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Maybe Trump isn’t ‘lying’

Posted by $ nickursis 7 years, 3 months ago to Government
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There is just something not right about this. They tried the "he didn't win the vote", they tried to get the electoral college thing, they tried the "no one go to inauguration", the media publishes nothing but negative articles that are slanted in such a way as to protray him as a buffon, loon or liar. Now, they are trying to tell the congress and cabinet to declare him "unfit". It seems no matter what, they are going to pursue this until a standard issue political hack that is predictable and defeatable is put in place. I would say so far he is not the most conventional president, nor has he ever seemed completely run of the mill stable, but he had the answers that pursuaded enough people he was talking their talk, and he has done as much as he can do with a slow motion republican congress, to do the things he wants to do done. Yet, I can't help seeing this actually coming to pass, as the establishment of both parties rallies to remove him.
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  • Posted by edweaver 7 years, 3 months ago
    It's possible he is simply using what the progressives have been using for years. Distractions. Sift the medias attention to something unimportant so that important things, like reducing the size of government can be accomplished with less media spin. Maybe not, but possible.
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    • Posted by $ 7 years, 3 months ago
      If true, he is excellent at it. You wither have to believe his twitter mess is intentional, or he is really unstable...I am not sure unstable people hang on as long as he has.
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      • Posted by term2 7 years, 2 months ago
        I think Trump or his AG, should go after Hillary again so she doesnt get away with what she and the clinton foundation has done. The side benefit of this is to divert negative attention from the good things Trump is doing, and focus the negativity on how evil he is for going after Hillary (who cares really at this point what happens to Hillary)
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        • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago
          he seems very picky on his distractions, but he may be saving it for something important, like his SCOTUS nominee...
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          • Posted by $ jdg 7 years, 2 months ago
            At best, the confirmation of Trump's nominee will merely restore the balance the Court had before Scalia died.

            It's his second pick that may actually result in measurable progress.
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            • Posted by $ Seer 7 years, 2 months ago
              True about his second pick.

              But the confirmation of Gorsuch will do more than restore the balance; he is only about 50 and so will be on the court for awhile. Unless he, like Scalia, has an "accident" or some type of misfortune befall him.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 3 months ago
    The more these statist snowflakes complain about Trump the more convinced I am that he is on the right track.
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    • Posted by $ CBJ 7 years, 2 months ago
      Most of Trump's supporters and many of those on the fence apparently feel the same way, as Trump's popularity is slowly rising in the polls.
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    • Posted by $ allosaur 7 years, 2 months ago
      The screaming and yelling and accusations of Trump being a Hitler wannabe have only begun.
      And it is a good thing. Tee-hee.
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      • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 2 months ago
        From politico : President Donald Trump’s first seven days in office were historic, chaotic, often astonishing and sometimes unsettling. With a flurry of provocative executive orders, surreal events, unapologetic falsehoods and did-he-really-say-that tweets, Trump continued to obliterate political norms, serving notice that the gaze of history won’t change who he is. He made so much news and did so many unorthodox things that it was hard to keep track of everything that was changing in Washington. The question, though, is what did all that sound and fury signify?
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        • Posted by $ CBJ 7 years, 2 months ago
          Trump is attacking the statists on multiple fronts, driving them into cognitive dissonance and forcing them to divide their forces in response to his executive orders and other actions. If he had made only one or two major policy changes in his first week, they could have concentrated their sloganeering and media firepower on those changes. Trump is making it impossible for them to do so.
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          • Posted by Seer 7 years, 2 months ago
            They can only dig up or try to conjure trivialities. The upshot is the Leftist/Liberals are looking very bad in the eyes of the peoples of the world. I read the comments on RT---from people all over the world---and they're beginning to catch on.
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          • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago
            That may very well be, and down the road, if he achieves positive results, he may well break the mold as to who can run for President in the country. If he fails, then they will all gather round the funeral pyre, and then start putting the correct political uslessnesses they have back up for auction.
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        • Posted by $ allosaur 7 years, 2 months ago
          I was calling The Donald a bull in a china shop when he was but one of many candidates.
          The dino in me loves how he is big time ripping apart libtard cherished norms.
          Reminds me that yesterday a lady on Turner Classics said Godzilla and Rodan were big box office hits during the Fifties. Me dino yucking it up.
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          • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 2 months ago
            For some reason this image came to mind. You have to eat after all that trashing and tail smashing. These butterballs would do the trick.
            https://www.google.com/search?q=moa+b...
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            • Posted by $ allosaur 7 years, 2 months ago
              Paleontologists espouse birds are the spawn are two-legged theropod dinos like meeee-eeee.
              Lots of extinct big birds look like dinos. So do ostriches.
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              • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 2 months ago
                The moa bird 12 feet tall 500lbs they would be herded into a swamp then stuck in the mud they would then be harvested. Leg bones and skulls were uncovered by archeologists in the mud and usually up a hill nearby the cooking pits would be found with the rest of the bird bones. The name
                Moa (dinornis novaezelandiae) . Extinct in the last several hundred years. But check out this old cousin.https://youtu.be/hdWugHfNTik
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                • Posted by $ allosaur 7 years, 2 months ago
                  Watching the croc, I began to think to think of all the monster films in which the captured whatever always escapes to wreck havoc.
                  Only in real life can people subdue an escape attempt.
                  Besides King Kong, there was Gwangi, who was supposed to be an allosuar due to slightly larger arms and three hand claws opposed to the two T-Rex had. They make better allosaurs for films now. Gwangi's escape is follow my Ymir's (both Harry Hausen creations) in the link~
                  ://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A6tNf...
                  Look on the sidebar and see Gwangi also called a T-Rex, but I remember what I read about Gwangi a long time ago.
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                  • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 2 months ago
                    The valley of Gwangi .To get a sense of the kind of complexity we're talking about, consider a scene from The Valley of Gwangi (1969). Gwangi, the title character, is a dinosaur--an Allosaurus, to be precise (although Harryhausen admits he wasn't precise and freely mixed attributes of an Allosaurus with those of a Tyrannosaurus when designing the critter). And the valley where he lives is not some prehistoric habitat, but early-twentieth-century Mexico. A group of cowboys on horseback are riding in circles around the reptile, lassoing it in an attempt to subdue and capture it.
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                    • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago
                      "A group of cowboys on horseback are riding in circles around the reptile, lassoing it in an attempt to subdue and capture it. " Kinda sums up what is going on right now, maybe we should rename The Donald "Gwangi Man".
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  • Posted by $ Snezzy 7 years, 2 months ago
    Trump is following the mathematical model presented to Alice by the Mock Turtle:

