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Pope: ‘Muslim Terrorism Does Not Exist’

Posted by $ nickursis 7 years, 2 months ago to Culture
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I know religion is a hot topic with some, but after reading this I had to come to the conclusion AR is in a better position as an atheist, than the Pope is as a religious leader. To be so naive as to say there is no terrorists, that basically it is just a bunch of poor people oppressed by the rich, that it is all some kind of evil plot, is denial on a pathological scale. I guess it just goes hand in hand with all the killing, raping,and slavery that ISIS imposed on the Yazahdi and Christians. I guess he would tell them to "buck up little campers, god will provide". Well, god didn't...
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    Posted by freedomforall 7 years, 2 months ago
    The "leaders" of the catholic church have failed their followers for generations. The writer of that quote is a socialist fool.
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    • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago
      Oh, in his elite mind he is above any form of terrorism, he listed several. There is a link to the whole document on the page, but the rest was a lot of religious lecture. As i said, I am sure the Yazahdi people will have a bone to pick with his holiness....
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        Posted by Peggy 7 years, 2 months ago
        and if he truly said this, which I doubt, there will be a LOT of Catholics who do more than have a bone to pick.
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        • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago
          I do not why someone would want to downcheck a discussion, you have valid points, and he did indeed say this. Go to the link in the article, and you will find the written vatican document with the transcript. His terrorism statement is the last big paragraph.
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    • Posted by Peggy 7 years, 2 months ago
      And you think the "leaders" of the Methodists, Baptists, etc, who are doing WORSE than the pope is doing are not failing their followers? that is a special kind of ignorance
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      • Posted by freedomforall 7 years, 2 months ago

        1. Don't make assumptions about what others think with no evidence whatsoever to support your assumptions.
        2. If you have any evidence of what you state about Methodists', Baptists' leaders, please post it. I have not heard the leader of either of those religions declaring that muslim terrorists do not exist.
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        • Posted by Peggy 7 years, 2 months ago
          what kind of gobbledee gook are you pushing out here? I made no assumptions but you all certainly did. you believed the media in stead of the pope. I do not have to post a thing. I am not your nanny. LOOK IT UP. There is PLENTY of proof.
          Just as a hint, it was not this year all these traitors deserted their flocks.
          .
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          • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago
            Peggy, please do not get excited, Freedoms point is that any discussion should be based on facts and data. As I said above, I posted the link to the document. The pope has decided the church will stand against the evil Trump and their daring to disrupt the road to socialism and "equality" that they misguidedly believe will solve all ills. Here is Part 2 of the plot:

            http://www.newsmax.com/DealHudson/san...

            Since you seem to want to believe the church, here is their own words:

            http://www.cacatholic.org/first-us-co...

