Ann Coulter's response to invasion of illegal immigrants

Posted by Non_mooching_artist 10 years, 11 months ago to Video
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Don't mince words, Ann! That's just they way I like it.


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  • Posted by khalling 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I never like the "population to support argument. It is first and foremost welfare state. If that did not exist, they would not come. I will be right out there and say it. Here the black community screaming? they want their "rightfuls". Food fight
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Huh? Where did you learn your history? The Berlin Wall didn't go up until Aug 1961, in part as a challenge to the new President and in part as a retaliation for the Bay of Pigs fiasco. This was a full 16 years after the end of the war in Europe.

    As for the 100 million more than the economy can support, how do you figure? We're certainly not 100 million more than we were in 2004, and we were certainly prosperous then.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You could tell the same thing to the Normans and the Saxons. Or the Gauls and the Goths. Or the Greeks and the Spartans. Or the Bosnians and the Serbs. Or the Chinese and the Japanese. Or the Indians and Pakistanis. Or dozens of other related ethnicities throughout the history of the world. If you go back far enough we're ALL related eventually.

    I think the relevant part is who the parties identify with TODAY - family, religion, etc. The political subdivides are not inconsequential to these matters.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "couldn't control"? What makes you think we couldn't control that land?

    There was no reason to recreate Israel anywhere but in Israel; suggesting it be recreated in Guam or Puerto Rico is just silliness.
    As has been pointed out, Israelis are historically Arabic; therefore they belong in the middle east.

    Of course, all this turmoil since WWII could have been avoided if we'd just helped the Nazis wipe out every Jew on the planet.

    By the same argument you're proposing, the world would have been better had the U.S. not occupied the unused land in the North American continent to build a western civilization. Better we continue to huddle on the east coast, or go and form societies in Cambodia or the Congo.

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  • Posted by Hiraghm 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Oh, I at first thought you were talking about "Vespasian's Monkey"... General Silva, who besieged Masada.

    "I wonder if Christ had been born in, say, the province of Britannia rather than the province of Judea, and a similar uproar came about, whether Aulus Platius (the Roman Prelate in Britain at about the same time) would have been written about as much as Pontius Pilatus. "

    How could He have been? There were not an overabundance of Jews in Britannia during the Roman colonial occupation of that island. There was no Judaic culture in Britannia, if by some miracle Christ had been born there.

    There may have been many individuals in Britannia during the Roman colonial occupation who preached pacifism, compassion, industry and honesty. But they didn't have the Judaic culture to make anything of it.

    "what if Pilate had said, "I declare today is a "gift of the Emperor" and there will be no punishment meted out, further, I shall declare that ALL those condemned in holding are hereby pardoned and freed"... "

    Not as much. There would have been chaos in Judea, and lots of Roman legionnaires would have died putting out brushfires. It would be the equivalent of Obama's declaration of amnesty for illegal aliens. There's a reason Pilate washed his hands. He saw the political winds, and followed Roman policy of letting the locals rule themselves as much as possible. In feeding Christ to the powers that be in Judea, he helped keep the lid on the tinderbox, as you put it (forgive the mixed-metaphor).

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  • Posted by freedomforall 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The Berlin Wall was an artificial political wall between two areas of the same country by a conqueror almost immediately after taking control.
    Any "wall" along the southern border of the US with Mexico is a defense against unchecked illegal immigration. Compare the US now and the US before the 100 million that have already illegally crossed that border. I see a significant decline and I think there is a positive correlation. (I recognize there are other causes, too.)
    Legal immigration can be a great benefit because the numbers are controlled and immigrants must show they can contribute and often modify their behavior to comply with the customs of the country.
    The US population is 100 million higher than the economy can prosperously support, and the difference is uncontrolled illegal immigration.
    (Agree with your comments on free markets, drug wars, prisons, and free trade.)
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    In the following movie clip, which one is an Arab; the guy who got shot, or the guy who shot him?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud1zpHW3...

    Modern Israelis are *culturally* Western European, at least in part. Because the modern Israel was largely populated by refugees from Europe. Whose ancestors got to Europe during the many Diasporas the Jews experienced over the millennia.
    While the Arabs who remained in the middle east are primarily middle eastern, culturally.

    So don't play anti-semitic games with me. I long ago learned who, historically, the good guys were and who the bad guys were. The Roman Legionnaire, the British Tommy, the American G.I. Joe, the IDF soldier... all pushing the envelope of civilization. All fighting against barbarians to defend islands of civilization.

    "Hitler used tanks to conquer France; we used tanks to liberate it. NOT the same thing" - George Will in response to Phil Donahue trying to inply a Nietzschean equivalence between us and the Iraqis during the Gulf War
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    As I pointed out, the Israelis are not practicing racial apartheid.

    Somebody forget that the Israelites *are* an Arabic tribe?
    This is the same logic that calls Canadians and Mexicans "American". Technically correct, but in practical terms, a rhetorical split hair.
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  • Posted by Snoogoo 10 years, 11 months ago
    How many of you guys read "We the Living" and remember the ending?
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  • Posted by Snoogoo 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Wow, if someone had the ability using their own mind and body to get through all of that without dying would they get to stay? I would be pretty impressed by that.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Also from Wikipedia (which is sometimes reliable, sometimes not;^) :
    In August 1941, the British and Soviet troops invaded Iran (Operation Countenance) and, in September 1941, forced Reza Shah Pahlavi to abdicate his throne. He was replaced by his son Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi, who was willing to fight the Axis powers. Within months Iran entered the war on the side of the Allies and became known as "The Bridge of Victory".

