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Donald Trump refers to fictional Swedish incident as he blasts 'fake news'

Posted by $ nickursis 9 years ago to Government
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Another good example of how Trump says what he means, but is so vague as to leave it wide open to media distortion. No doubt he is speaking to the fact Swededn opened it's doors to about 160,000 "refugees" and only 500 of them have been able to find work (since most probably do not speak swedish, not surprising) but there is a huge swell of media reports that Sweden is "politically covering up" the fact their rates of rape and violent crime have gone through the roof.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/01/...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/world...

http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/09/ho...

So he is not making it up, it is real, but because he does not lower himself to being so nats ass specific even a moronic media person can interpret it, it gets skewed and manipulated. This is the core of Fake news, take a fact, and twist it...


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  • Posted by Stormi 9 years ago
    Trump tends to think like a business man, where everyone is on the same page. He expects his audience to be more intelligent than they are, esp. the mainstream, who never check out anything. There as an incident involving existing immigrants in Sweden the night before, but not an all out Islamic terrorist attack, but still a bad scene. They are suffering the results of letting people of vastly different ideas and values into their country. Trump should have made it clearer, or better, let one of his hired guns comment on it.
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  • Posted by term2 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    We should encourage immigration of people who want to fit into OUR culture and values, and who will enrich our country through their knowledge, intelligence, and work. THAT should be the standard for allowing people in.

    I watched "border security" on netflix for Australia and Canada. They are a lot smarter on who comes into their countries than we are, and we are smarter than the stupid europeans who let anyone in.
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  • Posted by term2 9 years ago
    The leftists would complain about EVERYTHING Trump does. If he opened the door with his right hand, they would complain he is not respecting left handed people.

    I just dont listen to it , and he shouldnt either. Just go and do what we hired him for- to be president and run the country as best he can.
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  • Posted by NealS 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    I, agree, and think he's actually a lot smarter than most of us give him credit for. Suck the media in, at least that way they may report some facts. Sweden's reluctance may be based on the Omamafication of their leaders, just ignore the real problems and maybe they will go away.

    What's so dangerous here is that only half our population is aware of the problems, one quarter are only in blind denial, and another quarter are just plain ignorant. (disclosure; my figures may be slightly off)
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  • Posted by $ CBJ 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    For the most part, Trump is doing just fine. I think he enjoys baiting the media into attacking him, then counterattacking and moving on to the next topic while they're playing catch-up on the previous one.
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  • Posted by scojohnson 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    I only watch Varney on Fox Business News for my news, everything else is kind of a waste of time with their biases.
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  • Posted by $ 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    You would think. So, based on all the hue and cry ther media uses for each "ah ha" moment, they would be flying this all over the place? No? Can't find it? Hmmmm..
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  • Posted by $ 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Well, Carl, I think you just hit the nail on the head. The Asian influx after Vietnam, had similar issues, by the Vietnamese eventually found a happy medium with fitting in and retaining their culture (although the Hmong had some issues up in Minnesota or Michigan a couple years ago). The Mid East culture seems to just be "My Wayr or My Way" and the brilliant people in the world (U.S., Europe, etc) just could not grasp that. I would have thought that 80 years of rinse and repeat in Israel and Palestine would have given them a clue, with Iraq and Iran as confirmation, but then I lack the high level phd required to be a "decision maker" in this world....
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  • Posted by $ 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Doc, what incident? At least everything flying around says the swedes are adamant they have had no incidents in months..(well except the rape on live stream, but apparently that doesn't count as "terrorist").
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  • Posted by $ 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    It seems that that may be what is happening, although the media as a whole still seems locked on how well they have defined the idiot. It is just a question of which idiot...
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    This is what happens when you don't watch what you say when surrounded by rabid fault-seekers who hate your guts.
    When it comes to Trump, the media makes me dino think of a circling pack of drooling jackals, all waiting for any opening to attack their prey target.
    Should one jackal sense an opening, the whole pack mindlessly follows the attack with bared teeth.
    Then loudly yowled accusations of a lie spew forth from all the usual lib media foul gas outlets.
    Perhaps, Trump should spend time with a speech coach specialized in the fine art of CYA.
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  • Posted by tohar1 9 years ago
    I truly wish we had a press which cared more about reporting than they do about creating a story. You know as well as I do that anything President Trump says will be picked apart and distorted to fit the narrative that they espouse, ie. Trump stole the election / He's illegitimate / #NotMyPresident / etc.
    If they'd worry more about what's going on in this world AND REPORT IT, the American populace (& other peoples of this world) would be so much better off. People, there is EVIL in our time...
    There is a lot of crap going on in that really needs to have a light shined upon it...specifically radical animals who have no respect/regard for human life even if it is a "cultural anomaly" like some people want to excuse the behavior as. One can only hope we don't have to have another 09-11-01 or similar happen before some of these people wake up. "Oh...we have a problem? How did that happen?"
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  • Posted by scojohnson 9 years ago
    It's awesome that this morning another sanctuary city grabbed the third rail. An illegal immigrant was arrested for theft/burglary in Denver - ICE ordered the sheriff to detain him until they arrived to take him into federal custody. (Keep in mind the sheriff there takes Homeland Security money to enforce terrorism laws, etc.). They let the guy go (of course under Catch & Release), and ICE shows up looking for their inmate but instead get "we weren't 'required' to hold onto him". Less than a week later the guy is re-arrested for murder.