            So, a foreign country is now fomenting revolution in another, what a christian way to treat people. So reflective of the Progressive nature of the church. I would say they would have been better off sending a few hundred thousand christian catholics to Syria and protecting their own Yazadhi christians from the evil muslim "non terrorists" who raped them and sold them into slavery, and then killed all their men. But then, I am a realistic kind of guy, not given to fantasy's of philosophic imperialism...
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 7 years, 2 months ago
    Today we are taught that a Muslim terrorist who yells "Allah akbar" before he/she/it murders innocents and their children is not a Muslim terrorist. Right.
    This pope reminds me of a college professor educated beyond his/her/its intelligence and I recall some of those.
    To teach and to learn are two different concepts.
    People have tried to teach old dino all kinds of garbage over the years.
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    • Posted by $ Suzanne43 7 years, 2 months ago
      You got that right, Dino, Esq. I sat in some classes where a lot of garbage was taught. I never believed any of it, and I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Which makes me wonder what is wrong with students today....can't they make up their own minds. They are so easily led. If this rather intellectually challenged Pope wants to meet with ISIS, he'd do well to remember three things...these terrorists want to either convert, enslave, or kill. The Pope might be returning to Rome without his head.
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      • Posted by $ allosaur 7 years, 2 months ago
        You made a finishing statement that gives me an opening to ask, "What head?" (Sorry, it hurt dino too much NOT to write that).
        If the Pope wants to meet with ISIS, he had better bring a larger army or else a prayer rug and know how to say stuff like 'Allah akbar" while bowing toward whichever way Mecca happens to be located over there in the Middle East.
        Otherwise, he will surely lose whatever kinda gourd sets on his neck.
        (At first I wrote melon but it occurred to me that a melon has something inside of it).
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        Posted by Peggy 7 years, 2 months ago
        YES, we can tell. You are not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
        what you people should do is prod the pope to meet with isis. let him try to make peace. right up until they kill him.
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        • Posted by roneida 7 years, 2 months ago
          Isn't this liar head honcho of the group that has allowed his understudies to rape and abuse little boys with no consequences or punishment or jail time for centuries. I'm afraid he has no business commenting on real world subjects. Stick to your superstitions and leave the real world to adults.
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        • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago
          Indeed, I have suggested that several times. They could make a pay per view of his arrival, then seizure, then live execution by his "not terrorist" friends. Give the money to a fund for all the little boys and girls their priests have abused and they have covered up. The church is a corrupt as our own political system is (including the stares and federal governments), thay have just had a thousand years to practice and get the art of deception right...Go look up the real history of the catholic church, it's politics and practices, (not to disregard our own countries little indiscretions but much more material to work with there). You will find for all their vaunted rules and regulations, they have regularly disregarded them for personal or political power...they are professional hypocrites, I am afraid.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 7 years, 2 months ago
    What I find discomfiting is that Louis Farrakhan's Nation of Islam is treated in the press as an acceptable expression of faith (even after Farrakhan's call for 10,000 black "soldiers" to kill whites), while the Christian Militant sect, which adheres to strict orthodox Catholicism and rejects the "new and improved" church is called dangerous and threatening. Progressives fanatically protect Islam, which is anti-feminist, anti-gay, and murderously xenophobic toward other faiths, while viciously attacking Christianity as racist (?) and bigoted. This seems like an at least suicidal belief system our modern society has adopted.
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    • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 2 months ago
      Great points that I have also found discombobulating . The contradiction is so obvious. Of course there are no contradictions.
      The late Wm. Casey CIA stated "We will know our job is complete when everything the American people think is wrong"
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  • Posted by $ Suzanne43 7 years, 2 months ago
    This Pope is way over the top. At best he is naive and is under the mistaken belief that liberalism equates compassion. At worst he is a communist who seeks to harm western civilization. I believe he is the latter..
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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 7 years, 2 months ago
    obviously he's had far too much communion wine.
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    • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago
      :)! Thanks, that didn't occur to me, but I used to be an altar boy, and that picture was just too much!
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      • Posted by $ allosaur 7 years, 2 months ago
        Me dino was told to be an altar boy and never wanted to be one.
        Anyway, I recall two different priests. One would have me pour in a little wine and mix it with a lot of water.
        Then he'd make a terrible face when drinking it.
        The other would have me pour in a lot of wine and mix it with just a little bitty amount of water.
        He loved that stuff. Glug! Glug! Glug!
        Last I heard he retired to a mental health facility.
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  • Posted by Lucky 7 years, 2 months ago
    Pope Frank the Red is wrong about that as well as “the ecological crisis is real” -
    more boring marxist green claptrap in support of Islamism.
    The link- they all worship failure and despise human freedom and human life.

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/7...
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    • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago
      The fact he is now trying to tailor all his material to be so "gender, sex, religion" neutral is something to look at, in that he is constantly drifting from head of the catholics to some kind of spiritual umpire..in addition to his BS about everything from religion, terrorism to climate.
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    • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 2 months ago
      The altruism collectivism is what it is all about. The eve of destruction https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfZVu...
      is now in Europe from the flood of ISIS or refugees or what , who knows with out vetting and even then they will lie and cheat to kill.

