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Trump's Matlock Moment

Posted by freedomforall 7 years, 1 month ago to Politics
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"by recent edict of Obama, 17 US intelligence agencies are now able to share “intercepted” or invented information, one with the other, thereby greatly increasing the possibility of leaks, harassment, blackmail, and whatever else any one of them may want to inflict on any US citizen against whom secret investigations have been undertaken"
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  • Posted by coaldigger 7 years, 1 month ago
    First, and foremost, I want to be free. I want to be as free as I can be. I wish everyone wanted to be free. Free from anyone or anything that wanted to control them. Free from anyone else's religion, politics, lust for power and control of any kind. If all people had that kind of freedom they would be safe in the truest sense. Then, why is it that when we feel threatened, we think we can trade our freedom for safety? Is that not going in the wrong direction? Are you safer in prison?
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    • Posted by freedomforall 7 years, 1 month ago
      While I agree with you (and I think my actions are consistent with that) many people who claim to value liberty are not willing to do very much or to change their behavior to keep it (or at present, to regain it.)
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    • Posted by blackswan 7 years, 1 month ago
      WE want to be free - to pick our neighbors' pockets. That's why we allow this idiocy, failing to recognize that we're allowing our neighbors to pick our pockets as well. A real Potemkin village.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 1 month ago
    17 intelligence agencies is too many , WTF. How many just spy on US? I don't think Obama came up with all of this $hit. He spent so much time golfing and vacationing it must have been V. Jarrett or G.Soros or some other deep state turncoat.
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    • Posted by freedomforall 7 years, 1 month ago
      There have been many traitors in the White House in the past 25 years. Since the Soviet union collapsed they have been very busy creating new enemies to blame.
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      • Posted by $ Stormi 7 years, 1 month ago
        The Soviet Union may have collapsed, but communism did what it always does: pretend defeat but work harder behind the scenes. Gorby came over here acting like he was done, still carrying his Party card, and put their green programs in our schools, much as Hitler used environmentalism, and now our kids are brainwashed.
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      • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 7 years, 1 month ago
        Baloney. The claim of "traitors in the White House" goes back to the Federalists (Tories in disguise) and Republicans (French terrorists). The claim of traitors within the government only serves the interest of America's actual enemies.
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        • Posted by freedomforall 7 years, 1 month ago
          Based upon your posting here, imo, you place far too much trust in the federal government and have little tolerance for those who are critical of federal agencies that violate individual liberty while pretending to defend it. There is a big difference in local public servants who serve their community and political appointees serving themselves in DC.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 7 years, 1 month ago
    A key thing I took away from the 9/11 Commission Report was agencies had many pieces of the puzzle but were not talking to one another. There ought to be a way to have them sharing information without abusing it.
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    • Posted by freedomforall 7 years, 1 month ago
      If they don't violate the original intent of the constitution then their power to access private information would be less invasive and the data they could share would also be limited.
      If they violate the law (original intent of constitution and bill of rights) then all the people involved should be severely punished and banned from any future public sector employment or private employment that includes contact with any public servants (elected and non-elected.)
      The punishment for violating the constitution should be so severe that no one would even consider it.
      (The 911 commission report was a coverup, imo.)
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 7 years, 1 month ago
    McCarthyism. Sen. Joseph McCarthy said that he could prove the existence of communists in the State Department, but never did. However, the culture of the times was that this was plausible and therefore acceptable. But cultural suspicions are not facts.

    Whether Hillary Clinton deserves prison is not up to a shouting mob.

    Courtesy of Edward Snowden - who is harbored in Russia - we slipped too easily from a healthy American distrust and dislike of arbitrary power to the wholesale denunciation of the very agencies that provide defense against foreign intelligence operations.

    For the original newspaper account of McCarthy's speech before the Ohio County Women's Republican Club on February 9, 1950, see here:
    http://www.wvculture.org/history/gove...
    Remember that he never provided proof of a single communist, let alone an actual traitor.

    And as much as I enjoy the fine work of Liberty Unbound they do not pretend to be consistent, complete, or correct, only thoughtful and thought-provoking.
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    • Posted by $ Stormi 7 years, 1 month ago
      Actually, McCarthy was vindicated, but Hollywood never reads. With the Verona Project finally unclassified, in 1994, it was available to the public. The information in what was then top secret and still active, could not be released at the time. Now, it is available and Russia intercepts by the US, which were decoded, named names of those working in the US for the communist cause. Trade magazines and studio bosses complained about the communist atmosphere and sympathizers at the time, which is what got the attention of the House Un_American Activies Comm. But that we had such a thing now, as half of the Congress would be gone.
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    • Posted by freedomforall 7 years, 1 month ago
      You're right about one thing, Liberty Unbound was never supposed to be consistently representing a single ideology and rejecting all others.
      As for the rest of your commentary, I do not see the relevance to the original article.
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  • Posted by H2ungar123 7 years, 1 month ago
    Matlock moment?? BetterTrump should have a
    twitter-lock moment.....seriously!
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    • Posted by freedomforall 7 years, 1 month ago
      Given all the power at his disposal, it's immediately less dangerous than many other possible choices to relieve Trump's stress ;^) but it reveals a side of him that might be more appropriately hidden. OTOH, its past time for people to accept that those who are elected to office are no better (and often are less ethical) than the people they are supposed to represent.
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