    Trump speaks a little bit in metaphors, but he is also speaking with a non-filtered factual incident at the base all the time. In the case of the "sanctuary city" nonsense, 80% of the voters polled agree with him. Don't enforce the law, you don't get any federal money.

    I'm looking for the Denver mayor to own up to this one. They were simply asked to hang onto the guy for a few hours. The victim's family should certainly sue.
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  • Posted by scojohnson 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Yeah - that was happening last summer. I saw some articles in Breitbart and other rather questionable news outlets, but the sources were actually from advertisements in Swedish media. It wasn't a 'confiscation' as I understand it, or at least not last summer when I read about it, but rather they were guilt-tripping the wealthy into donating the country house for a poor immigrant (or dozens of them) to bunk-up in over the winter.

    It was really about throwing a guilt trip about renting out the multi-million dollar vacation home for the refugee housing allowance limits, basically. And no doubt showing up later to see the laundry on a rope through the kitchen, smoke stains, carpets wrecked, holes in walls, etc.

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/...
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 9 years ago
    Trump made the mistake of referring to "last night," which was the day he saw Tucker Carlson's Fox News show about Sweden's immigrant/refugee problems, not when any incident had actually occurred. It's ironic that the next day an incident exactly as he described it happened in Sweden. I suppose the Swedes will blame him for their problems now.
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  • Posted by wmiranda 9 years ago
    I like the way he wags the dog and they go off wildly, then, he's right... again. The media has to learn to wait, check, then talk. They haven't learn that yet, perhaps because they want to scoop each other and end up looking as fools.
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  • Posted by $ CBJ 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Love it!
    (1) Trump makes a sweeping statement that implies (not actually states) something that isn't true.
    (2) The media jumps all over him for making the statement.
    (3) Trump explains what he "really" means.
    (4) The media is now forced to cover the issue Trump brought up (and that they would rather ignore or bury), and possibly backtrack on some of its earlier accusations against him.
    (5) Trump wins and moves on to the next topic.
    (6) Rinse and repeat.
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  • Posted by $ CBJ 9 years ago
    This could be an example of another Trump strategy: Bring up a story that the media would prefer to ignore or suppress, thereby forcing them to cover and discuss it.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    The problem is, they don't WANT to be Swedish, no more than they WANT to be American. They may want to just bring their Culture, their laws with them; ignoring the rights of others.
    Trumpet, and whom ever first thought of it, are right in finding a safe place in the region because they do not want to change their lives for the better, grow up, learn, become conscious value creators and respect the property of others...those that do, are more than welcome but when their mysticism teaches them to do harm to others...how the Hell can you tell?
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  • Posted by $ 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Indeed, it supports the story that the Swedish government does not want any negative stories to be heard, as it would question their decision to accept 160K people with a serious disagreement with their lifestyle and overall religious outlook...
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  • Posted by $ 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    That is true, I am not sure, but one of the links I posted had a picture of it. Think of a rounded yurt, with wooden walkways. The Swedes are very pragmatic people, to them, a warm, waterproof dwelling is ok, even if not an architectural wonder...
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  • Posted by $ 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Ok, I think we are missing on what "most" is. I am sure "most" voters will vote for a candidate based on the one specific issue they deem "the one". Not a good way to go, but useful to the politicians, they can separate and make up their stories for each group...
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    "but I believe there are a lot who really did agree with his basic positions on things"
    Yes. I agree. I said "most Trump voters had specific issues, like opposition to handouts, support for gun rights, or concern about health insurance premiums." (emphasis added) So I would go further than what you said and say not just "some" but most Trump voters had specific political issues that they thought Trump was more aligned on or that Clinton was less aligned on.
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