KACZYNSKI

Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 3 months ago to Philosophy
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An interview of Ted Kaczynski By James Patterson. The Unibomber, Kaczynski has an I.Q. of 177: "It's simple really. The more we ask technology to do for us, the more power we have to give it. Right now the world's most brilliant minds are designing artificial intelligence and robots that they think will solve all our problems but will only spell doom for the entire human race! Human beings can't handle this kind of power.Who could? Once AI and robots are in place, they will either destroy humanity outright or give one person -- the head of Google, say -- a measure of godlike power that Caligula never dreamed possible.Right now, who is really more powerful? Google or the NSA? How about tomorrow? I tried to stop all this from happening. I saw what was coming."


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  • Posted by 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Trump certainly has created an interesting dynamic.Watching his attempts at governing would be a case study of a unique kind, if I didn't have children, grandchildren and great grandchildren that I care about.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    As well as this: From Kaczynski's Manifesto
    15. Leftists tend to hate anything that has an image of being strong, good and successful. They hate America, they hate Western civilization, they hate white males, they hate rationality. The reasons that leftists give for hating the West, etc. clearly do not correspond with their real motives. They SAY they hate the West because it is warlike, imperialistic, sexist, ethnocentric and so forth, but where these same faults appear in socialist countries or in primitive cultures, the leftist finds excuses for them, or at best he GRUDGINGLY admits that they exist; whereas he ENTHUSIASTICALLY points out (and often greatly exaggerates) these faults where they appear in Western civilization. Thus it is clear that these faults are not the leftist’s real motive for hating America and the West. He hates America and the West because they are strong and successful.

    16. Words like “self-confidence,” “self-reliance,” “initiative,” “enterprise,” “optimism,” etc., play little role in the liberal and leftist vocabulary. The leftist is anti-individualistic, pro-collectivist. He wants society to solve everyone’s problems for them, satisfy everyone’s needs for them, take care of them. He is not the sort of person who has an inner sense of confidence in his ability to solve his own problems and satisfy his own needs. The leftist is antagonistic to the concept of competition because, deep inside, he feels like a loser.

    17. Art forms that appeal to modern leftish intellectuals tend to focus on sordidness, defeat and despair, or else they take an orgiastic tone, throwing off rational control as if there were no hope of accomplishing anything through rational calculation and all that was left was to immerse oneself in the sensations of the moment.

    18. Modern leftish philosophers tend to dismiss reason, science, objective reality and to insist that everything is culturally relative. It is true that one can ask serious questions about the foundations of scientific knowledge and about how, if at all, the concept of objective reality can be defined. But it is obvious that modern leftish philosophers are not simply cool-headed logicians systematically analyzing the foundations of knowledge. They are deeply involved emotionally in their attack on truth and reality. They attack these concepts because of their own psychological needs. For one thing, their attack is an outlet for hostility, and, to the extent that it is successful, it satisfies the drive for power. More importantly, the leftist hates science and rationality because they classify certain beliefs as true (i.e., successful, superior) and other beliefs as false (i.e., failed, inferior). The leftist’s feelings of inferiority run so deep that he cannot tolerate any classification of some things as successful or superior and other things as failed or inferior. This also underlies the rejection by many leftists of the concept of mental illness and of the utility of IQ tests. Leftists are antagonistic to genetic explanations of human abilities or behavior because such explanations tend to make some persons appear superior or inferior to others. Leftists prefer to give society the credit or blame for an individual’s ability or lack of it. Thus if a person is “inferior” it is not his fault, but society’s, because he has not been brought up properly.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    This sounds critical to me. From his Manifesto:
    THE PSYCHOLOGY OF MODERN LEFTISM

    6. Almost everyone will agree that we live in a deeply troubled society. One of the most widespread manifestations of the craziness of our world is leftism, so a discussion of the psychology of leftism can serve as an introduction to the discussion of the problems of modern society in general.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Shouldn't they make sure to include him, they are interested in all inclusiveness aren't they.
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  • Posted by ewv 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Unabomber Kaczynski wasn't interested in criticizing the left; he was part of the viro anti-industrial revolution and was influenced by radicals like Earth First in selecting his targets to kill. When he was finally caught, a copy of Al Gore's book was found in his primitive wilderness cabin.

