GRAHAM HANCOCK ITS ALL BULLSHIT Forbidden History

Posted by $ nickursis 7 years, 2 months ago to Science
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An interesting interview with someone who is not mainstream science, but if you read his material, it does have a good basis in facts and logic. Moreover, it is a good illustration of just how various institutions become "controllers" of society, and influence large segments of behavior. Sort of reminds me of a science version of Trump. Not everyone will agree or buy into it, but I find his arguments as valid as the mainstream "experts".
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  • Posted by dbhalling 7 years, 2 months ago
    This guy is a crank with religious leanings and certainly not an Objectivist. Here is a exert from one of his websites:

    "In The Divine Spark, bestselling author Graham Hancock brings us a groundbreaking collection of the latest thinking on consciousness and psychedelics."

    "“I don't believe that consciousness is generated by the brain. I believe that the brain is more of a receiver of consciousness.”
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    • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago
      Dale, please understand, I did not offer this as a definite statement of truth. I offered it as an alternate source of data on a variety of topics, some of which I am dubious of. I do agree with his point that in way too many facets of life, there are cabals that have declared themselves as the "only" keepers of fact and truth, such as the climate change crowd, the EPA, historians, and physicists. Many of those disciplines abhor "different" ideas, that do not bow down to the "settled" science, and in particular, in physics, many of the last 30 years of discoveries would not have been possible, if everyone "believed". I hesitate to go off and call someone a "crank" simply because he is different. I do agree, he is certainly, completely "different". But I have listened to two of his books, and his case is rather good for a different path of history from the one currently "settled".
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    • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 2 months ago
      Dale,
      The understanding of consciousness has alluded scientists . The concept of awareness is the difficult one to understand. If you criticize some one who is offering an opinion on an unresolved dilemma please offer yours. with that criteria is not anyone who suggests an idea a crank.
      11/8/2016 Science alert by FIONA MACDONALD Scientists have struggled for millennia to understand human consciousness - the awareness of one's existence. Despite advances in neuroscience, we still don't really know where it comes from, and how it arises.But researchers think they might have finally figured out its physical origins, after pinpointing a network of three specific regions in the brain that appear to be crucial to consciousness.
      It's a pretty huge deal for our understanding of what it means to be human, and it could also help researchers find new treatments for patients in vegetative states.
      "For the first time, we have found a connection between the brainstem region involved in arousal and regions involved in awareness, two prerequisites for consciousness," said lead researcher Michael Fox from the Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Centre at Harvard Medical School.
      "A lot of pieces of evidence all came together to point to this network playing a role in human consciousness."
      Consciousness is generally thought of as being comprised of two critical components - arousal and awareness.
      Researchers had already shown that arousal is likely regulated by the brainstem - the portion of the brain that links up with the spinal cord - seeing as it regulates when we sleep and wake, and our heart rate and breathing.
      Awareness has been more elusive. Researchers have long thought that it resides somewhere in the cortex - the outer layer of the brain - but no one has been able to pinpoint where.
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      • Posted by dbhalling 7 years, 2 months ago
        Jumping to mysticism is not going to help. The most important step would be to define consciousness clearly.
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        • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 2 months ago
          Einstein struggles as would anyone trying to describe what transpires in their consciousness.
          "It seems to me that what you call full consciousness is a limit case which can never be fully accomplished. This seems to me connected with the fact called the narrowness of consciousness (Enge des Bewusstseins)"

          Einstein basically practiced something called image streaming. The idea is that there are a bunch of images that are constantly streaming through our brains, no matter what work we are pre-occupied with. This image streaming can become a meditative practice if you either control the formation of these images or just follow them with single minded focus. Something of what Einstein practiced was wired into image streaming. This means that a lot of his discovered were actually just creative thought processes perceived intuitively.

          he also had some mystical viewpoints

          "A human being is part of the whole called by us universe, a part limited in time and space. We experience ourselves, our thoughts and feelings as something separate from the rest. A kind of optical delusion of consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from the prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty. The true value of a human being is determined by the measure and the sense in which they have obtained liberation from the self. We shall require a substantially new manner of thinking if humanity is to survive". (Albert Einstein, 1954)
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    • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 2 months ago
      Yes there are statements and beliefs that can not be denied as contrary to many peoples opinions.
      Most of what I enjoy from this author and lecturer are the questions that evolve from the exploration of ancient monoliths and his exploration of an advanced ancient civilization
      long forgotten.
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    • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 7 years, 2 months ago
      Correct...Consciousness is not generated by the brain but the "Mind" did...if it turns out quantum physically to be an energy field outside the head.

      Makes sense, The brain has no way to view itself or it's behavior but something outside the brain, (the mind) could.
      Maybe that's all the eye at the top of the pyramid is...a pagan representation of the Mind.
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  • Posted by amhunt 7 years, 2 months ago
    It appears that you tube has shut down access "...due to multiple third-party notifications of copyright infringement."
    Now I am even more curious.
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  • Posted by dbhalling 7 years, 2 months ago
    Hancock gave a TEDx lecture titled "The War on Consciousness", in which he described his use of ayahuasca, an amazonian brew containing an hallucinogenic and illegal compound DMT, and argued that adults should be allowed to responsibly use it for self-improvement and spiritual growth.
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    • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 2 months ago
      DMT occurs naturally in the human body as well as derived from plants.
      Strassman conducted clinical studies of DMT inside the human body during the 1990s and hypothesized that it originated inside the brain, coming from a small gland about the size of a grain of rice. The Pineal gland, otherwise known by some as ‘the third eye’, is responsible for regulating our sense of time, and is found in practically every vertebrate species.

