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Moral Outrage: A Theory on Why We’re Seeing So Much of It

Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 9 months ago to Culture
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I've been saying this for quite a while now...so I'm not crazy or morally outraged. What we've been seeing with the left, the academics, the protesters, is an attempt to draw attention to others when they themselves are guilty. The difference is, these groups are not aware of their own behavior but somewhere deep deep inside, (you've got to go really really deep), they act out instinctively.

What's really disturbing about these groups is we're paying them to do so, money right out of your back pocket through taxes, donations and investments.

There is something to be said about Conscious Self inspection; but for the acts of government, politics, and destruction of your property, at our expense, we are justified to be outraged because we expected better of them.

So much for the separation of morality, ethics, accountability and state.


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  • Posted by scojohnson 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I know...

    I kind of chalk it to the Russian dominance of the oil markets. They need to strongly oppose to keep their Sierra Club wing happy.
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  • Posted by NealS 8 years, 9 months ago
    Until we weed out the underlying instigators, the one's paying for the others to blindly follow, nothing will change. Only the intensity changes, very similar to the changes we see over the four seasons.
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  • Posted by scojohnson 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think his reactions are basically in their opposition analysis. They don't need to be right, or really even sound like being sane to most Americans, they do this and have a high confidence that it will rattle his cage and provoke a response.

    That seems to be Trump's weakness, and it could easily bring down his presidency if he doesn't let the professionals start managing his daily message. He could easily go into the midterms looking like as much of a nut-job as they are.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    This whole contact with russia thing is bogus. I think Trump should blow it off and get on with what he was hired to do
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Funny, they loved Stalin and drueled over communism...but now despise a tyrant that once may have been their idol.
    Fickle this bunch is...
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  • Posted by scojohnson 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I keep thinking "when did the Democrats become anti-Russia hawks?" Remember the 'Reset Button'? Obama did nothing about Crimea. He did nothing about Ukraine, and he basically did nothing about Russian jets leveling Syria... but now we're suddenly supposed to be "outraged" when a Russian Ambassador talks to people legitimately doing their job? Such as AG Sessions, or I'll even argue General Flynn. With Obama on some stupid witch hunt to 'expel' 35 diplomats for whatever he thought the Russians hacked, then wouldn't it be kind of natural for the Russian Ambassador to reach out to General Flynn and say "Hey, before we do anything to escalate this, is this something you are going to sustain or should we just sit on our hands for 2 weeks until Dumbo with the big ears is out of the Oval Office?" And magically, Putin blew it off rather than turn it into an international incident.

    Newsflash... Maybe Podesta should have had stronger password than the word "P@ssword".

    Maybe some Bernie people were pretty pissed off at Hillary fixing the election and they just handed out the documents and the account login credentials. I find that dramatically more plausible than the Russians being afraid of a woman that is basically a walking policy vending machine. Put your half-million in and get what you want.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There is selective/hypocritical outrage and then there is justified condemnation. If I adhere to the laws of ethics and morality which are the expectation of society, I have a right to call out those who have similarly agreed to adhere to those laws and instead refuse to and to such a degree that they openly flaunt their rebellion. It only becomes hypocrisy when one is doing one thing and saying another. That would be one thing if it were an individual choice, but this is the policy and actions of an entire political party and it is consistent and brazen. Do I assert that it is morally reprehensible and that there is a superior way? Absolutely. So should you.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    islam is a pre-conscious, Old Testament, Bicameral Barbarian Culture...don't know why they never grew up...got to be genetic and I wonder sometimes if the same might be true for the Left!
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  • Posted by $ Snezzy 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "YOU HAD A STOP SIGN, BUDDY," yelled the fellow who ran a stop sign and barely missed hitting my car.

