Math is a beautiful thing. But Barbie thinks math is hard.

Fitting! LOL

Are you kidding? If you consider THAT graph scientific evidence, then a dog droppings on the sidewalk can be analyzed to predict how world events are going to occur. It's not even up to the level of hockey stick voodoo science.

Do the math. I'm not going to do your homework for you. But here is how you set it up - lets say that graph is 5 inches wide (it really won't matter) and that, as was stated, the graph is 650,000 years in length. If you divide 650,000 by the size of the image resolution (the image size is 743x369) of 743 times 5 (the length of the graph), that will tell you how many years are represented by each pixel along that graph. So lets write it out - 650,000/743x5= number of years represented by each pixel of that graph. (Hint- remember to multiply the 743x5 before dividing 650,000 by it)

Ok, now that you've gotten that the first thing you will see is that it's a size smaller than you can display on you monitor, less than one pixel. Multiplying it by my 500 year challenge will show than a perpendicular line MIGHT be seen on the graph that will be around 20 pixels wide out of the 3,715 pixels along that graph. But all of mankinds actual scientific measurement of weather will only be 5 pixels wide, and you want to claim that a 5 pixel, dust grain (the size of the industrial revolution to today) is sufficient data to make the claims you do? Or even NASA?

It's popular gobbledygook, not science.
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Climate upheavals, wow, that sounds serious. Might I suggest you lay off the weather channel for a while? Just skip it for a few days at a time, then a few more. I'm sure that in a month or so those old dark clouds of world destruction will pass right into a peaceful sunset.

Where is you "proof?"

Can you enlighten us with a reference backing up your "proof?"

Oh yeah! The Muslim thing. I forgot about that. So, NASA must therefore be wrong... my bad! BTW, are you "spewing" fact or opinion. Any links to back up your allegations?

I remember those days and that prediction. It was no where near the extreme cooling that you describe. Rather, it was part of the long term warming and cooling cycles that happen naturally over the centuries. Then however the unnatural warming trend we are experiencing now started to kick in and the prediction changed to a coming global warming which is happening today and which is causing the climate upheavals we now hear about on a weekly basis.

Boy oh Boy is THAT right. We have dumbed down the school system to the point where kids cannot think any more and if you were to ask them "reason" through a problem, they would vacantly stare at you. We have a generation that's unfit for any higher job than being a cashier behind a cash register at McDonalds. A place where there are photos next to the name on the register, where sizes are visual - and even THAT was to tough. They were forced to make all the soda's one size, one price.

I have sat in our local library with students I tutor and spent days with them trying to make them understand basic logic and reasoning. I have always felt that if a student could understand mathematics, they would be able to reason, BUT it seems that these kids have had ANY ability to look at two expressions and determine if they were comparable or not beaten out of them by facebook. We always reach a impasse on "what does x=?" Me "X has no value, none is needed since we are not seeking a solution" him, "do you mean that since it has no value, we are talking about money?" me, "No, we aren't seeking a solution so "x" is just a variable that does not equal any number" (this is after a day explaining variables)", "Today we are trying to determine if one expression will equal another".

I then try giving "x" a value of 1 and go through it again. (yes I know that's not good workmanship, but I'll try about anything at this point). two hours later we call it a night and go outside where we see a rose bush and I start all over counting buds on a branch and tell him that x equals one branch of buds now I work my way through the expression with one rose bush making him write notes. Rolling over to another bush I do the same thing as he writes notes. Then I take his notebook and next to each set I write the expression and show it to him, asking, "are they the same"? "No sir they aren't the same. Bush 1 is real red and bush 2 is more pink."

I give him a ride home and talk to his parents and suggest a career in government.

To find a natural event that you can point and said with definite certainty that "this" caused a change in the weather in an eruption of a volcano.

Here's some data I posted a few days ago, which was never refuted;

In 1991 Mt Pinatubo erupted with what is commonly recognized as the second most powerful eruption in the 1900's. The ejecta was so massive that the total amount cannot be accurately estimated, but land around the volcano was buried as much as 18-20 feet fro twenty miles. There were 15-30 million tons of sulfur dioxide gas ejected as the plume rose to 31Km (21 miles). Over 90% of the material released from the volcano was ejected during the 9hr eruption of June 15th.

The result of this eruption and huge ejection of "Greenhouse Gases" over such a short period resulted in "unprecedented growth in the Antarctica Ozone hole. It grew to a size never seen before.