      From the express uk site you attached
      Next Pope warns EU to BLOCK migrants as Christians being PUSHED OUT by 'Islamised' Europe
      THE Archbishop tipped to be the next Pope has warned that Christians face being pushed aside by a growing Islamisation of Europe and wants to put a stop to accepting new refugees.
      PUBLISHED: 03:38, Wed, Dec 28, 2016 | UPDATED: 08:23, Wed, Dec 28, 2016
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    • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago
      And yet they still have yet to admit to a whole bunch of boy diddling from the 60's and the 70's, they keep waiting for all their old criminals to die, and then will have an epiphany of truth...
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      • Posted by strugatsky 7 years, 2 months ago
        '60's and '70's? The porn has been part of the Vatican "culture" for at least one thousand years. Plenty of documentation of orgies, child rape, and all kinds of fun; it is in no way limited to any short period, nor is it about to end.
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        • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago
          No argument there, I have been digging into their history for 50 years now, it is about as ugly as our own, yet they are better at "forgetting" and then proceeding to lecture everyone else on what "they should do". Seems like they and Hillary and the Progressives are all on the same page?
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          • Posted by strugatsky 7 years, 2 months ago
            Well, the Catholic Church has been a shunning example of socialism since at least 400 AD, convincing idiots everywhere that they need to labor in this life in order to enjoy the next one. The priesthood, being obviously progressive, is already in the next life, so they are entitled to the labors of the working classes. Barbara Tuchman's The Tumultuous 14th Century is a must read.
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            • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago
              Exactly, and they have an arrogant idea they can tell the rest of the world how to live, when their own history is one of looting and pillaging "in the name of god".
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  • Posted by NealS 7 years, 2 months ago
    How do you "confront terror with love"? "Thank you for knocking those buildings down, they were getting old and we were going to rebuild them anyway."??? And "thank you for killing a couple thousand innocent people in the act, it will help us reduce traffic in New York."???

    How should we confront those that tell us openly that they will take our life or destroy our country? I'd do it like the Army taught me before sending me to Vietnam. Terrorists, even threatening terrorists need to either be joined or removed. The choice is ours. We've probably already got laws protecting us from what they are doing and trying to do here, we just need to start enforcing them. President Trump today seems to be the only leader around the world that wants to actually do something about it, with the exception, of course, the other side. We need to take a stand and support him or accept the alternatives that his opposition doesn't seem to understand. The Pope is only a man with an opinion, he could be wrong. Maybe the Pope should go on FOX and try to explain his comments to the people, like Obama always did.
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 2 months ago
    My mother was catholic, and the obviously stupidity of that religion made it easy for me to abandon it early in life. Good riddance, I say. Too bad so many people today still accept it and its leader, the pope.
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  • Posted by wiggys 7 years, 2 months ago
    the pope thinks if he says what he says the muslims will think differently about the Christians. he is a deluded individual in many ways.
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  • Posted by JamesWright 7 years, 2 months ago
    What foolishness! Just read the Koran and observe what the Muslims have done over the last 1500 years. No terrorism? He's living in dreamland.
    Jim Wright
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  • Posted by scojohnson 7 years, 2 months ago
    I think I get the gist of the message, it's people, not the religion - we have had Christian terrorists too, such as the IRA, but I don't see any Jews or Christians contributing to world terrorism - that's a uniquely Muslim thing, and so is their state funding sources.