    'Reeling and Writhing, of course, to begin with,' the Mock Turtle replied; 'and then the different branches of Arithmetic — Ambition, Distraction, Uglification, and Derision.'

    Distraction is the main tool. Thus far his enemies have not been able to keep up with what he's been doing. If they were to read his books, and to read Scott Adams's books, they would be better able to see the incoming gunfire. They still would not know which way to move to dodge it.
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    • Posted by BeenThere 7 years, 2 months ago
      "If they were to read his books, and to read Scott Adams's books,"

      Very few know there are books by and about him.
      Research and critical thinking are not in vogue.

      BT
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  • Posted by terrycan 7 years, 3 months ago
    Trump has the left so scared they are wetting the bed. He is not resetting the table. He is flipping the table over.
    Who is John Galt? He might be our President.
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  • Posted by $ CBJ 7 years, 3 months ago
    How about "strategic exaggeration" rather than "lying"? For example, the voter fraud investigation is likely to turn up many instances of non-citizens voting, given the lax voter registration procedures in many states. Even if it's not 3 million, the issue will remain on the front burner for some time, making it more difficult for the lefties to continue this practice in future elections.
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    • Posted by $ 7 years, 3 months ago
      My point exactly, and proved in the reference article, where they decry it at the same time they prove it is not unreal. Yet they will drive by the reality to head for the unreality they all need to exist....
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  • Posted by mccannon01 7 years, 2 months ago
    Coincidentally, yesterday I read an article on Yahoo that was about the mayor of Newark calling Trump a liar and a propagandist. It was 12 paragraphs long calling Trump a liar and propagandist in nearly each paragraph but didn't cite a single instance where Trump lied or used propaganda. The article itself was pure I-Hate-Trump propaganda. Any non-thinking individual would finish the article believing Trump was a liar and propagandist, but would be clueless as to why. This is the very type of media Trump loves to bash - and deservedly so! (edited a typo)
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  • Posted by richrobinson 7 years, 2 months ago
    This article is disgraceful. Why wasn't Obama declared unfit when it was proven he lied when he said you could keep your plan and keep your doctor? Why wasn't he declared unfit after we learned refugees were committing acts of terror and acts of violence around the world and he decided to increase the number of refugees the US would take in? Anti-Trump people are already talking about his "tendencies" as President. It's been 1 week. If the writer of this article wants to disagree with a policy then do so but to call the President unfit is disgraceful. I'm glad I saw this. Thank you Nickursis.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 7 years, 3 months ago
    Just another liberal media biased opinion piece masquerading as news.
    They are throwing all the rubbish at the wall and hoping something will stick. They tried it to a lesser extent with Reagan, although the media still had some more easily embarrassed people as news anchors in that era, so there was less shrill wailing.
    The liberals who voted against Trump will read this rubbish, but those who supported him will see it for the vomit that it is. The weak left-moderate republicans will read it, too, but they are buffoons who will support Trump anyway if their so-called "leadership" supports Trump. If Trump's hired guns can bribe the GOP "moderate leadership" with promises of power they will back Trump.
    This liberal urination is unworthy of the Gulch.
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  • Posted by hvance 7 years, 2 months ago
    If it's coming from the media there's a good chance that it is a lie. This is nothing but hot air for the next election. I wish that the republicans in congress would stiffen their backs and back trump. To not do this they do at their own peril in the next election.
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    • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago
      Do not forget, both parties are the same, operate the same, but are beholding to different special interests and lobbyists. Trump is a rogue, who cares not for any party, he just used the Republicans for his own ends. Makes him pretty smart, IMHO. I also think he will force them to comply, even Dumbocraps, as he explains, you will want something from me someday...
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      • Posted by hvance 7 years, 2 months ago
        Nickursis,
        You and I are on the same page in your analysis of Trump. He's a businessman which I think we have been needing for decades. Ne not a politician but a street fighter and is upsetting a lot of apple carts in DC. Only real problem I have with him is his position on tariffs and I think that is just hot air for negotiations.
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        • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago
          I think he is serious, but also plays it hard and fast, so starts in one place and ends in another. Unfortunately politicians only do that after careful consultation with their donors and patrons, and special interests, that all takes time, so they get left behind, and start screaming. I have a couple goats I want to rename "Liberal" and Libertard" to remind me..that do the same thing...
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 2 months ago
    If Trump were removed by the establishment, there will be a disruption in our "democracy", where half the country will want to split off from the other half. It could be a good thing so long as I can be in the half that is seeking more personal freedom.