      But despite DMT being naturally produced in the body, it is classified as a schedule 1 drug, which by law makes it the equivalent of magic mushrooms, peyote cactus , and opiates, like heroin.

      There is still so much that is unknown about Dimethyltryptamine - the drug produced in our brain that the mind is yet to understand.
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      • Posted by dbhalling 7 years, 2 months ago
        I am not supporting the war on drugs.
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        • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 2 months ago
          Hancock doesn't promote the use of ayahuasca
          For recreational use, he says that their is no recreational aspect. Unless you enjoy throwing up and defacating on your self for hours. He does claim it assisted him with his own addiction. This treatment is what he is a proponent of. We all know that many people struggle with addictions and the treatments are ineffective for many.
          I am open to ideas that will help a person who struggles with self-discipline to succeed.
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          • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago
            Dob, I would have to differ with you, particularly in this video, he is espousing it, along with the guy he is talking to, and he is making a case for using it in a specific way, to achieve a specific result. The Shaman tradition and mystic clans of the Native Americans and Central American natives, does seem to indicate there may be some alternate forms of consciousness. It is funny that Steven Greer has claimed that connecting to UFOs, and also their existence is on an alternate plane and dimension, that you have to reach through a change in conscious state. That would connect to the Shaman tradition of speaking with other entities in their altered states. Those are just data points, but I am always open to new data.Even if it might be considered "weird".
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            • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 2 months ago
              Hi Nickursis,
              I have heard him say he doesn't recommend for recreation. Maybe he changed his mind?
              My interest in Hancock is his information on mans ancient past .Studies have been conducted on vibrational frequencies that do change people's consciousness. The ancients apparently were aware of this I first heard about the hypogeum in Malta ,the acustics were around 110hz.

              Megalithic Preference for 110 Hz.
              'An effectively random selection of megalithic chambered sites in England and Ireland were tested for their natural (primary) resonant frequencies, with only the great chambered passage-mound of Newgrange in Ireland being pre-selected due to the need for special permission. The findings surprised the ICRL researchers: all the investigated chambers were found to have a natural primary resonance frequency in the 95-120 Hertz band, with most at 110-112 Hz – this despite variations in sizes and shapes of the chambers. There was even evidence of “retro-fitting”, as if internal features within the chambers had been placed to “tune” the natural resonance to the required frequency. The great chamber of Newgrange resonates effectively at 110 Hz, and the 19m (62-foot) passage behaves like a wind instrument, with sound waves generated within the chamber filling it, their amplitude decreasing towards the entrance'. (2)

              The 110 Hz frequency is in the baritone range – the second lowest level of the male singing voice. It is therefore possible to speculate that chanting male voices could have been used in these supposed tombs for the silent dead. Current experiments are showing that the specific frequency range around 110 Hz tends to stimulate a certain electrical brain rhythm associated with particular trance-like states.
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              • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago
                Also, he did say that, and he did specify you did need to have trained, experienced people with you. Of course I also noted that they did some other chit chat that leaned into "how cool it is, but don't do this at home". There are enough issues with drugs today without adding ones with more powerful, and unexplored consequences into the hands of kiddies and snowflakes, they are weird enough. Peyote gets enough press form people in the SW.
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              • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago
                Interesting, also not modern electricity runs at 1/2 that rate (nearly) at 60Hz, and European runs at exactly 1/2 the rate. So the 2nd harmonic would be 110 Hz in Europe. and 120 in the US. May mean nothing. There is so much hidden in historical sites, and that is also why I like him. He keeps pushing the fact that no one can state for a fact what and why certain sites were built. Gobeki Teklu comes to mind for that....
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  • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 2 months ago
    Hi nickursis,
    I just listened to this Tuesday night. I enjoyed it , as you know Graham doesn't claim to have all the answers, in fact he is always asking the questions. Because his questions and research
    shake up the status quo he is often derided. With a little inquiry and searching, I find the so called experts on ancient histories have a protectionist agenda. I will paste a great video on the cover up of New Zealand's past .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z6PlYiQSTs
    I am also curious as to weather you have read Heaven's Mirror: Quest for the Lost Civilization
    by Graham Hancock
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    • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago
      No, I have not, yet. I will see if Audible has it yet. I thought this one seemed pretty good, in that he seemed to illustrate a lot of the same things we see everywhere, where the established "experts" will inflict their view, and dismiss any other facts or evidence that does not fit. A lot of the comments seem really negative,and are worded just like all the other negative things you see from people, name calling, labels, and little fact or substance. Yet I have not seen him ever say he is the right one, just seems to want to propose an alternative view and backs it up with data. In fact, I just saw an article that is still claiming the data used by the Younger Dryas comet crowd is "misinterpreted" and "false" but just added up to sort of "if you look at it upside down". Not being an expert in rare earths or elements I can't say, but I am siding with the comet folks, their data seemed pretty solid. As well as fitting in with the geologic evidence.
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      • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 2 months ago
        I can hear him now , "with this information it begs the question". The comet theory during the Younger Dryas period along with the evidence supporting it just makes sense.
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  • Posted by coaldigger 7 years, 2 months ago
    While I was about it, I checked out a couple more of Graham's videos and then googled ayahuasca to find out how to get one's mind into that shape. I see you can buy this stuff on e-bay but I'm going to pass. Puking is not something that I am willing to do to find "truth". I only remember puking a couple time in my 75 years and I did not enjoy it.
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/27243556...
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    • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago
      I don't think I would trust Ebay sellers for that type of material, given that I think it falls under the SchedA (or 1?) drug category. esides, I would consult a real shaman from a native tribe before tinkering with it, even Graham said he was with others, and that it should be done with trained individuals.Although where such "training" occurs is probably a little loose as well...
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