    (1) Accuse the victim of the crime. (2) Use the victim's stunned silence and open-jawed disbelief as admission of guilt. (3) Walk away, puffed up in false pride, to the cheers of the crowd.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thank you Ed.
    I heard it said that Mankind, being Mammals and having natures instincts are and should be better than mere animals. What you have demonstrated is that the Left are no better than animals and surely relates to my observation that they are not conscious beings in the same sense as we are. I can see in my work that many that have been victimized do have the ability, once aware, to gain introspection and create value. I have witnessed some stunning awakenings in the Neothink Society as did our Forefathers; But, as for some of the most vial on the left...there is no hope.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Islam is one very intolerant and violent religion. Thats why there isnt muslim outrage at the terrorists who praise allah. There are the islamic terrorists, and then there are the islamic sheep that dont like the terrorists, but cant say much against them because its in their own bible !! Kill the infidels.
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  • Posted by EdGoldstein 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The Left operates without a moral or ethical code that we recognize, because they reject the concept of the responsible individual capable of exercising free will. All leftist ideas come from German philosophy and since Hegel, German philosophy has been founded upon predestination in some form of social forces or even instincts, but never the responsible individual. All ideas of the Left are founded upon the supremacy of the gang in some form be it race, class, sex practice or any other dividing point. Since the whole basis of their belief structure is gang based, it is a short step to looking at life as part of a mob. To a leftist all the individual can be is part of a gang with the attitudes and actions as defined for that gang by other leftists. For a leftist being black makes you a victim and being white makes you an oppressor. This gang attitude is why all leftists are little Hitlers in waiting. They really believe the good resides in enforcing their gang values upon all.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 9 months ago
    I have noticed this during the last election. The charges leveled by the democrats against the republicans seemed to make more sense leveled against themselves. Same now. When I hear them now, I just turn them around on the accuser.
    All this Trump and Russia stuff- it was Obama who told the ambassador he would have more leeway on negotiations after the election. the dems met with the russians a lot. Its a witch hunt for sure to get rid of Trump. What a waste.
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  • Posted by skidance 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I read the book several times and was unable to understand how it was racist. Approximately the first third of the book described how low-IQ whites contribute to societal problems. Some subsequent chapters addressed possible solutions to racial aspects of the issue. Murray and Hernstein also stated that there are hundreds of thousands of black people in the U.S. with IQs over 130.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think his work might be better excepted by rational people if he addressed the culture of particular societies. Take Africa for example...most are pre-literate, non civilized and disempowered by those that hold power over them and usurp the money the UN bigots throws at them while instead of empowering, teaching and investing they decide to bring the rest of the world down to that level...to them, that makes everything equal.

    Truthfully, I have nothing but an extended Bow finger to show them.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Last point, spot on.
    We don't know the peramiters of the study and it cost's 40 bucks to find out...however, we can observe that the loudest of the loud, the least moral of the average and the most vial of the violent are in fact not aware of their own immorality.
    And yes, not expressed in the brief, those that follow, just for jollies or those that are being paid to agitate with no conscience in doing so.
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  • Posted by Lucky 8 years, 9 months ago
    The morally outraged. Screaming, violence, thuggery.

    Look at the screamers.
    Permissible as, according to academics, they are alleviating past guilt?
    Are they expressing anguish over past guilt, or are they showing childish solidarity with fellow empty heads?

    Libertarian conservative political scientist forced by a baying mob of students to abandon the stage in mid-lecture.
    Charles Murray, author of The Bell Curve, which examined possible links between race and intelligence, had to flee Middlebury College in Vermont with the assistance of security guards.
    The prof who invited had her arm broken.


    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/and...

    http://hotair.com/archives/2017/03/03...

    etc.
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  • Posted by Lucky 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Old Ugly gets jackpot.

    I should have read this more carefully before my other ramblings.
    Yes, they deserve the restrictions as well as protections that are correctly imposed on the immature.
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  • Posted by Lucky 8 years, 9 months ago
    The proposition is:
    1) that there are people who express moral outrage,
    2) that these same people have committed actions, or have held thoughts, which they now regret, and now want to expunge by the public expression of moral outrage.

    To make the case, it would be necessary to define 'moral' and identify those who belong to groups 1) and 2) and show that these groups are the same people. In such studies, confirmation bias is the rule. 'Seek and you shall find'.

    Perhaps the source paper reports on this effort.
    In the intellectualtakeout link no evidence of this is given.

    Example questions were probably- did you ever do anything that you now consider as immoral?
    Have you ever had an immoral thought?
    Two people answer yes to at least one point.
    Next question- More recently, have you ever expressed outrage at immorality?
    A few people answer yes. So case proven. !

    The summary concludes with:
    'hopefully the research .. gets us closer to understanding why people are demonstrating so much outrage'.
    I have given a simpler explanation - People like to join groups.

    Perhaps this could be tested by identifying sociable people and seeing how many of them express moral outrage, and v.v.
    As the same definitional and confirmation bias problems exists I predict the conclusion would be the same -
    yes the proposition is correct.
    Try, sociability -> entertainment industry-> much moral posturing.

    A better policy- go for Occum's Razor, the simplest explanation,
    better still- form no conclusion without evidence.

    Another thought, most of the public moral outragers are young adults and teens.
    So is that the age cohort more likely to have guilt over their past than older people?
    Instead I postulate, that that is the age when attention seeking with peers is most prevalent.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If you noticed, all those actions and examples are the behaviors of children.

    Maybe they need a good spanking but I am afraid that they'd probably enjoy it...so it would only reinforce that behavior.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There is a big difference between those that can admit wrong doing, pay the price and be better for it and those that don't even realize their own wrong doing..
    Thanks for the links.

    As far as hiltery or any of these creatures is that number 1...she was on our payroll and we have every right to bitch. Number 2, she truly is an unconscious idiot that clearly has no mutuality with us, never mind existence itself.
    She and her ilk are some kind of universal retards...I'd sooner trust a snake...
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