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How Many Bricklayers Did Galt Invite to the Gulch?

Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 8 months ago to Culture
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Galt went around inviting famous artists, noted business leaders to the Guch, but once there, who built their houses? Who paved their streets, dug their sewer lines?

This isn't a class warfare argument; the building of a house, for example, not only takes a skilled architect, but also skilled craftsmen and industrious laborers.

If the criterion for admission is a belief in "trading value for value", surely Galt should and would have invited "ordinary" workers to the Gulch as well as luminaries like Wyatt and Danagger?

Such people exist lower down on the ladder; people who believe in trading value for value, but lack the creative ability to invent a new motor or miraculous metal. People who didn't inherit an already successful railroad or copper mines, but would be able to get a day's worth of coal or copper dug in a day's worth of hours for a day's worth of pay. Maybe they lack the ambition to go through the headache of running a company when they get more satisfaction from digging coal out of the ground. Maybe they lack the self discipline necessary to see their visions to reality, but are still able and still believe in trading value for value.

What Utopians always underestimate in their rhetoric (no disparagement of Ms Rand intended) is the example America set before them. People's abilities and worth are not necessarily evidenced by their position in life. All the creative brilliance in the world will not get a brick wall built. A brick wall built without knowledge and skill won't stand, but the most creative and brilliantly designed wall will never exist without someone to lay it up brick by brick. Someone whose creative skill may be shrouded by prejudice toward his position in life.

There may not be a place in the Gulch for someone like me. But that would be Galt's loss.


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  • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That wasn't obvious to me at all. They would get their own area...and not want to deal with "tenants" who might be moochers or looters. Why would YOU do that?
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  • Posted by Stereorealist 11 years, 8 months ago
    Obviously, Galt and Midas Mulligan bought an abandoned town. Probably let the remaining tenants stay. That's what I would do.
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  • Posted by eilinel 11 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Life's been busy. I do lurk occasionally, just haven't had much that I felt a burning need to stay.
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    Posted by $ kathywiso 11 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Galt enacted a plan for saving Capitalism. He also built a motor that would change the world. I believe he could figure out how to build a brick wall with his mental skills that would stand forever and with his own bare hands if he wanted to, and that is the point. Building brick walls may not be something he prefers to do :) I must have read Atlas Shrugged differently. I thought it was excellent in showing what happens when you remove the government regulations that stifle the mind, any mind. If you are free to make your happiness real in your own life, you can do anything you choose (sewer pipes, brick walls, developing a revolutionary new motor) Your life is YOURS !!
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  • Posted by flanap 11 years, 8 months ago
    I suggest defining "Utopian" first. I am interested in how you are using this term.
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  • Posted by $ rockymountainpirate 11 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    How about instead of how the truck driver got into the gulch picking it up after the end and those in the gulch coming back out and finding the truck drivers, bricklayers, the people of ability that didn't make it to the gulch. Many are probably in those enclaves that people shrugged to. Focus on some of the gulchers finding those people and spreading the philosophy of value for value. Ragnar had contacts in Europe. The whole world had to be rebuilt.
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  • Posted by Non_mooching_artist 11 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes. There were people recruited that were the "operators", the laymen if you will. It was a necessity. And a bricklayer is most certainly not a person to be looked down upon. Everyone willing to work, to not sit on their collective bums, willing to trade value for value, is OF value.
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  • Posted by iroseland 11 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think it would be an excellent idea.. Heck, if people can write fan-fick about Star Trek I don't see any reason it couldn't be done with the Atlas Shrugged world.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 11 years, 8 months ago
    I agree with most of the other comments. This thread makes think a similar book focusing on the rank and file would be interesting.

    Atlas Shrugged did this a little with Cherryl, James Taggart's wife. She was store clerk, who admired industry (i.e. getting things done). She has a crisis when she realizes he has a sick need for her to look up to him as a man above her class. Her thinking of him as a human being and peer drives him crazy. He needs his ego stroked constantly. In despair she turns to people doling out charity. They don't give a damn b/c a) she's not financially poor and b) her circumstances don't lend themselves to letting charitable people sanctimoniously pat themselves on the back for being morally superior. Dealing with two people on the same night who want to use someone who's hurting to stroke their own ego is more than she can bear.

    She was a would-be working class gulch resident that the story dug into.
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  • Posted by $ winterwind 11 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I don't get "destroy" from anyone's actions. Would you cite what makes you think that's what's happening?
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  • Posted by $ rockymountainpirate 11 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The craftsman can look at the raw materials and see the finished product in his mind. That skilled craftsman can pass on his knowledge by directing and training the less skilled.

    I hadn't thought about Akston brain draining the copper mine, but now that you mention it, it makes perfect sense.
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  • Posted by iroseland 11 years, 8 months ago
    Remember the truck driver. Dagney asked him what he does. He replied that he was a truck driver but wanted to be more than that. The book follows Galt and the industrialists because that would be easier to write the story around. But, you bet there was a bunch more going on that is not mentioned because it was not part of the core of the story. Just look at where Dagny met Hugh Akston. At the diner in Colorado, but the copper mine that was going out of business. I have often had the impression that his presence was the reason the mine was going under, there was no one left with any brains to operate it. So, there he was every day serving lunch and wisdom. As for the "trades" the difference between a a skilled craftsman and a general laborer is that the craftsman knows that he is using his hands to make the world in the image that his brain has determined. The brains plus skill means that they can do amazing work and faster than the unskilled folks who are not thinking about what they are doing.
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    Posted by $ rockymountainpirate 11 years, 8 months ago
    The brakeman from the train was in the Gulch. He was apprenticing to Halley when he was there and working in the world in some capacity that met his basic needs when he wasn't. There were skilled people in the Gulch, not just the big industrialist.
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  • Posted by $ ajp 11 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Galt recruited Howard Roark who designed and built everything in the Gulch! ;)

    .....who knows - maybe Dominique decorated everything too.

    (that's the way it happened in my fantasy, at any rate)
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  • Posted by gblaze47 11 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I don't believe they were trying to destroy anything, What Galt was doing was removing the people who held up the world and would let the world implode by itself. If anything he just let nature take its course.
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  • Posted by j_IR1776wg 11 years, 8 months ago
    Galt wanted to deprive the USA of the men of Reason. Their particular talents and achievements were secondary. Bricklayers would logically have been included. Jeff Allan would have been there.
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