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Why California should try to secede - and how it would fail gloriously

Posted by $ blarman 8 years, 3 months ago to Humor
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Liberals are always talking with their emotions. Here's why I think they should be given the ability to secede - just so it can fail so spectacularly that we can clean it out and start over. It might also cow some of the other Democratic states.


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  • Posted by Dobrien 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    BTW, the moral code of keeping your word......
    That is true in your personal interactions but the liberals like your self , don't hold that same standard with your President or candidates.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The point is many people in the rural community would like to see the focus of the govt on guarding our country ,enabling capitalism to flourish and stay out of social issues where the main intent is to divide the people while they loot!
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "The idea of where a person goes to the bathroom is of concern only for the user ,and to change the norms of a society for the benefit of .0004 % of the population is asinine. "
    I never actually encounter any bigotry issues or bathroom norms issues (I can't believe that's even a thing) if I stop in Eau Claire on a trip from Madison to Minneapolis. It turns out the moral code of keeping your word, telling the truth, and minding your own business are not just rural things.

    I recently drove to the South, and I didn't run into any nonsense. It clearly not the same from my home where the 0.0004% live. But it's not so different that it's problem living side-by-side and driving through.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    " The farmer knows the benefit he or she receives from treating their livestock well."
    Animal welfare interests do not coincide perfectly with human interests.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "I do have to wonder what makes it about living in more rural areas"
    My thought is there are hundreds of little decisions like do we need rules about firing guns or playing loud music. If you live in the city, it's obvious we need some rules about it, and in the countryside it's obvious we don't. But the fed gov't has gotten so powerful, by taking money and giving it back to local gov'ts, orgs, and individuals that do what the fed gov't wants, that now we have to have national debates on things that should be local or personal decisions. Rural people have different interests urban people, so we end up with an asinine yelling match. The yelling match gets attention for commentators and politicians. Even if they know it's stupid, they don't have the luxury of taking the high road. The person who mails out fundraising letters warning rural people about the perils of urban people in charge or vice versa will win.

    The correct (IMHO of course) answer is for the fed govt to be limited in scope, and make these issues local.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The experience I have with the garden harvest and fishing are similar. I get a satisfaction(happiness) of results from intended actions with an objective in mind.
    With those efforts, the quality is as good as it gets.
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  • Posted by Enyway 8 years, 3 months ago
    So, what do we call it? Califexit? It would certainly "fex" a lot of things in this country.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "People are not divided by states anymore but by urban/rural".
    No, people are divided by rational thought and behavior VS irrational altruism.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Simple living, is simply living in reality. Living in a rural area requires a greater dependence on ones self and abilities to create the value to trade for value. The line of mans rights and the purported yet non- existence of animal rights is known to be a fallacy. The farmer knows the benefit he or she receives from treating their livestock well. They also know that left unaffected the land will reclaim their homes and livelihood. They take no course of action to racially discriminate against any person, yet they are called bigots. The idea of where a person goes to the bathroom is of concern only for the user ,and to change the norms of a society for the benefit of .0004 % of the population is asinine. They have a moral code of a mans word is his bond, they don't take too kindly to lies. They are much less concerned about fitting in with the crowd.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Perhaps, but I also have observed that many who are given the opportunity to grow their own food tend to realize what they have heretofore taken for granted. I think there is something profoundly philosophical in gardening.
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  • Posted by Animal 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think you may have the cause/effect reversed. I think the tendency precedes the lifestyle choice, not the other way around.

    Rural living tends to attract the self-reliant, folks who want to live quietly and be left alone. Urban living tends to attract people with the opposite tendencies.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Probably not, but I think it would be painfully illustrative to see California try it.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 8 years, 3 months ago
    Never happen.

    I have had the opportunity to do some work in what some call "The State of Jefferson" and, let me tell you, it is really, really nice.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You are referring to the by county red/blue maps, yes? The ones that show that the vast majority of counties in the US vote Republican and the urban centers tend to vote Democrat.

    I do have to wonder what makes it about living in more rural areas that tends to move one to the right while living in highly-concentrated urban areas move strongly left. I have always wondered whether or not there are simple truths to be found in simple living.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 8 years, 3 months ago
    I think they should separate urban areas from rural areas. People are not divided by states anymore but by urban/rural. Every time I try to think of the mechanics of how it would work, though, I arrive back at something that looks like way the framers of the US Constitution intended to limit federal govt power.
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