    Of course, the leftists would become violent (as they have been since the last election) and try to prevent the split. It wont be pretty. I just finished reading the book "People's Republic", a novel depicting such a split. Very interesting scenario indeed.
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    • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago
      That problem is the own most of the coasts, where, for some reason, they congregate (maybe the big cities they love to nest in are all there), but any such split would not work well for the middle, unless we all band together to ship all the libertards to the east coast no matter what they want. That would not be a very Objectivist answer though...that would be a conundrum..
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      • Posted by term2 7 years, 2 months ago
        Definitely a difficult situation. California is a beautiful state, and does have the coast advantage. Its a lost cause, however. I live in Nevada, and we could make a deal to expand the port of Tijuana. Also, California sells a LOT to the rest of the country, and would need the red state markets access to survive. Remember, California doesnt make anything anymore except for produce, and they are in competition with mexico for even those products.

        There would be a definite period of adjustment, but there IS a limit to what us "deplorables" will tolerate from the liberals.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 7 years, 2 months ago
    The establishment political class (both Democrat and Republican) are terrified he will accomplish things that they've been promising and failing to deliver. Naturally they're going to do everything possible to thwart his every move, because his success will put an end to the fiction that no one that isn't a member of their club can possibly be worthy of a higher office in America.

    I worry for the President's safety, because as we've seen in the streets, when extremist liberals feel threatened, their ultimate haven is violence. If he manages to get past all of the bureaucratic roadblocks in accomplishing his goals, I expect to see assassination attempts happening.
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    • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago
      Yes. Good points, and very true. I think it is the speed he does it at that really messes them up. The Republicrats were saying a year or so for a replacement of ObamaCare, and he told them a week or two. If they do not come up and act on one, then they will have one laid on them. Rand Paul has already gotten that idea, and has one. The rest need time to talk to their patron, special interests, etc and get their instructions. He isn't waiting for them...
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  • Posted by Lysander 7 years, 2 months ago
    Other than his protectionism, I have not disagreed with a single action. He's terrorizing and terrifying the progressives. Apoplectic is the word of the day.
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    • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago
      His protectionism is not good, but I see it as a ploy to get some time to try to get the American manufacturing system back into running order after it has shifted overseas, as well as shipped all it's money offshore. The protectionism is a mechanism to force them to act, not sit around waiting for surveys and "experts".
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  • Posted by NealS 7 years, 2 months ago
    Interesting. According to the article, and I have heard it more than once, "Arab Americans in New Jersey celebrated after 9/11" came from Trump. One time I actually saw a brief video on a news program showing exactly that", right after 9/11. I can't verify if it was in Jersey or not, but it was definitely for real. I saw it only once, then it vanished, never to be seen again. I find this especially interesting since I can still remember how I felt when I saw it, how it made me sick to my stomach that any people could feel this way about murdering other innocent people.

    I also saw a video at the time Michael Brown was shot, taken by another black man from behind a road barrier. In the audio he asked another black what had just gone down and the man said, "That dumb n(word) just punched that cop and tried to take his gun and got himself shot". After that one time it also disappeared, never again to be seen. I wouldn't exactly believe either of these stories unless I saw them for myself.
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    • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago
      You would not be saying that the media gets "cleaned" of material that certain people may not want on it? One of the great things on the internet, it has cached copies in so many places....
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  • Posted by wmiranda 7 years, 2 months ago
    Right now CNN is seen in many countries of the world misaligning Trump. Locally, it's daily by MSM & some vindictive Repubs and Dems. They still can't pigeonhole him and that infuriates them more. One pattern has become evident. Trumps lures them in with one of his now classic statements, they go in an uproar chasing their tails with fake news, then he proves them wrong or events come to pass as he predicted.
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