We officially have new cloud types for the first time in decades

Posted by Dobrien 7 years ago to Technology
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Official acknowledgement of chemtrails they now join the cumulus as part of nature.

With global Cooling underway (Entering into a grand solar minimum) and large ice builds in Greenland and Antarctica The AGW crowd announces Geo/engineering scheme . The AGW crowds plan is to get credit for this cooling. Instead the should be warning and preparing for coming crop failures that have already become reality in Europe and the wheat in that region seeing new forms of wheat rust .
SOURCE URL: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/03/24/look-up-first-new-clouds-30-years/99574628/


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  • Posted by $ Susanne 7 years ago
    http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-n...

    I think it may be time to log off of here... when I start reading conspiracy theory junk on this site, it makes me want to cry. So much for reason, for proof, for legitimacy... is THIS what Objectivism has come to? Condensed K1 vapor is a secret government plot? GAK.

    I got a business to run, projects to finish, and reality to contend with rather than waste time on Chemtrails and other nonsense (what's next? The dotgov pumping secret Q waves into your brain to control you? Secret carrier waves on TV and Radio mandated by the FCC to subconsciously force obedience among the masses?)...

    Sorry, but... y'all have a nice day.
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    • Posted by freedomforall 7 years ago
      I appreciate the link, Suzanne, but it doesn't actually disprove the theory scientifically. They admit the trails are so much more obvious today than 20 years ago but only speculate on why without any underlying data. Getting opinions of scientists without actually funding scientific experiments to prove the opinions is not helpful.
      Personally, I have noticed them and have no idea why they are much more obvious, but I do not have the funds to do experiments.
      BTW, the scientist from Carnegie that heads its ecology effort appears to be a global warming believer if the quotes in this article (from Aug 2014) are accurate:
      https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/ar...
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      • Posted by lrshultis 7 years ago
        What theory might that be? I am not sure that there is even a hypothesis to disprove there that is of any importance other than that one can get an idea and run with it for more future funding.
        I have not, here in southern Wisconsin, noticed any change in appearance of contrails other than greater numbers of them, over the last 60 years or more.
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        • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 7 years ago
          I have out east up until this past year, now they seem to disperse normally without creating cloud cover...up until the change, I thought it was just increases in air traffic but I also am aware of other natural things that effect cloud cover...but geoengineering is still on the table...it would not surprise me in the least.

          However, this article is disturbing none the less. These creatures are screwy, they scream about the environment then go right out make it worse.

          "Some" of these so called new cloud formations are due to our weakened shields leaving us vulnerable to cosmic radiation...
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  • Posted by rbunce 7 years ago
    You just new this had to be "connected" to Climate Justice...

    Also telling is the last bit about needing to understand clouds... they play a significant role in Earth's climate and what is clear over the last several decades, the Climate Justice models do not do clouds well if at all.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 7 years ago
    Saw this over the week end and got caught up with all his vid's. Told everyone that complained about the weather or food prices.

    They will definitely make it colder than it would of been and they will definitely kill us off as planned.
    Yea...Ben was saying the same thing; that they will take credit for the cooling.

    There has Got to be a way to stop these creatures.
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    • Posted by 7 years ago
      This cloud naming and the disclosure of
      "The Experiment" all is to legitimize the reckless seeding of the earths atmosphere with nano particles.

      I say stop !!! they don't have my consent.

      I am surprised how little notice from the average Joe this gets. Well not that surprised since half the people walk around with their head up their.......
      Most of the rest get their news conventionally which means ...no news.
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      • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 7 years ago
        I will tell you though, that some of these clouds are created by cosmic rays...not all of them are the result of geoengineering.
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        • Posted by 7 years ago
          I agree but not the checkerboard ones.
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          • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 7 years ago
            Correct.

            Interesting to note: A year ago and a few before that, we would see countless "contrails" turn into full blown cloud cover, there were days I would swear that the Star Trek Nexus, wave after wave, was approaching; but this past year has been completely devoid of such sights...except for a few "Noctalucent" clouds from time to time...it's been pretty normal. Go Figure.

            Working in a building situated on long Island Sound and being able to view cloud cover all the way to the ocean side of Long Island, one really gets a sense of what is normal and what is not.

            I also think that living on the Connecticut shoreline and connecticut being a major liberal enclave...the creatures that want to screw with mother nature and possible kill us all off...will not be sh#ting and Pis#ing where they sleep...
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              • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 7 years ago
                Just tried to vet this out, find out more...seems some folks might be jumping at straws but still the saying is interesting and if at all prophetic would probably speak to a coming natural event...just like the sky scenes described in the Bible, ie, aurora's (angles and bulls), disturbed cloud formations and a gama ray event, (the trumpet sounds) etc.
                Didn't read about this one in Forgotten Civilization, (the role of solar outbursts in our past and future) by Robert M. Schoch.
                Most of these prophecies were based on recurring natural events and grand cycles.
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                • Posted by 7 years ago
                  It is a long stretch but the sky description is similar to many described today.
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                  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 7 years ago
                    Agreed and was worth consideration, however, haven't found a sincere look at this prophecy...it's a shame too...we might otherwise have learned something new.
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                    • Posted by 7 years ago
                      I found this from Wikipedia
                      culture
                      The art film/avant-garde opera Koyaanisqatsi references both the Hopi term Ko.yan.nis.qatsi ("life out of balance"), and three Hopi prophecies —i.e. warnings or eschatology.

