What's Wrong With the Libertarian Party?
I caught a youtube video on "Gary Johnson Crazy" and laughed as I watched it. But, then I started wondering. What is wrong with that party? Either Johnson is nowhere near Libertarian or my own definition of Libertarian is way off. He just came off like a liberal who smokes a pound of weed each day. He said some of the craziest stuff, and some very liberal, almost statist things. Can some of us here illuminate this for me?...What went wrong with that party? I've always thought that Libertarian ideas could REALLY take hold in America. But, it seems like they purposely derail themselves with these wingnuts. I know some would say the same about Trump...but from what I understand the RNC didn't spend a dime on him. He stepped in as a rogue. While the Libertarians' last candidate was the legit poster child(?) I'm stumped by it.
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With that kind of floating abstractions about "rights" and "liberty" (the "freedom of assembly" for cells?) in his thinking he certainly does not represent what Ayn Rand advocated and explained, and you don't find rational defenses of individualism among his slogans.
Even in conservative North Dakota he couldn't get more than "ballot status". His a-philosophical feelings sometimes stumble into political positions better than outright statists, and those contradictions apparently make him the "real deal" for the Libertarian Party, but not for us. It is not the solution to correcting the course of the country.
Besides, the Probability Broach is out as a graphic novel now, so you can read a comic book and think about politics as the same time.
N.B. I thought long and hard before leaving that sentence from "so..." in, considering politics and graphic novels in the same room. Then I left it in, just to see what happened.
You're right - back when the LP had "core values" and people fought it out on the convention floor to decide just EXACTLY what the Party Platform would say, the membership was small but cohesive. Now that the candidates as whose who would never have supported that platform, there are probably more "members".
I don't think that party CAN be "big" and have a cohesive, logical and rational set of core values. Someone's always gonna say "But you can't..."
We had the best luck in getting people to agree with us when we began every discussion with "As we talk, we're going to disagree. Can we agree now that something not initiated by force or fraud, even if one of us doesn't like it, can still "make the cut" and be a LP value?" If you can get someone to go that far, you have a potential libertarian. But that takes time, and that is something most people won't spend on politics now. I have gotten more people to look deeper into libertarian ideas with that one question than any other.
For Ghu's sake, there were less than 10 NOTA votes for the presidential candidate at the last convention!
In the meantime, we are working WITH them.
In my almost squishy and certainly moderate approach, we have to reduce the government to its constitutional size before we can repeal it completely.
There are obligations that morally have to be met and, maybe more to the point, there are educational considerations: HOW do we convince people to get completely rid of government since that is such a new -- actually very old and radical (see Ayn Rand's definition of "radical") -- idea.
Minarchy as a goal is fine with me.
So come join. We'll love to have you.
https://www.facebook.com/FreeStateWes...
I'd love to help him campaign here.
Regarding true liberty - That is something I've come to realize the voters probably won't ever grasp. This is why, to my horror watching the early GOP debates, we hear promises of what government will do for us from both sides. This brings me to Rand Paul and, especially, his father. When those guys speak it almost always rings true in my ears. Not always, but very often it does. Trump was needling Rand, "...with your 1% approval rating..." But, Rand was the only one on that stage of 16 (or so) candidates who really made any sense to me.
What we need first, before any more unknown presidential candidates, is an intelligent, consistent, liberty-loving and presentable candidate for a lower office who wins and THEN runs for higher office, and eventually president.
As a campaign consultant, that is what I try to stress: Stick to the basic point, which is freedom.
But, as to your question, What's Wrong With the Libertarian Party?, well, I have one question and one solution:
Are YOU a member of the LP?
One solution is YOU, and everyone else reading this page, join, be active, and help the LP find its way, that way possibly being back to more honest and sane pro-liberty positions.
I was there early. Not quite at the founding, although I was trying to start a Libertarian party at about the same time, completely unknowing of the "real" Libertarian Party.
I also was one of the first to quit, storming out of our local group's meeting.
I have since re-joined. And re-quit. And re-joined.
I was terribly disappointed in Gary Johnson's not being consistently libertarian, but he was 'WAY ahead of whoever might have been in second place ... although I don't think any single candidate was. All the rest were so much worse, it was all a tie for second place.
Anyway, EVERYONE HERE: JOIN, and help us in the LP find the rational course. Thank you.
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