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“To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.” - Thomas Jefferson

Posted by freedomforall 9 years, 4 months ago to Philosophy
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This tenet of liberty has been and is being violated by the federal and state governments ad nauseum. It must be stopped.


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  • Posted by Donald-Brian-Lehoux 9 years, 4 months ago
    The same could be said for gay marriage and a bunch more from the interfering federal government. Less government is best.
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  • Posted by chad 9 years, 4 months ago
    A new bureau was created just prior to the end of last year to prevent fake news by controlling what is said, by whom and in what market place in the name of preventing fake information getting out and influencing people. Millions of dollars are already allocated for it to pursue its goals. Can't remember what it was called besides the snide remark of a commentator calling it 'The Ministry of Truth'. Congress passed it and Barracula signed it and almost no one noticed it. The taxpayers are funding it compelling themselves to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas that they are not even aware of let along agree with.
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Half the country wants to be 'stronger together" like Hillary said, and take from the rest of the people whatever they can.
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 4 months ago
    Even though he had slaves and was a bit intellectually inconsistent, he sure nailed on the head this idea.

    I dont want to contribute to obamacare, social security, entitlement payments, wars in afghanistan and iraq, foreign aid payments to pakistan and many other countries, and the list goes on.....
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  • Posted by dekayz 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The simple answer to that question is that it becomes my business when I am forced to pay for it. That applies whether I am forced to contribute my earnings either to end the pregnancy or provide medical care to keep the pregnancy viable.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 9 years, 4 months ago
    Over the years I keep going back to Stefan Molyneoux's (sp?) video "The Story of Your Enslavement". This video, to me, makes it all crystal clear...
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Medical privacy is just a mirage. There really isn't such a thing anymore.
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  • Posted by basalyga1 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    What is the list that some have reported Trump requested regarding money given to Mexico by various tenets of our vast government?
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  • Posted by basalyga1 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It should not be. The Supreme Court made it so by imposing fake law and fake privacy rights so money can be made at the expense of vulnerable women, often black women.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 9 years, 4 months ago
    Jefferson also argued quite vociferously against welfare in his day. I believe that this quote came from a debate in which certain members of Congress were attempting to get a bill passed that would have provided funding for a religious group. Jefferson argued that any such would be a violation of the rights of the rest of Americans. If I am not mistaken, the bill failed and no like were proposed for another 50 years.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The question is whether or not it is part of a government's inherent mandate to protect life. Most governmental theorists argue that this is the first requirement of government and the second is to protect property. The question which arises in the debate is which of these is primary. Abortion-rights advocates argue that property rights are primary, while pro-life advocates argue that life is primary.
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  • Posted by jimjamesjames 9 years, 4 months ago
    My question to both pro-abortion and/or pro-lifers is:
    How is any woman's pregnancy any of my business, your business, or the government's business?
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  • Posted by RonC 9 years, 4 months ago
    Unless our President is coercing Mexico to pay for the Wall.
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  • Posted by Seer 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Looks like somebody doesn't like science here. Deducted a point. Wonder who is against science?
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  • Posted by Seer 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Couldn't agree with you more. And science is on our side. I know. I studied embryology in Vet School.
    How horrifyingly selfish are those women who "choose" to kill their unborn child. (Interesting how it takes two to create new life, but only one to destroy it, isn't it?)
    A woman does have a choice: she can "choose" to have sex; but when she "chooses" sex, she also "chooses" the possibility she will aid in the creation of new life.
    The killing of unborn children is a manifestation of a cultural death wish. It is the generations who follow you that perpetuate the human race, in whatever culture you live.
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  • Posted by Seer 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    To paraphrase Ayn Rand: "The difference between the potential of a zygote and the potential of a newborn is a matter of time".
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I still have a quibble about the start of a human being being a human being.
    Why am I suddenly thinking Being! Being! of a pinball machine with a lisp?
    We have no argument on your point about welfare.
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  • Posted by Seer 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You are wrong, CBJ. Stick to engineering or whatever.

    It is not the two independent cells, but the one cell that they form that constitutes a human being. The zygote. That single cell has a DNA structure created by the DNA structure of each of the two cells, that is unique in the history of mankind. No "human" has ever been born with that particular DNA, nor will any other "human" ever be born in the future.
    Kinda shoots "The Great Man Theory" in the foot, if you get my drift.
    cells
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  • Posted by $ CBJ 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    And you don't have to be pro-choice to figure out that two cells do not constitute a human being.

    I agree that no taxpayer should be forced to support Planned Parenthood or any other private group promoting or providing goods or services to the general public. It's a form of welfare.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 9 years, 4 months ago
    The "Planned Parenthood" horrific mass murder abortion mills immediately springs to old dino's mind as the worst case of being forced to pay for something abhorrent.
    You don't need to be religious to logically go figure that life begins at conception.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Federal government involvement in road construction is not necessary, nor is it a constitutional use of the peoples' scarce resources. It is a boondoggle supported by looters and corporate interests, just as taxes funding the railroads. The private sector can and does produce such infrastructure voluntarily and at much lower cost to the users of the infrastructure and to the people without coercion, or corruption of limited government function.
    Is the function of a road network a good thing? Yes. However, it is not a legitimate constitutional function of limited government and it would have been done by business interests if the federal government had remained true to its constitutional functions.
    If the US government had not given in to the military industrial complex after WW2 and funded a massive peacetime expansion of the military, would there have been an arms race with the USSR? No. Would the world have been a much safer place if government, banking, and defense industry propaganda had not created a boogie-man to fear in southeast Asia? Yes. If those trillions of dollars of the peoples' scarce resources remained in control of the people, what extraordinary products would we be using today that have not yet been invented?
    Actions have unintended consequences. Every supposedly beneficial unconstitutional government action taken has prevented a more beneficial result being completed in the private sector.
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