        Nickursis:

        I always appreciate your postings. Makes me feel that I am not alone in the struggle, as does being a part of Galt's Gulch.
        This whole opportunity of a website is what keeps me sane, truly.
        Dukem (somewhere in the fog of Oregonian liberalism).
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  • Posted by fosterj717 7 years ago
    This is what happens when the inmates get control of the asylum! The lunacy is palpable! It is starting to look like there is no sanity left in that state. The suicidal tendencies of the morons that have been elected at all levels (local/state and federal) have the same insane outlook. Do they actually believe this is going to turn out well for any of them? If they do, then they are truly delusional and should have their meds adjusted!
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 7 years ago
    As one example of life in California....

    Yesterday we had a small gathering at a local park in an upscale neighborhood to celebrate my daughter's birthday. She's 7 now. At one point she took off her bike helmet to play in the large play structure. That got stolen. She was very upset about it as it was a neat helmet that looked like a dinosaur head. She wore it all the time. Then, my son and I were playing with one of those phoebe Frisbees...those ring-styled affairs that fly really well. Also stolen. I just see it as a sign of the times, of another example of living in California. Too many people here think nothing of just stealing stuff from kids.
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    • Posted by $ 7 years ago
      Nasty.. it also reflects some serious moral and social issues that apparently cannot be corrected by "freebies". In fact, the "freebie" mentality I would say, would lead to more stealing, because, after all, it's free too....
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      • Posted by $ Abaco 7 years ago
        I'm really getting sick of this place. Working to build my nest egg to get out with some options. It's just become a real shite-hole.
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        • Posted by $ 7 years ago
          Well, you won't get much of a break in Oregon, and Washington is worse..almost like someone is engineering it....
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          • Posted by $ Abaco 7 years ago
            They infiltrate the coastal real estate and bring it down with regulations and poor planning. If a place is nice they creep in like snakes. I've read of similar things in Austin, Durango, etc... I was just talking with a close colleague about this today. We were saying how we love our Mediterranean climate here. I realized that you need to go to another country to, hopefully, find such a climate in a place that isn't ruined.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 7 years ago
    As I recall there was a movement for California to become separate country. What a great idea. With Gov. Brown becoming President, it will only be a question of time before they are banging at the door to be let back in. Think of all the fun it will be to turn them down.
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  • Posted by CTYankee 7 years ago
    While the content is infuriating, I was struck by how poorly the article was written. It reads like a text for fourth graders! That's embarrassing.
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    • Posted by fosterj717 7 years ago
      Rule of thumb writing for business is that if you want your audience to read something you have to write it at the 3rd grade level. Perhaps that is what this author is trying to do however, I would say that the ability of this crowd is significantly better then 3rd grade level......
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