The Eight Never-Nevers

Posted by CircuitGuy 8 years ago to Education
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My kids' school plays this exact video, has them sing the songs, and promotes the message. Just read this summary because you can never get those two minutes of your life back if you watch the video.

Your grown-ups will protect you and sure things are good. They're there for you to keep you safe.
1. Never-never touch a gun.
2. Never-never play with fire.
3. Never-never go on wheels without a helmet.
4. Never-never dive right in. Ask before you get wet.
5. Never-never use sharp tools alone.
6. Never-never pet a dog without asking your grownup.
7. Check for traffic both ways before you cross the street.
8. Never-never ride in cars unless you're buckled up.

The cool thing is my kids seem to detect intuitively it's crap.

My son mentioned that adults who are old and gray and remember when kids could run around and play without adults constantly keeping us safe take it less seriously.

Possible reasons for the hyper-safety:
- Maybe there's a segment of the population, a segment >>50% women, who wants to focus on kids, but starting in the 90's started feeling uncomfortable saying their wants aloud. They did feel comfortable saying circumstances demand they make sacrifices. So they made parenting more complicated and difficult to get what they wanted without admitting it.
- Maybe people who were old enough to be aware of the Sept 11 attack but under 18, people who are now 21 to 34, were affected in such a way to make them more cautious.
- Maybe the hyper-safety stuff in the school is motivated to help the few kids whose parents are really irresponsible and leave dangerous things lying out without teaching their kids to respect them.

I do not believe there's a figure like Toohey behind it asking young people their dreams and then purposely quashing them. I do not believe politicians in Washington are the cause either; they respond to the zeitgeist rather than drive it. The only part I believe might be have a political motive is which one got the top Rule #1 position.

At any rate, the video reminds me how important it is to teach kids to handle guns, fire, and tools responsibly and to be skeptical.


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  • Posted by Dobrien 8 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Nobody cared because the reasoned understand that evil people with bad intentions are what causes crime and assaults. Guns are neutral.
    Guns be used for good or evil.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Inspired by Roy Rogers, Gene Autry, Hopalong Cassidy, Lash Larue Johnny Mack Brown, the Lone Ranger and the Cisco Kid all seen on TV, I played cowboys during the recesses of the second and third grades.
    I would actually point my finger and mimic gunfire sounds while pretending to ride a horse.
    And guess what?
    NOBODY CARED!
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  • Posted by Stormi 8 years ago
    Allosaur23's comment reminds me of the John Mellenkamp song "Cherry Bomb." My dad taught me to properly use a rifle at 8 years old,but not to pick it up as a toy. A few of the suggestions are okay, but most are brainwashing. They also tell them to rely on peers above family, or put another way, let little morons as inexperience as they are tell them what to do - like take drugs!Schools should teace academics, and if they cant do that, shut them up.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years ago
    During the late 50s, little dino carried matches at times. That was so I could light the fuses the cherry bombs and M-80s I could buy from a grown-up at a gas pump store in the Florida Panhandle. I don't think "convenience food store" was as yet being used.
    I would toss the bombs into a lake to admire geysers at least twice as tall as I was, blow up the sizable mounds of hated fire ants and to make a rocket out of an overturned bucket.
    Ah! The good life! Bring back the good ole' days!
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years ago
    Overt fear of Accountability, I suspect...people go to jail for not watching their kids these days, yet the culture is anti life...both seem to be avoidance conflicts.
    Or perhaps, crossed wires in the brain in a constant feedback loop!
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  • Posted by coaldigger 8 years ago
    Teach kids how to think, not what to think and they will be rational. They will evaluate the risk vs the rewards of anticipated actions and learn, grow, have adventures and enjoy their lives. Take that all away and we end up with drones, which we have a surplus of already.
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  • Posted by 8 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Looking both ways is the one I agree with the most, and it's the only one that doesn't start with "never never". Usually "never" and "always" claims are wrong because it only takes one counter-example to invalidate them.

    I agree with helmets and seat belts, but I will point out that car seats are more difficult than seat belts. I think if they came out with a design to modify seat belts to work for small children, we would still prefer a more ungainly approach. The culture right now likes to make caring for kids difficult. We take comfort in the ritual of strapping into car seats and strapping on helmets. Each little thing is no big deal, but it adds up to lot of hassle that makes us feel safe. I used to bike to the park with friends when I was six y/o, but now well-meaning neighbors asked my 8 y/o playing at the park if he was okay to be separated from his parents. The helmet is a symbol that biking to the park is a scary thing that needs special equipment and probably a parent hovering close behind. Despite their proven safety benefits, I almost oppose kids' bike helmets for that reason.
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 8 years ago
    I mentioned Gever Tulley's learning camps here in the Gulch:
    https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post...
    You can find other links if you google his name. He lets kids play with fire and sharp knives, among other amusements.

    The other day at work, some of the other old salts remembered back to high school when it was not unusual for kids to drive to school with rifles in gun racks. Back then, there were no school shootings. Note also, though, that they lived in rural areas, not urban. So, culture was a factor. Still, the point was made.

    (Wearing a seat belt in a car is appropriate. Checking both ways for traffic is similarly a darwinian requirement.)
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