Why Progressives must force participation: Unions in decline

Posted by $ blarman 8 years, 4 months ago to News
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This is why Progressives love to use the Government: they want to force people into doing things they wouldn't otherwise voluntarily select. I don't have a problem with people wanting to form unions (though union tactics are another story entirely), but I do have a problem with people being forced to join unions as a condition of work. But I don't think ANYONE who works for government (receiving taxpayer funding) should be able to unionize at all. All that does is encourage lawmakers to get in bed with government employees unions to grow government at the expense of everyone else - which is precisely what we've seen in the past 30 years especially.


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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 8 years, 4 months ago
    Very happy to see teachers recognize that union membership is not the way to improve their lot in life or the education offered. I'd love to see demographics on the salaries, quality and age of the people leaving he unions. I bet this will show the unions are filled with underperforming bums.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 8 years, 4 months ago
    FDR warned against government unions as a "plague on the taxpayer." Too bad JFK got suckered into authorizing unionization of public employees.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    What's really surprising about the opensecrets site is that it's funded by a Soros backed group, yet I find the information to be factual instead of biased in favor of progressives.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 4 months ago
    I can't afford all these employees, production is non existent...time for pink slips!
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Which gets back to the original point: that unions are nothing more than political entities which exist at the expense of their union members to support Democrats and Democratic proposals irrespective of the political opinions of their members.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "When 9 out of 10 advertisements they see are slanted one way (because of union-sponsored ads),"
    That's my point. I wish they had provided figures showing union spending accounts for 90% of political advertising. If that fact were true, the whole thing would make sense.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It's not directly causal, but indirectly. A large part of the electorate depends upon getting information regarding particular initiatives. When 9 out of 10 advertisements they see are slanted one way (because of union-sponsored ads), it's very easy to influence the voting public in one direction. And this is particularly true with teachers' unions - who take a very personal role in agitating for more funding for public education. In my State, public education is 50% of the entire State budget.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "I do have a problem with people's ability to be employed being subject to non-elective paid participation!"
    And it's even worse if they're using gov't money (mandatory union dues at a gov't job) for the purpose of lobbying for more gov't money. So the gov't is spending money to hire someone to convince it to spend more money.

    But that's not the issue I was I talking about. I was asking how mandatory union dues cause people to vote Democrat. I could see them being correlated but not causal correlated.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You don't know how unions operate, do you. They are political entities - pure and simple. Union dues get used for two purposes: to re-elect Democrats and push Democrat policies and to provide a lavish lifestyle for union bosses. It's proven that unions spend more than 10-1 in favor of Democrats, even though their union members are more likely to be a 50-50 split. I don't have a problem with people banding together to express a political viewpoint, but I do have a problem with people's ability to be employed being subject to non-elective paid participation!

    The even bigger problem is in unions of governmental workers. I look back at the strike of Air Traffic Controllers under Reagan. Government workers have zero right to refuse to work because they want better pay.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 8 years, 4 months ago
    I mostly agree with the OP's comments, but I do not understand the article. Why would everyone at a workplace being in a union vs only some of them being in it affect how people vote? The union can't look over people's shoulders in the voting booth. Maybe they're saying the unions had more money before right-to-work, and they spent that money convincing the general population to vote for their candidates. If that's the case, the author should give us numbers showing that money spending was significant.

    My issue is with the causal vectors. I think other factors caused right-to-work and people to vote Republican. I don't think right-to-work caused people to vote Republican.
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