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Being Ignored Can Be a Blessing, by Robert Gore

Posted by straightlinelogic 8 years, 5 months ago to Government
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The war lobby ceaselessly conjures threats to US interests and conspiracies to dominate the world. All which must be met with US intervention—overt, covert, or both. How do you conjure a threat when a big part of the world decides to ignore you, who at best sees the US as irrelevant, at worst, a dangerous nuisance? One of life’s joys, all too rare, is telling self-important, pompous people that nobody cares what they do or say, or even if they live or die. It’s been a long time coming, but the rest of the world is starting to tell the US to keep its opinions and interventions to itself, and that’s a good thing for all concerned.

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  • Posted by mia767ca 8 years, 5 months ago
    posted to facebook...another excellent observation...late on this...been setting up workamper positions for the rest of 2017 and all of 2018 at the Quartzsite RV Big Tent Show talking to recruiters from all over the country....still on track to pass thru on way back here in April...
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  • Posted by Seer 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, but I am right, and you are wrong. All I can tell you is that I was there.
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  • Posted by $ CBJ 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Please show me where I said "The Crimean people would NEVER vote to join Russia!!" Also please show me where Wikipedia's "facts" are wrong. What I said was that the 97% vote in favor of secession was bogus. And it was.
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  • Posted by $ CBJ 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    My "facts" are from Wikipedia, and nothing in your statement above disputes any of them. My ethnicity and place of residence are irrelevant to what I posted. So are Obama's views and actions. If you have any facts that discredit what I said in the post you replied to, I would be interested in hearing them.
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  • Posted by Seer 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'll look it up. I find it difficult to believe, as all former Republics and satellites were allowed, or if not allowed, did indeed choose referendums of one sort or another. What we've been seeing lately I have referred to as "buyer's remorse". What they thought they wanted they are finding out isn't what it was all cracked up to be.

    Remember Putin or the RF-FM saying that Kosovo would set a dangerous precedent? That was certainly prescient.
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  • Posted by Seer 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You are absolutely and flat out wrong. Either you have been fed "fake facts" or you want to believe that no peoples of the former Soviet Union would vote to join the Russian Federation. Or you are a Ukrainian. Or from there.

    Yanukovich was the only man who could have held the Ukraine together. And then there was the coup.

    You understand that Ovomit's hand was in this whole damn mess from the beginning; starting with the Maidan protests in the fall of 2013.

    Also understand that his reason for doing so was once since Vladimir Putin was in play, Ovomit's imposition of a world Communist government was coming under fire. So his solution: Get world opinion to go against Russia. Or worse.
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  • Posted by Seer 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Did the Russian Federation try to protest the re-unification of Germany? Never heard that. Do you have a link?
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  • Posted by Seer 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You seem to be stuck on "The Crimean people would NEVER vote to join Russia!!" and then choose your "facts" accordingly.

    I assure you they did. Forget the "fake facts".
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  • Posted by Seer 8 years, 5 months ago
    Terrific essay, Robert. You and I are in agreement on a lot of things, apparently. I could add some, but I won't; you pretty much said it all.
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  • Posted by Seer 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hmmm. Interesting that an American institution would propagate "real facts". It is true, the Crimean people wanted to be part of a "great" country---the Russian Federation---and not a rinky-dink little country like the Ukraine.
    But it wasn't illegal. The constitution of the Crimean region of the Ukraine--or oblast or krai or whatever they call it--was repealed in 2014, before the referendum on joining Russia ever took place.
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  • Posted by chad 8 years, 5 months ago
    Being ignored is also a blessing for individuals, when the government ignores us and does not try to control us we are freer.
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  • Posted by Abaco 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I recently watched a documentary about JFK's presidency. I have always had some appreciation for JFK. Perhaps it's that my own vision of a world at peace matches his. Anyway - in that documentary you could obviously piece together the connection between his policies being a threat to the system and his premature death.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Just as Russia has to consider the advance of NATO after the fall of the USSR despite assurances from the Bush administration that there would be no such advancement, in exchange for Russia's agreement not to protest the reunification of Germany. There are no angels in international politics.
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  • Posted by $ CBJ 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It's not America's problem, but it's certainly an event that America has to take into consideration in its future dealings with Russia.
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  • Posted by $ CBJ 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Another poll cited in that same article showed only 23% support for Crimea joining Russia. Regardless, no poll showed anywhere near the 97% claimed by the victors in an "election" held under Russian military occupation. Your article stated, "In a referendum, Crimean citizens voted overwhelmingly to leave Ukraine and join Russia." That was hardly the whole story.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "[the federal budget deficit] will continue to increase the next few years."
    You have said current levels of debt plus new borrowing spell an inevitable fiscal and monetary crisis. So if we increase our rate of borrowing, we're moving away from putting our fiscal house in order. You say it would be an eight-year endeavor, but you see us moving in the wrong direction.
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 8 years, 5 months ago
    I really would like it if we could just concentrate on
    making ourselves strong, cutting the size of gov-
    ernment within our own country, and maybe making
    our military stronger without stretching it all over the
    world.
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