    Iran's geographical position was also important to the Allies. It provided a 'blue water' supply route to the Soviet Union via the port of Bandar Abbas and a specially constructed railway route. The supply routes were known collectively as the Persian Corridor. Soviet political operatives known as "agitprops" infiltrated Iran and helped establish the Comintern affiliate Tudeh Party in early in 1942.

    By January 1942, the United Kingdom and the Soviet Union agreed they would end their occupation six months after the war's end.
    --------------------end wiki quote--------------
    "Conquered nation" may depend on which historian is writing the history. My guess is the Iran people just wanted to be left alone and the rulers (father and son) disagreed on which side offered the biggest potential for profit and power in the future. Was the father a Axis puppet and the son an Allies puppet?
    Maybe we both learned a little more history here.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The Berlin Wall was built through a city. It wasn't between two sovereign nations. Those people flooding our border are coming here because they wrongly assume the American people will welcome them with open arms. A giant fallacy perpetrated by a power-drunk "leader". They SHOULD have been stopped by Mexico at its southern border, but clearly that didn't happen. The American people are now left holding the bag. This wasn't an arbitrary fence that has been put up. It's along an existing border. I have no issue with it.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Very well said. My family had to. It was the only way to succeed here. But they knew that, and didn't expect favors or handouts or any other thing they didn't earn themselves. Not that difficult of a concept to understand.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Particularly when they have no desire to assimilate, but merely to institute their own society here. As you say, that will cause what they sought to be lost.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The Berlin Wall wasn't built to keep anyone out, but to keep the easterners in. Totally different concept.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Making untrue statements is not criticism, it is calumny. Calling Israel an apartheid state is an outright lie. Apartheid was coined about conditions in South Africa where blacks were not allowed any say in their fate, let alone being able to participate in government. I assume you are talking about Muslims in Israel, who are allowed equal citizenship, own property and even sit in the Knesset which is their congress. That's some apartheid.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    From Wikipedia, but generally in line with the history that I was taught about WW2: From 1939 to 1941 Iran's top foreign trade partner (nearly 50% of its total trade) was Germany, which helped Iran open modern sea and air communications with the rest of the world.[12]

    In 1941, the Allies forced Reza Shah to abdicate the throne to his son, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi. His pro-Nazi followers in the Iranian government such as Fazlollah Zahedi [13] and Mohammad Hosein Airom shared similar fates. The British believed that Zahedi was planning a general uprising in cooperation with German forces. He was arrested, where he was found with German weapons and correspondence from a German agent. He was interned in Palestine.

    Not really an ally, but a "conquered" nation. And from what I remember, there were quite a few Iranians during the war that provided covert support for the Nazi's.
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 10 years, 11 months ago
    We cannot assimilate all that want to come without losing that which is the allure to begin with.
    The people of the world must stand up and create tolerable conditions in their own nations.

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  • Posted by wmiranda 10 years, 11 months ago
    Puzzlelady's argument is well written but... puzzling. Galt's Gulch would cease to exist if it faced what the southwest is currently facing. In AS, the so called "selfish" ones outlasted the looting government and moochers by hiding the Galt's Gulch from the government and looters, thus saving the world. It would be a great mistake to think the United States couldn't cease to exist. I vividly remember one morning when I turned on the TV news to find out that the Soviet Union simply ceased to exist.
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  • Posted by Maphesdus 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That depends on which Arabs you're referring to. Some middle-eastern countries sided with the Allies, and others sided with the Axis. So there were Arabs on both sides of the conflict.
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    Posted by Maphesdus 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The diseases are not a threat. We have hospitals to deal with that. It's not a problem. As for gangs, they wouldn't be a problem if drugs were legal.
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    Posted by Maphesdus 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    1) Yes they do. There's a documentary called "The Stones Cry Out" which discusses the issue in great detail. You can watch a trailer on the official website:

    http://www.thestonescryoutmovie.com/

    2) Fascism is right-wing. Any and all attempts to reclassify fascism as supposedly being left-wing are nothing more than historical revisionism and propaganda perpetrated by right-wing fundamentalists who don't want to accept the fact that their ideology leads to tyranny and despotism. It's no different than the right-wing's attempts to cast Adolf Hitler as an atheist, even though he was actually a Roman Catholic.

    3) Technically yes, I suppose you're right on this point. The violence did come first. After all, you can't build a wall around stolen territory unless you first clear the land of its original inhabitants, which is an act that requires violence.
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    Posted by Maphesdus 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I have absolutely nothing against Jews. My issue is with the actions of the government of Israel. All governments must be subject to criticism. A state does not become except from criticism simply because it happens to be run by members of the Judaic faith.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Agreed. Thought? Thought is absent from the discussion by closed minds.
    The portrayal in the film was pretty true to life (present day life, as that is what I can comment upon. I also can't accept the content of the bible as unadulterated truth as it was written by men and altered by later men and interpreted by more men -and finally women, too.)
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