Now, all this seems to be ligning up with everything the Eco-ologists are telling us will happen as "Greenhouse Gases" grow due to man caused global warming. BUT, that's not what happened.

The cloud over the earth reduced global temperatures. In 1992 and 1993, the average temperature in the Northern Hemisphere was reduced 0.5 to 0.6°C and the entire planet was cooled 0.4 to 0.5°C. The maximum reduction in global temperature occurred in August 1992 with a reduction of 0.73°C. The eruption is believed to have influenced such events as 1993 floods along the Mississippi river and the drought in the Sahel region of Africa. The United States experienced its third coldest and third wettest summer in 77 years during 1992.

Overall, the cooling effects of the Mount Pinatubo eruption were greater than those of the El Niño that was taking place at the time or of the greenhouse gas warming of the planet. Remarkable sunrises and sunsets were visible around the globe in the years following the Mount Pinatubo eruption.

So as you can see, the second biggest eruption to occur in a couple hundred years only succeeded in cooling the world temp by around .5 degrees and caused some extra "wet" weather the following year.

Checks with me.

fountianhead - The graph is odd in that it shows a blip of increase every 100,000 years. Where are we on that line? Why we are RIGHT on the next 100,000 year blip.

Also since the "scale is so compressed, you would never see a increased blip for a period of even 500 years on a scale of 650,000 years in a couple inches and since nobody was there to make accurate readings, projections are based of gases collected from polar ice analysis.

I have considered your "proof" and found it "lame".
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When I and Al Gore were kids, all the environmental wackos were screaming that we were about to have a HUGE deep freeze of a new ice age by 2000. They said everything would be froze solid down to that very cool spot called Miami. Everything south of Miami would reach a thawing point sometime during the day, but since the enlarged ice caps might force a shifting in the earths crust (perhaps bringing the magnetic and polar north poles back into alignment), they were not certain that Havana Cuba might be under snow. All if we didn't stop using leaded gas and generate electric power with Nuclear Power by 1980.

I can feel the freeze right now. I guess I'd better start the fireplace here on the 40th parallel.

Very good paper, imnsho, (other than a few minor typos you might want to correct.

Absolutely a cult-type of phenomenon! And notice that, pretty much where ANY current 'differences of opinion' have been occurring, the 'discussion' has taken on cult-like characteristics, too...

On average, Critical Thinking is Dead.

BTW, isn't NASA the organization that our Dear Leader tasked with Muslim outreach? That fits their charter about as well as the propaganda they're spewing (e.g. the link you provided) all in the name of income redistribution from the developed countries to the underdeveloped countries.

That's why it's called weather, not fixed. It changes weather you want it to change or not. :^)

I'm looking at scientific data that states very plainly that there has been no warming whatsoever in 30 years. You, on the other hand, are looking at data that has been "fiddled with".

Nero fiddled while Rome burned... what are you fiddling with while the world's climate collapses? http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

Al "The Sex Poodle" Gore just can't catch a break.

Such phenomena as this is why all the libtard Chicken Littles are now calling "global warming" "climate change." This way, they can attach "man-made" to any unusual thing the weather does, that enabling radicals to shut down the coal industry, stop drilling and divert tax revenue to their useless feel-good projects.
Our more than equal elite betters (as I sarcastically like to call them) will never admit that there has always been climate change. And there always will be.

Given the monumental size of any effort to attempt even a modest result, I think I'm safe in thinking no further resources were expended down this path.

This must be (31,000 scientists, 9,000 of them climatologists) the 3% who disagree!!!

Their answer to any slight change in the weather is global warming..oops no warming for the last 17 years so now climate change. My answer is its weather!

Your right there. It seems to run in the “family”; Kerry, Obama, Biden, Reid et al

Post the frost warnings, everybody. Every time Al Gore opens his big mouth, we're in for a cold wave, not a heat wave.

When he was in college, Al Gore took a class from Science Professor Revelle. Revelle is the father of Climate Change/Global Warming. Revelle later recanted his theory saying that there was not enough evidence to support it. Gore, however, went on to make a career of it, even though he only got a "D" in the class. He continues to tout the Global Warming mantra even though he knows it's a hoax. Recently, 31,000 scientists, 9,000 of them climatologists, signed a petition declaring Global Warming to be a hoax.