    As Francis always seems to think, they kill because they are poor, rather than they are only poor because of their oppressive dictatorial governments. It's his hidden message of "blame America" without being able to criticize the source of about 70% of worldwide catholic contributions.
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    • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 2 months ago
      I'm not so sure the Irish Republican Army was a Christian group as much as it was a group of Christians.
      The historical record of Christian brutality in the name of religion is well know from hundreds of years ago.
      Today we see the Islamic terrorist trained to hate by the madras's ,the clerics and govt.s.
      It is socially accepted and celebrated in their countries and communities. They kill because they hate and their goal of wiping out the west.
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      • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago
        Yes the historical record is pretty clear on all religion, the Crusades come to mind. What most people do not seem to know is the idea of "Jihad" and killing comes from the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem in the 40's when he went to the Nazis and they gave him radio time, some weapons and lots of support, to cause Arab revolt in the British areas including Jerusalem, so he could kick them out. He created the Arab terrorists and led directly the Al Fatah and all the other groups today. Egypts Nassar had Hitlers former head os special forces and his own bodyguard and then trainer of Arab killing groups, who taught them all the bomb making and tactics they use today.
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        • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 2 months ago
          Thanks for the historical context Re: the Grand Mufti. Evil certainly lives on today.
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          • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago
            There are several web pages dedicated to the subject, that give the historical context, I also watched a documentary on it on AHC channel, that went into great detail of how and why it happened. They were actually trying to get an Arab uprising started and install him as their Nazi puppet. Had it worked, WW2 may have had a different outcome, but we are seeing the vibrations of it even today.
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  • Posted by mia767ca 7 years, 2 months ago
    this from the man who is head of the largest pedophile organization in the world...from the organization that has caused more pain and suffering thru-out history than any other...excepting islam...
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 7 years, 2 months ago
    That's why I'm not a practicing Roman Catholic any more. I disagree with the Pope's public pronouncements on foreign affairs.
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    • Posted by $ 7 years, 1 month ago
      I had to give up on the structured religions, as all have an agenda and a dark history in one way or another, so a lack of credibility. About the only one I think has been consistent are Buddhists and I don't know their history well. The Native American spiritual framework is somewhat honest and real, maybe because they actually had to live with it.
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  • Posted by rbroberg 7 years, 2 months ago
    Consider the psychological malfunction of positing "Muslim Terrorism Does Not Exist". The single point in uttering it is to delineate between radical terror cells and Islam otherwise. Islam otherwise being...? Council on American-Islamic Relations? No, the Council is named as if Islamic and American relate as two states would, while it appears to claim representation for American Muslims. If American Muslims are Americans (affirmative), then with whom does this group relate? Itself? (The Council views itself as separate and distinct from mainstream America by default.) Further, the Council has been said to support Hamas. Does this constitute Muslim otherwise? A mosque, a Muslim business owner, a Muslim classmate might be examples of Muslim otherwise. But if CAIR is a powerful and influential organization with alleged ties to state-sponsored terror, I suppose we are living in the fog of irrational rationalization... at least, I would posit, according to the pope.
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    • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago
      I think you may have a point in considering Muslim as a culture, that has a common religion. So, just as other cultures have a violent sect, so do they. It still does not mean there are no terrorists in it, which is patently false.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 2 months ago
    In response to the question why don't you say Islamic terrorism ?
    The pope said "I don't like to speak of Islamic violence, because every day, when I browse the newspapers, I see violence, here in Italy. this one who has murdered his girlfriend, another who has murdered the mother-in-law. and these are baptized Catholics! There are violent Catholics! If I speak of Islamic violence, I must speak of Catholic violence . . . and no, not all Muslims are violent, not all Catholics are violent. It is like a fruit salad; there's everything. There are violent persons of this religion. this is true: I believe that in pretty much every religion there is always a small group of fundamentalists. Fundamentalists. We have them. When fundamentalism comes to kill, it can kill with the language -- the Apostle James says this, not me -- and even with a knife, no? I do not believe it is right to identify Islam with violence. This is not right or true. I had a long conversation with the imam, the Grand Imam of the Al-Azhar University, and I know how they think . . . They seek peace, encounter . . . The nuncio to an African country told me that the capital where he is there is a trail of people, always full, at the Jubilee Holy Door. And some approach the confessionals -- Catholics -- others to the benches to pray, but the majority go forward, to pray at the altar of Our Lady... these are Muslims, who want to make the Jubilee. They are brothers, they live. When I was in Central Africa, I went to them, and even the imam came up on the Popemobile. We can coexist well. But there are fundamentalist groups, and even I ask. there is a question. How many young people, how many young people of our Europe, whom we have left empty of ideals, who do not have work. they take drugs, alcohol, or go there to enlist in fundamentalist groups. One can say that the so-called ISIS, but it is an Islamic State which presents itself as violent . . . because when they show us their identity cards, they show us how on the Libyan coast how they slit the Egyptians' throats or other things. But this is a fundamentalist group which is called ISIS. but you cannot say, I do not believe, that it is true or right that Islam is terrorist.

    Izoarde: Your concrete initiatives to counteract terrorism, violence?

    Pope Francis: Terrorism is everywhere. You think of the tribal terrorism of some African countries. It is terrorism and also . . . But I don't know if I say it because it is a little dangerous. Terrorism grows when there are no other options, and when the center of the global economy is the god of money and not the person -- men and women -- this is already the first terrorism! You have cast out the wonder of creation -- man and woman -- and you have put money in its place. This is a basic terrorism against all of humanity! Think about it!"
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    • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago
      Again, more manipulation, one bad thing justifys the other. They have gone to Might is Right, while spouting Love and compassion. They never mention 20 men on a beach being slowly beheaded by 20 idiots with dull knives. If it had been 20 priests...
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  • Posted by chad 7 years, 2 months ago
    Classic socialist response, nothing is the fault of any individual making a choice to do something evil, it is the fault of all those evil people around them that are productive and not slaves of the idle. The pope is an example of the Peter Principle, he has been promoted to his maximum inefficiency.
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  • Posted by strugatsky 7 years, 2 months ago
    I would say that the Pope is at the very least culpable in the abhorrent behavior of those violent individuals, if not an outright enabler - if the violence stems from the lack of love and financial benefits, surely the Pope has plenty of both that he's no sharing. Shame on him!
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