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Should it be illegal to be a stay-at-home mom?

Posted by mminnick 7 years, 1 month ago to News
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Liberal progressiveism gone nuts. A woman can have a choice to abot her baby or not, but can't have a choicd to raise her children by staying home or not. Even if the choice is not forced until the children are school age, the lack of choice is astounding!
Everyone has the right to choose what they do and how they do it (unless criminal). So the LP's make staying home illegal.
SOURCE URL: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/03/24/should-it-be-illegal-to-be-stay-at-home-mom-why-feminists-are-so-frustrated.html


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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 7 years, 1 month ago
    Sometimes they say the opposite: http://reason.com/blog/2015/10/14/san...

    Quoting Sanders, "Every other major country on Earth [says]" people should do XYZ. Maybe it's not true and other countries actually tell their citizens to do ABC. The issues is the gov't telling the people what to do, not what it tells them to do.
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    • Posted by $ nickursis 7 years, 1 month ago
      And, on reading that, it is clear that governments around the world have, of course, gone way overboard on "requirements", and created the conditions for setting up the things the "abhor", like "discrimination":
      Over the next decade, companies were 6 percent less likely to hire women of childbearing age compared with men, 37 percent less likely to promote them and 45 percent more likely to dismiss them, according to a study by Daniel Fernández-Kranz, an economist at IE Business School in Madrid, and Núria Rodríguez-Planas, an economist at City University of New York, Queens College. The probability of women of childbearing age not being employed climbed 20 percent. Another result: Women were more likely to be in less stable, short-term contract jobs, which are not required to provide such benefits.

      Another case of cutting off their nose to spite their government "face". Needing more reguulation and rules to say you cannot discriminate against said women, which then throws the costs and burden onto business, which then goes out of business. An Ayn Rand story if ever I have heard one...
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  • Posted by j_IR1776wg 7 years, 1 month ago
    ” It turns out that compulsory education, a feat accomplished during the Progressive Era, was also a compulsory indoctrination into Progressive
    thought and twentieth-century Protestantism. Arthur Calhoun stated in 1919, “The fondest wish of Utopian writers was coming true, the child was
    passing from its family into the custody of community experts.”6 The power to shape children’s futures was taken from their parents and put into the hands of the government. Starting in this era, as John Swett, the founder of public education in California, stated, schoolchildren belonged not “to the parents, but to the State, to society, to the country.”7

    7. Quoted in Rothbard, “The Progressive Era and the Family.”

    Theodore and Woodward Andrew P. Napolitano
    Harper Collins Christian 2012

    It has been downhill ever since.
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  • Posted by Temlakos 7 years, 1 month ago
    This is all about forcing all children into "school" from the day they are born, for government teachers to raise them. These will truly be wards of the State. As such that practice represents a positive menace to free people.
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 7 years, 1 month ago
    No general social policy applies well to every possible case. If this mandatory leave were merely the way of one corporation, people would work there or not as they choose; but even those who choose to work there might be putting up with a cost, rather than enjoying a benefit.

    Another weak generalization is that "liberal progressives believe this (or that)" when clearly, some do, while others do not. In the Communist Manifesto, Karl Marx said that capitalism destroys the natural role of a woman to be a mother, forcing her to work. Yet, when they won their revolution, the Bolsheviks insisted on a woman's right to work -- and to roles traditionally given to men, such as being an engineer or doctor.

    The third problem is taking the words of one idiot and extending them. Apparently, Shaquille O'Neal believes that the Earth is flat. What group do you want to put him in so that you can excoriate them all?

    Finally, tying all of that together, the generalizations all fail at the individual level. In our 35 years of marriage, my wife has always been the primary wage earner; I have always had the second income, even as I earn twice her hourly rate. I was always the one to take the kid to school. (My wife took the kid to the doctor.) I adjusted my work to meet the needs of the home. We can discuss further how that came out. Just to note in closing: Some long months ago here in the Gulch, I said that I had not seen a large increase in retail prices despite the inflation of the money supply. One woman here quipped, "Who does the shopping" and got some thumbs up for that. But the fact is that I do the grocery shopping.

    Generalizations fail at the individual level.
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    • Posted by CircuitGuy 7 years, 1 month ago
      "What group do you want to put him in"
      I think you hit the nail on the head with this group stuff. It's at best empty calories to divide people into groups and then point out how your group is superior.

      "might be putting up with a cost, rather than enjoying a benefit."
      It seems like only a cost to me. If people who have an agreement have change where one side can't provide what they used to, e.g. the employee cannot do the same work or the employer cannot provide the same level of paychecks, they have to sit down and see if they can still work together. If they cannot make it work, it's better that they go their separate ways. I am fortunate to work with really good people who I believe would do their best within reason to accommodate if the paychecks stopped or to accommodate if someone couldn't provide the same service because of a life change of some sort. I don't see how a bureaucratic rule is helpful. It's not just that I do not believe in gov't interference. It's I don't understand the mechanics of how it would work. If for some reason we couldn't make payroll, I would expect people quickly to find a place that can make payroll reliably. I wouldn't want charity. People can try to be helpful and accommodating, but when the rubber meets the road no one can make money grow on trees.
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 7 years, 1 month ago
    “No woman should be authorized to stay home to raise her children. Women should not have that choice, because if there is such a choice, too many women will make that one.”

    And the idiots call conservatives "fascist"? Beware those who would legislate your life, they are further down the road to tyranny than the rest...
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  • Posted by Herb7734 7 years, 1 month ago
    Just Liberal Party nonsense. Another ploy, albeit a weak one to obtain more control over the citizenry. A stay at home is harder to control than a a person with an outside job.This type of suggestion is why the LP is not taken seriously by many.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 7 years, 1 month ago
    These creatures really, really, need a smack upside their heads...maybe by some miracle that would Re-Boot their brains.

    It's easy to see that all this crap is an outright war on Conscious Human Beings, and existence itself...something I've been writing about for a long time.
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  • Posted by EdGoldstein 7 years, 1 month ago
    Policies like this have been implemented in all communist countries. Usually associated with a "great leap forward" of some sort.

    Ayn Rand's whole philosophy is an answer to such evil.
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  • Posted by ChuckyBob 7 years, 1 month ago
    The more I hear and see what's going on and passing for serious social/legal proposals the more I think that I am living in 1984 and A Brave New World.
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  • Posted by $ DriveTrain 7 years ago
    Obviously not, but on a tangential issue, I think a major catalyst in the collapse of civilizations is the default in proper parenting, the definition of "proper parenting" including things like: the actual parents actually being present; the basic rudiments of ethics being taught as non-negotiable absolutes from the earliest possible age; etc.

    If anything should be illegal - again, nothing in this context should be, but for the sake of emphasis - it should be the practice of allowing anyone other than an actual parent to raise a kid, or worse, to put a kid into a "day care center" so that he or she is essentially being "raised" by a mob of fellow-toddlers. For details, I recommend an essay titled "The Comprachicos."
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 7 years ago
    Governments hate the mother-child bond. Why? Because they are infiltrated with leftists totalitarians. I could connect the dots on that one. But, I don't have the time today.
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