                      "If we dig precious things from the land, we will invite disaster."
                      "Near the day of Purification, there will be cobwebs spun back and forth in the sky."
                      "A container of ashes might one day be thrown from the sky, which could burn the land and boil the oceans."

                      Like Nastradamus these warnings are very vague and given enough time almost anything could happen. More interesting is the Hopi traditions
                      And confounding understanding of astronomy.
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                      • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 7 years ago
                        I read all their prophecies...the sky thing sounds like a meteor shower.

                        If we dig precious things from the land has me scratching my head...sounds kind of liberal/ greenie to me...I am sure there is more to it than that; however, most of these people saw no use for resources from the ground.

                        Funny thing about spontaneous insights by pagan bicameral man, even if you know the language and the meme of those times it is often confounded. Many of these insights, though useful and profound are often tainted by mysticism's. Mysticism's need not be mystical religion or even about gods or creation...they could simply be, "I can't do it", I'm not worthy, don't step on the cracks...etc.

                        A big turn off on one of the sights I looked at was a Giaia...talk about Mystical nonsense!
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                        • Posted by 7 years ago
                          With an oral tradition much like the old game of telephone the original information is twisted or altered over the generations.
                          With Shaman as the tradition depositories, mystical or impossible to explain stories are just simply good for business.
                          Also translations into other languages are not seamless so words or meanings can be substituted.
                          I can't help but think of the word angel which in Greek means messenger ,
                          And had no religious meaning at all.
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                          • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 7 years ago
                            Yes, language does confound itself naturally over time but as I have observed in bicameral man that these stories and prophecies made it through unscathed until certain points in history...can we say, post Christ, post fall of Rome or even the invention of the Vatican???...might it have been the emergence of an "incomplete" awareness of self without the ability of self inspection...ie The "Lie" as a tool of power?
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    • Posted by mccannon01 7 years ago
      Who are these people? I'm shaking my head here in disbelief over such nonsense. H2O is a bi-product of burning jet fuel and will always leave a contrail in a cold atmosphere. Heck, in the frozen north where I live my '04 Ram pickup leaves a "contrail" on really really cold days. One heckuva cloud in the driveway while warming up, too.
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      • Posted by freedomforall 7 years ago
        The issue is that contrails disappear very quickly. The so-called chem trails do not disappear. They create a pattern in the sky for hours. I do not know why.
        For example, your truck's "contrail" disappears instantly and all the aircraft contrails 20 years ago were gone in minutes.
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        • Posted by mccannon01 7 years ago
          Thanks, freedomforall, but I'm still not buying into the poison-the-earth-contrail conspiracy. I'd like a definition of "very quickly" and I'm old enough to know that 20 years ago (or even 30 or 40) contrails didn't necessarily disappear in minutes. It all depends on altitude, temperature, wind speed, ambient humidity and how much H2O a given engine type is dumping in the atmosphere at a given moment (accelerating, decelerating, cruising). Yes, I know a contrail is composed of a little more than H2O, but even a natural atmospheric cloud of H2O can last a "long time". Pick one out on a non-windy day and watch it. I say on a non-windy day so it doesn't get past your horizon before it starts to disappear. A better experiment would be if you're lucky enough to have a contrail go through the cloud you're watching and see which one disappears first.

          Hmmm, you got me thinking here. I wonder if the wife would buy it if I declare I need to do a scientific experiment on the next nice semi-cloudy day as I grab a case of cold ones, the chaise lounge, tunes, a stop watch and head out back for some serious observation and data collection. Hey, if you can't have a little fun with this...
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          • Posted by freedomforall 7 years ago
            The contrails I recall did disappear in minutes and the length behind the aircraft was short as a result. Today they can be seen for hours as very long streaks. Can't explain the differences in length and elapsed time compared to the past, and I'm interested in a rational, scientifically supportable answer. When I have time for longer observation and photo record keeping, I will;^) The weather is getting better for it every day.
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            • Posted by 7 years ago
              I have seen 2 planes at the same time very very high up one had a contrail that dissipated with in moments the other was long out of sight and an hour later the milky remnants remained.
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          Posted by lrshultis 7 years ago
          Where do you get that idea about contrails disappearing very quickly? Life time for them depend upon the properties of the atmosphere when they are created and afterwards. Just because some seem to last a long time does not give any evidence toward the presence of chemtrails.
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          • Posted by freedomforall 7 years ago
            I'm just looking for factual scientific data to explain the change that I have personally observed many times, Irshultis. I'm neither supporting nor disputing the article, but I am interested in an explanation for why I now see a cross hatched sky very frequently that I never saw pre-1995.
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          • Posted by 7 years ago
            In the twin cities the Chemtrails last for hours and the contrails last for ten to twenty Seconds .In December at -16 most commercial aircraft barely leave a contrail. The fact that they now have names and are calling them clouds is telling. Google images and do a little research.
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