    Excellent sources on the Unabomber's background, goals and actions are:

    Ron Arnold's EcoTerror: The Violent Agenda to Save Nature -- The World of the Unabomber, Chapters 1-3 "The Bomb", "Manifesto", and "The Bomber" pp 1-101.

    Alston Chase's Harvard and the Unabomber: The Education of an American Terrorist.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That's kinda what I said...the insane part is a lack of self awareness therefore knowing the truth and the problem but applying an incorrect solution. That solution, lacked conscience.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    islamic harmony is Not much different than the ignorance of pagan bicameral consequences of the sky is falling and it's your fault the gods are angry.

    Kinda sounds like our very own demoncraps of the left and progressives now doesn't it.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Why am I thinking of Donald Trump? No, I don't hate that rampaging bull in a RINO china shop. Half the USA appears to hate him, though.
    Certainly do all the libtard liars of the mainstream media.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Kaczynsky is an example of an insane truth-teller. Truth, i:e: that which corresponds to reality, is right no matter who says it. You may hate the person mouthing the truth, but that doesn't necessarrilly make it untrue.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It is the failure of a life-affirming philosophy that keeps up with scientific progress that's the major problem. We know how to use the stuff of the universe to destroy one another, but for 99+% of humanity, not a clue as to how to work together in hermony, peace and happiness. As an aside, Islam has taught us that harmony is possible without peace or happiness, we really need the whole package.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Power or as you put it, autonomy to work on one's own toward a goal must include the ability to focus down line through every consequence in the achievement of that goal.

    As I have observed, not many have this ability or desire on their own therefore it should be rare indeed, that an individual be fully trusted without some sort of guidance from someone who does.

    Mankind has evolved way too fast. I fear that many have skipped over the important considerations in the attainment of our goals.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 3 months ago
    Herb and Dob...this is a key example of one that is chock full with compartmentalized information.
    I contend that this is what IQ is and nothing more unless of course, one has a conscience; which only comes with an awareness of the subconscious, which I contend also, is our connection to the mind. That's where wisdom and conscience comes from. Without it, one is a very dangerous entity.
    IQ alone, really means nothing unless it is integrated with conscience and the mind...the very source of self control, introspection, morals, ethics and a profound understanding of the consequences of ones behavior or actions.
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  • Posted by mia767ca 8 years, 3 months ago
    same argument for govt cradle to grave protecting us from ourselves....
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  • Posted by Dobrien 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The fact that that much of what he said was spot on about the leftists was a surprise to me. I had also considered him a murderer, a freak who thought it ok to be judge, jury and executioner with little regard to collateral damage or personal hygiene.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Berkeley, the university designed like granola. Once you get past the fruits and nuts, all that is left are the flakes. He is truly intelligent and much of what he has to say is brilliant. Sadly, he is also a maniacal nutcase.
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  • Posted by Abaco 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    He taught at UC Berkeley. I can't help but think that being in that environment really influenced him.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 8 years, 3 months ago
    Hi Herb7734,
    I was compelled to read some of his manifesto because of this post. I had to quit around the 160th numbered paragraph he seemed he was going on and on. He did refer to himself as we throughout. I found much of his description of the leftist collectivists to be very well examined
    I certainly have a different view of him after reading 1/2 his diatribe.
    I do have a much different view of technology
    than he does. I agree that tech makes it easier for evil people to be more evil. It also has many upsides for good.

    I found this very interesting: " Human beings have a need (probably based in biology) for something that we will call the “power process.” This is closely related to the need for power (which is widely recognized) but is not quite the same thing. The power process has four elements. The three most clear-cut of these we call goal, effort and attainment of goal. (Everyone needs to have goals whose attainment requires effort, and needs to succeed in attaining at least some of his goals.) The fourth element is more difficult to define and may not be necessary for everyone. We call it autonomy."
    " Autonomy as a part of the power process may not be necessary for every individual. But most people need a greater or lesser degree of autonomy in working toward their goals. Their efforts must be undertaken on their own initiative and must be under their own direction and control." I think there is a great deal of truth to this idea.

    My dad would always say you can be very smart but you need common sense. Kaczynski, with his terroristic acts sadly lacked common sense.
    Had he used his brilliance to create a message and understanding of the leftists flaws and agendas , his legacy would have been far more favorable and he taken more seriously.
    Regards,DOB
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